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Default PayPal can robocall you with advertising from July

[...] The terms state that you consent to allow PayPal and any of its affiliates to contact you via autodialed or prerecorded calls and text messages at any phone number they have on record. So as well as billing and debt collection calls, we can all expect to receive regular calls and text messages containing advertising. You know, those calls and texts everybody hates with a passion.

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So, these are the kind of changes after the split, i wonder what ebay will pull out.
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Ah wonderful I cannot wait... I will be getting phone calls ever 5 sodding minuites from each stealth account in rotation.
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This is the top news on google when you search "paypal".
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Surely, Surely, Surely will deter people from using paypal, im talking about predominately casual buyers using paypal here and there...
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I hope they have an opt out setting
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Default Re: PayPal can robocall you with advertising from July

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I hope they have an opt out setting
Not at the moment - from what that article states.

But im sure they will, or else everyone will start "opting in" to give paypal their dormant phone numbers.
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I don't think you guys are realizing just how bad these new terms really are.

This article explains it in detail.

Here's the first thing that's going to happen, straight from their new Privacy Policy page:
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You consent to receive autodialed or prerecorded calls and text messages from PayPal at any telephone number that you have provided us or that we have otherwise obtained.
And the cases where PayPal may robocall or robotext you:

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  1. notify you regarding your account
  2. troubleshoot problems with your account
  3. resolve a dispute
  4. collect a debt
  5. poll your opinions through surveys or questionnaires
  6. contact you with offers and promotions
  7. as otherwise necessary to service your account or enforce this User Agreement, our policies, applicable law, or any other agreement we may have with you
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PayPal then states that users consent to receive SMS or text messages if they have provided a mobile telephone number, and that it may share phone numbers with affiliates or service providers.
That's right: PayPal can sell your phone number to other companies, and they can robocall/robotext you too.

In addition to all that, standard telephone and text charges may apply.

It's unclear at this point in time if PayPal will provide opt-out options, and whether the new terms apply to all regions or only the US.

All of this will take effect on July 1st, when PayPal and eBay become separate companies.

Once again, I suggest reading this article which goes in more detail about this.

PayPal: accept robocalls and automated texts, or close your account - gHacks Tech News
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I don't think you guys are realizing just how bad these new terms really are.
I think we do, you have just reiterated everything everyone else has said :S
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hehe, someone else will get the robocop call on most of my accounts....
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hehe, someone else will get the robocop call on most of my accounts....
Damn are you going to irritate them. A good prank idea though lol
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"will only apply to its US customers"

US PayPal users face marketing robot cold calls - BBC News
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aaaaah... we UK users should celebrate, we are so lucky!
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PayPal User Agreement: Users can opt-out of robocalls and autotexts | BGR

A PayPal spokesperson provided the following statement to BGR earlier today: “Our policy is to honor customers’ requests to decline to receive auto-dialed or prerecorded calls.”

* Seems they're backing down a little..
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Default Re: PayPal can robocall you with advertising from July

I though we would be OK in UK as we have Oftel and other governing bodies that don't allow that kind of business ethics.

Big shout to the Oftel crew and the UK stiff upper lip bods for not having that kind of behaviour X
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UK Regulations are certainly tough. Though sometimes too extreme. Some telephone providers in the UK provide free services to block nuisance calls, most allow for you to report them. Just comes to show nobody in the UK will really tolerate this sort of behaviour.
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Default Re: PayPal can robocall you with advertising from July

Just read the news this morning and it seems that the general public are not very pleased.
Most likely they will either change it to TEXT harassment or they will require a person to phone them to opt out, so that they will at least get that one phonecall off you.

If the changes are only for US, then I'm a happy bunny. Unfortunately I'm sure they will come up with some sort of ****eroo for UK folks.
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Default Re: PayPal can robocall you with advertising from July

I dont understand, maybe greed has got to them. If your generating billions in revenue, why risk losing your customers with annoying phone calls :S :S :S
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I dont understand, maybe greed has got to them. If your generating billions in revenue, why risk losing your customers with annoying phone calls :S :S :S
The billions in revenue comes from LEGIT customers. Stealth doesn't even count for 0.01% of the whole operation, I'm sure.
Probably a way to weed out "shady" accounts, have more control over the data and make the company as foolproof as possible and legit as possible, if they want to become something "more" in the future.
If they want to operate in different markets they need to make adjustments, to follow the financial regulations in different markets etc.

It's just something that they will do because it'll benefit them down the road. I doubt they are doing this to catch every dirty little stealther out there.
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. I doubt they are doing this to catch every dirty little stealther out there.
I know I am a bit of a stinker but that's a bit harsh man lol

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Default Re: PayPal can robocall you with advertising from July

Your right in a way, the stealth community does make up less than 0.007% (yes, that's how small we are) of the ebay/paypal community. That is very insignificant.
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PayPal responds to Internet fury over its new terms of service:

"Our policy is to back-peddle like a mofo until this storm blows over. Afterwards, we can go back to treating our customers like crap."
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