| |  | | | muzzie | 08-20-2021 02:02 AM | IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Hello,
Yesterday 4 of my accounts, actually, all that had MP sales, received a message. Around 15 minutes between messages to every account: Thank you for being a valued member of eBay's Managed Payments program.
In order to complete our verification process, we are asking you to provide a photo ID(such as a passport or driver's license or state ID). Your ID will be used to validate the identity information you provided previously. We also request that you upload a copy of a recent bank statement so we can verify your bank details.
Until you provide us with this documentation, your payouts are on hold.
If your eBay account information does not match your ID exactly, we also ask that you update any information that differs from your ID before you proceed with the upload.
Please ensure the ID document you provide includes your: Full legal name and the ID number Date of birth
Additionally, the document you provide needs to: Be current (not expired) Be in color Contain the full document with no part of the document obscured or cropped Contain the complete MRZ code (if providing a passport) Contain Front and Back of the ID document (if providing driver's license/State ID) Be an official government-issued ID document
Also, please upload a bank statement that: Includes the name and address of the account owner or business entity Includes the bank's name Lists the bank account number (at least the last 4 digits) Is less than 12 months old (if providing a dated document)
This account has ID uploaded a month ago, and bank verified with microdeps at the same time. Why do they want ID again? Same as PayPal that only asks ID again if they want to ban? |
| theking27 | 08-20-2021 04:13 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Guys, just move on. waste of time, eBay wants kick off sellers from the site, thats all. They are blocking virtual banks as well, am sure. They are asking IBAN (which means they should accept international bank account numbers as well, even if it is not a local bank..) if they dont accept, it is against European Union laws. eBay is an a--hole we know. maybe they will reverse their decision later (or not). But this company should clarify in their polices these, and even not let sellers register for managed payments with virtual banks (that are not on their list).
frozen funds, free items to the buyer. stealth book now worth nothing, it needs to be updated, casuse stealth means you should never use your real details...now you can use only real information, otherwise you will sck hard. This is not stealth anymore. the only chance registering acc in those countries ,where Adyen is not accepted. |
| 13obby | 08-20-2021 04:52 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1166982)
Hello,
Yesterday 4 of my accounts, actually, all that had MP sales, received a message. Around 15 minutes between messages to every account: Thank you for being a valued member of eBay's Managed Payments program.
In order to complete our verification process, we are asking you to provide a photo ID(such as a passport or driver's license or state ID). Your ID will be used to validate the identity information you provided previously. We also request that you upload a copy of a recent bank statement so we can verify your bank details.
Until you provide us with this documentation, your payouts are on hold.
If your eBay account information does not match your ID exactly, we also ask that you update any information that differs from your ID before you proceed with the upload.
Please ensure the ID document you provide includes your: Full legal name and the ID number Date of birth
Additionally, the document you provide needs to: Be current (not expired) Be in color Contain the full document with no part of the document obscured or cropped Contain the complete MRZ code (if providing a passport) Contain Front and Back of the ID document (if providing driver's license/State ID) Be an official government-issued ID document
Also, please upload a bank statement that: Includes the name and address of the account owner or business entity Includes the bank's name Lists the bank account number (at least the last 4 digits) Is less than 12 months old (if providing a dated document)
This account has ID uploaded a month ago, and bank verified with microdeps at the same time. Why do they want ID again? Same as PayPal that only asks ID again if they want to ban? |
Are the accounts real or stealth? |
| JamesNorth101 | 08-20-2021 05:18 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1166982)
Hello,
Yesterday 4 of my accounts, actually, all that had MP sales, received a message. Around 15 minutes between messages to every account: Thank you for being a valued member of eBay's Managed Payments program.
In order to complete our verification process, we are asking you to provide a photo ID(such as a passport or driver's license or state ID). Your ID will be used to validate the identity information you provided previously. We also request that you upload a copy of a recent bank statement so we can verify your bank details.
Until you provide us with this documentation, your payouts are on hold.
If your eBay account information does not match your ID exactly, we also ask that you update any information that differs from your ID before you proceed with the upload.
Please ensure the ID document you provide includes your: Full legal name and the ID number Date of birth
Additionally, the document you provide needs to: Be current (not expired) Be in color Contain the full document with no part of the document obscured or cropped Contain the complete MRZ code (if providing a passport) Contain Front and Back of the ID document (if providing driver's license/State ID) Be an official government-issued ID document
Also, please upload a bank statement that: Includes the name and address of the account owner or business entity Includes the bank's name Lists the bank account number (at least the last 4 digits) Is less than 12 months old (if providing a dated document)
This account has ID uploaded a month ago, and bank verified with microdeps at the same time. Why do they want ID again? Same as PayPal that only asks ID again if they want to ban? | Which bank are you using? |
| pisports | 08-20-2021 05:57 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed payoneer or worldfirst will cause this. |
| shadowface | 08-20-2021 06:03 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Yeap i got the same message for my two accounts. Real info,match details with Wise bank.
Yestarday at night i have upload the documents waiting for reply.
The same case, i did the microdeposit a months a go, getting funds without issues. |
| theking27 | 08-20-2021 06:15 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Wise will also get this? nice, i have still two accounts with Wise. its a joke, becaue i have chatted with an agent , who told me eBay accepts Wise. They are ass-es. They will restrict all accounts for verficiation purposes at some stage, and we have much more weaker chance to pass eBay verification (even if you have real details) .Managed payments=Stealth died in Adyen countries. One of my accounts got this message and i have changed immediately online bank to a real local.(Raiffeisen Bank) i uploaded them passport and bank statement(real bank stetement!) i received respponse very fast, i was surprised. they told me i need to send another bank statement because they dont accept Raiffeisen Bank statement hahah. i think indians are checking these docs, who has not clue what documents can be accepted or not. i hate it. How can we deal with this Ass-ho company? lol |
| shadowface | 08-20-2021 06:36 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed I'm trying to explain to some sellers of ebay accounts that the mismatch names is an issue, they reply no is not, we don't have any return clients....
Over 40-50 accounts we are running and i can see that the mismatch is an issue. |
| pisports | 08-20-2021 08:09 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by theking27
(Post 1167018)
Wise will also get this? nice, i have still two accounts with Wise. its a joke, becaue i have chatted with an agent , who told me eBay accepts Wise. They are ass-es. They will restrict all accounts for verficiation purposes at some stage, and we have much more weaker chance to pass eBay verification (even if you have real details) .Managed payments=Stealth died in Adyen countries. One of my accounts got this message and i have changed immediately online bank to a real local.(Raiffeisen Bank) i uploaded them passport and bank statement(real bank stetement!) i received respponse very fast, i was surprised. they told me i need to send another bank statement because they dont accept Raiffeisen Bank statement hahah. i think indians are checking these docs, who has not clue what documents can be accepted or not. i hate it. How can we deal with this Ass-ho company? lol | From what I heard wise only have their own banking account operation in the UK.their UK accounts are managed by themselve which means the name they reg your account in is real as your name.Others like EU or USA whatever accounts are all virtuals which means the actual account name is not you.this is a problem to MP.they consider you as a mis-matching name with those. |
| muzzie | 08-20-2021 08:41 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Bank is a not so known LUX bank, not Wise, name matches.
Bank verified with deps a month ago.
Docs are stealth, but were accepted many times already by eBay. And it seems it does not make any difference, real doc accs also receive the same alert. |
| theking27 | 08-20-2021 09:01 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed yes, it doesnt matter if its stealth or not, if they want they will simply look at your sold products and activities on your account, and will suspend you from this point. its a lottery wheel. |
| emilio913 | 08-20-2021 10:35 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by theking27
(Post 1166990)
the only chance registering acc in those countries ,where Adyen is not accepted. | Is payoneer really easier to work with? |
| shadowface | 08-20-2021 07:20 PM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by sureness
(Post 1167095)
1000% Yes. They have the most lenient verification system, easier to pass than paypal. | Thanks for the info.
Russian resident account, selling in the uk or us, and linked with payoner, it should be good? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-20-2021 11:16 PM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by GassanAbdoula
(Post 1167100)
Thanks for the info.
Russian resident account, selling in the uk or us, and linked with payoner, it should be good? | this system works , I would not necessarily use it in the UK though.
ebay.com for items shipped from USA is the best option. payoneer stealth is easy to do , lots of ebay accounts can be created and there is no VAT on ebay.com so that such shops could sell just like their USA counterparts but without that Adyen bull**** , without SSN , no tax forms etc.
this is paradise , even if it is for the US only |
| kecapcarbon2019 | 08-21-2021 04:09 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1167127)
this system works , I would not necessarily use it in the UK though.
ebay.com for items shipped from USA is the best option. payoneer stealth is easy to do , lots of ebay accounts can be created and there is no VAT on ebay.com so that such shops could sell just like their USA counterparts but without that Adyen bull**** , without SSN , no tax forms etc.
this is paradise , even if it is for the US only | How many rusian accounts you have? |
| Christianm | 08-21-2021 04:39 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1166982)
Hello,
Yesterday 4 of my accounts, actually, all that had MP sales, received a message. Around 15 minutes between messages to every account: Thank you for being a valued member of eBay's Managed Payments program.
In order to complete our verification process, we are asking you to provide a photo ID(such as a passport or driver's license or state ID). Your ID will be used to validate the identity information you provided previously. We also request that you upload a copy of a recent bank statement so we can verify your bank details.
Until you provide us with this documentation, your payouts are on hold.
If your eBay account information does not match your ID exactly, we also ask that you update any information that differs from your ID before you proceed with the upload.
Please ensure the ID document you provide includes your: Full legal name and the ID number Date of birth
Additionally, the document you provide needs to: Be current (not expired) Be in color Contain the full document with no part of the document obscured or cropped Contain the complete MRZ code (if providing a passport) Contain Front and Back of the ID document (if providing driver's license/State ID) Be an official government-issued ID document
Also, please upload a bank statement that: Includes the name and address of the account owner or business entity Includes the bank's name Lists the bank account number (at least the last 4 digits) Is less than 12 months old (if providing a dated document)
This account has ID uploaded a month ago, and bank verified with microdeps at the same time. Why do they want ID again? Same as PayPal that only asks ID again if they want to ban? | Its your bank |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 04:40 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by Christianm
(Post 1167137)
Its your bank | Bank was accepted a month ago. Now it is not? Why are you so sure about bank? |
| shadowface | 08-21-2021 04:50 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1167127)
this system works , I would not necessarily use it in the UK though.
ebay.com for items shipped from USA is the best option. payoneer stealth is easy to do , lots of ebay accounts can be created and there is no VAT on ebay.com so that such shops could sell just like their USA counterparts but without that Adyen bull**** , without SSN , no tax forms etc.
this is paradise , even if it is for the US only | Thank you so much.
That's amazing info!
For example if i would like to sell in the UK,
register account in ebay co uk, with Russian address? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 05:48 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167138)
Bank was accepted a month ago. Now it is not? Why are you so sure about bank? | my take on this is that you got this message because you use a foreign IBAN and virtual bank account.
Luxembourg bank is probably citibank? even if it is not it must still be a virtual IBAN? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 05:52 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by GassanAbdoula
(Post 1167142)
Thank you so much.
That's amazing info!
For example if i would like to sell in the UK,
register account in ebay co uk, with Russian address? | essentially you need to register with russian address on ebay.com and start selling there to develop the account. russian accounts are very good but they should be primarily run on ebay.com and a switch to local sites should only take place once the accounts are established
in my case I use them to sell on ebay.com with shipping from USA , this way russian accounts works best. for now with paypal but I have already found a way how to get them to MP |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 05:56 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167032)
Bank is a not so known LUX bank, not Wise, name matches.
Bank verified with deps a month ago.
Docs are stealth, but were accepted many times already by eBay. And it seems it does not make any difference, real doc accs also receive the same alert. | real docs and matching names receive this kind of restriction as well
as far as I know it is based entirely on the bank and I have 2 options why this is happening
a) this is a virtual bank account which ebay decided to block completely
b) ebay are cracking down on sellers who use foreign bank accounts as according to Adyen's TO's only local bank accounts are accepted |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 06:02 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1167153)
real docs and matching names receive this kind of restriction as well
as far as I know it is based entirely on the bank and I have 2 options why this is happening
a) this is a virtual bank account which ebay decided to block completely
b) ebay are cracking down on sellers who use foreign bank accounts as according to Adyen's TO's only local bank accounts are accepted | How come i should follow Ayden TCs if they are not on EBay site, so technically have no effect and ebay does not say "you must accept Ayden TCs in order to register on our platform" |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 06:23 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167155)
How come i should follow Ayden TCs if they are not on EBay site, so technically have no effect and ebay does not say "you must accept Ayden TCs in order to register on our platform" | They conceal information on purpose. In this case it looks like it is continuation of the virtual account ban
as far as I understand your LUX bank accounts are virtual accounts as well? most likely citibank because citibank have been issuing virtual accounts in LUX in large quantities and citibank is already banned in some other countries on ebay
Wise is a problem as well because it is the abused account provider #1 , there are loads of stealth accounts there |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 06:32 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed in general I think it is necessary to use local banks only and stay away from any virtual bank accounts. It is likely that the issue here is that stealth accounts usually use virtual bank accounts that are easily assigned in quantities to almost anyone and those are frequently abused so that they are eventually blacklisted for use on ebay |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 06:41 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by GassanAbdoula
(Post 1167014)
Yeap i got the same message for my two accounts. Real info,match details with Wise bank.
Yestarday at night i have upload the documents waiting for reply.
The same case, i did the microdeposit a months a go, getting funds without issues. | from what I know from a number of other sellers this type of messages comes from MP USA for various MP countries and is not based on whether you use real details , matching names , turnover made etc. but it is a mass message based solely on the type of bank account
in all cases I know of so far it was a virtual bank account issued by companies like Payoneer , Worldfirst and some others. I assume that this here is continuation of the virtual account ban which will eventually blacklist all virtual bank accounts
that is why I recommend to stay away from such accounts and replace them with local banks to avoid such issues in the future. I also recommend not to use foreign IBAN's as it is very well possible that ebay will be cracking down on EU sellers whose ebay is registered in one country and IBAN is based in another one
for now as I see they sent this message for the GBP accounts of Wise. Now would be the time to replace EUR accounts of Wise through local banks as I think this will soon come as well |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 07:23 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1167169)
They conceal information on purpose. In this case it looks like it is continuation of the virtual account ban
as far as I understand your LUX bank accounts are virtual accounts as well? most likely citibank because citibank have been issuing virtual accounts in LUX in large quantities and citibank is already banned in some other countries on ebay
Wise is a problem as well because it is the abused account provider #1 , there are loads of stealth accounts there | It is not Citibank, but what do you mean by virtual bank accounts... still all have name on them, separate ibans... so whats the difference... no bank license? |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 07:24 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1167172)
from what I know from a number of other sellers this type of messages comes from MP USA for various MP countries and is not based on whether you use real details , matching names , turnover made etc. but it is a mass message based solely on the type of bank account
in all cases I know of so far it was a virtual bank account issued by companies like Payoneer , Worldfirst and some others. I assume that this here is continuation of the virtual account ban which will eventually blacklist all virtual bank accounts
that is why I recommend to stay away from such accounts and replace them with local banks to avoid such issues in the future. I also recommend not to use foreign IBAN's as it is very well possible that ebay will be cracking down on EU sellers whose ebay is registered in one country and IBAN is based in another one
for now as I see they sent this message for the GBP accounts of Wise. Now would be the time to replace EUR accounts of Wise through local banks as I think this will soon come as well | Had that with the real banks as well. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 07:29 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167177)
Had that with the real banks as well. | what are the names of these banks? virtual bank accounts are accounts issued in large quantities to non residents by financial companies who have agreements with banks like it was with the previous EUR accounts of Wise from the Deutsche Handelsbank which provided millions of accounts that were then distributed by Wise among their customers
I think you may be confusing "real" banks with accounts provided by real banks for mass distribution to international customers. the difference is that such accounts are easily identified by individual bank codes , in the UK it would be sort codes |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 07:34 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Local ones, like Swedbank. Applied for MP with real id, made up iban created in iban generator, provided creative statement and got banned. They cant really know of oban exists or not. |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 07:35 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167179)
Local ones, like Swedbank. Applied for MP with real id, made up iban created in iban generator, provided creative statement and got banned. They cant really know of oban exists or not. | but here you apparently mean a suspension during MP registration rather than the email you described in this thread? |
| muzzie | 08-21-2021 07:40 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1167180)
but here you apparently mean a suspension during MP registration rather than the email you described in this thread? | Any difference between kicked out during registration or during doing MP? Or acceptance to register is created to steal money? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-21-2021 07:41 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167182)
Any difference between kicked out during registration or during doing MP? Or acceptance to register is created to steal money? | the difference is that the criteria are not the same , the above email is likely based on bank only
the suspension during MP is most likely random |
| quest | 08-27-2021 04:45 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167179)
Local ones, like Swedbank. Applied for MP with real id, made up iban created in iban generator, provided creative statement and got banned. They cant really know of oban exists or not. | Have one account with all real info linked to Swedbank, verified through microdeposits. So far it works for 1 month without issues.
Another account was with creative ID/Info and IBAN from swedbank, verified through uploading bank statement - this account was banned within a week after verification. |
| muzzie | 08-27-2021 04:48 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Mine stealth accs worked fine for 1 month, and then got restriction. I wonder how long do they check these docs... |
| kecapcarbon2019 | 08-27-2021 06:02 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed They will ban all creative documents |
| muzzie | 08-27-2021 06:04 AM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by kecapcarbon2019
(Post 1167976)
They will ban all creative documents | Seems they ban real ones as well if they dint like bank used |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-27-2021 12:32 PM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1167959)
Mine stealth accs worked fine for 1 month, and then got restriction. I wonder how long do they check these docs... | the accounts are likely toast even with real docs. this is the new policy of ebay where lots of things are forbidden but they do not disclose what in order to get people suspended easier
for that reason it is better to use local bank accounts at local banks avoiding any kind of accounts based abroad and any virtual accounts |
| muzzie | 08-27-2021 12:37 PM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1168012)
the accounts are likely toast even with real docs. this is the new policy of ebay where lots of things are forbidden but they do not disclose what in order to get people suspended easier
for that reason it is better to use local bank accounts at local banks avoiding any kind of accounts based abroad and any virtual accounts | Does ebay make payouts? Or ANY suspension reason = money seized? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 08-27-2021 01:05 PM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by muzzie
(Post 1168014)
Does ebay make payouts? Or ANY suspension reason = money seized? | they do payouts for everyone whose identity was verified even if the account was suspended. |
| kecapcarbon2019 | 08-27-2021 01:11 PM | Re: IMPORTANT NOTICE from eBay Managed Payments - Your Action is Needed Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1168020)
they do payouts for everyone whose identity was verified even if the account was suspended. | Agreed with you, money will be kept forever | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:51 AM. | |
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