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Stealth MP account and use of "creative" documents
 

I am non-EU citizen (Turkey). I will use creative documents for ID - utility bill - etc. Get an actual address for my creative ID name on UKPOSTBOX. Create a personal transferwise account for this creative ID. Link the tw to ebay uk account.

Correct me if I'm mistaken but I believe the issue currently with ebay is that they do detailed checks on rather if the person is real - so I guess that prevents people mostly from creating stealth mp accounts? Do they do additional address matching etc? Because I have access to real person creative documents. So where can I have a problem in this method?

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'real person creative documents'?
Sounds an awful lot like identity theft.

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Well the service provider I get the documents probably get them this way I'm afraid. The thing is this seller can provide such illegal documents as I've mentioned or custom creative documents which are not real. I do not know and have no information to decide which one to request.

Correct me if that's wrong but I believe I have seen many times that custom documents do not pass and are checked on databases so you need real information to send ebay. If that is the case people that want to create accounts like me or sellers like in this forum will need documents from relatives or illegal. Although it has possible legal consequences - it seems that is the only way to do this stealth account setup. That's of course only relevant if the fact that ebay checks databases or uses some service to see if the IDs are actually legit.

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Help please.

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Onana06 are you selling risky items?

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I sell non-VeRO home improvement tools. Price range between 50-150 USD. I guess that is not risky?

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If theyre in any way branded - yes they are high risk.

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from what i am hearing they check the documents when you send them in so if they are ⊗⊗⊗⊗ the docs wont pass and your account is toast. the only overcoming of this is two ways you could use real info or the second way would be to use illegal identity of someone else to sell. Another possibility would be could you create an account in an off the wall country that does not yet participate in MP. I am not sure how one could do this but there are many smart people here who could probably figure it out.

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Do they also match the address with the ID or can we use an address that the person in the ID is not registered with on country databases.

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Yes they do check the ID. It’s an robotic system that checks the ID. So the Security numbers should be correct and also the adress and name which you provided eBay before.

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How do they have access to country databases? Should the address match the name or it being real is enough? How can they spot a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID even in minor countries?

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Probably spot based on quality of the document and also the algorithm for ID numbers that are easily accessible for countries

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So decent quality creative documents have a chance to pass verification even if they are not real?

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You're talking about Germany ?

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Depends on your country, imo. Checking documents in small Eastern European countries is impossible (expect the ID number). We don't have such databases and agencies like in the US and UK.

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I understand. But in UK it is much harder is that it? I'm from Turkey and I believe Ebay uses Payoneer here. How hard is it to stealth Payoneer?

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A few posts about Payoneer lately - quite a few ppl seem to be using it...but name mismatch to be avoided.

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In Germany they use the SCHUFA - Credit Score to check if you are real. If your info doesn’t match with the SCHUFA info then they want an ID. The ID has to match the algorithm. In Germany the we have 3 lines of digits on the back side of the ID. The first line is our DOB backwards and the second line the expiration date backwards. The last digit of each line is a security number which you can calculate easily by multiplying each digit with 7,3 and 1, then sum it up and the last digit of that sum up is the security number..

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Yes, when registering on eBay.de there is a message that data will be matched with Schufa. You can pass it with using non German, non Austrian and non Switzerland addresses.

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Do countries like UK use Payoneer? If not I believe creating an account in a country that uses it is easier for stealth? Can I easily pass verification with decent creative documents and matching names?

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in germany there is still the problem that all residents have an official registration address so that a database could be checked regardless of SCHUFA

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can i register in ebay.de using another ip add , home address, phone etc from another european country without problem ?

thanks