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rogueseller 08-29-2007 08:57 AM

New suspension rules?
 
I logged into my five day old account today, and learned I've been suspended for abusing ebay. Everything was fine, and I bought items in the 2-10 dollar range until I had enough feedback for BIN, then listed about 7 items yesterday. I just received the abusing eBay suspension today. I've successfully made new accounts before using the info on the forum, but the last three or four accounts have been getting suspended once I start selling. Anyone know why?

spike1 08-29-2007 09:10 AM

what kind of items were you listing?

rogueseller 08-29-2007 09:29 AM

I dropship custom printed items, nothing big, no knockoff brand names or anything. Last night I listed some tshirts and lighters.

aspkin 08-29-2007 10:07 AM

I have a feeling there will be more and more suspended users pretty soon.

spike1 08-29-2007 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueseller (Post 8535)
I dropship custom printed items, nothing big, no knockoff brand names or anything. Last night I listed some tshirts and lighters.

chris hanson put up a list of items that ebay redflags. zippo and dunhill lighters is on that list. that might have done it.

rapunzel_01 08-29-2007 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike1 (Post 8553)
chris hanson put up a list of items that ebay redflags. zippo and dunhill lighters is on that list. that might have done it.

I agree....

rapunzel_01 08-29-2007 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modee (Post 8536)
Look, "buying" feedback has NEVER been anything we have recommended here. If you continue to do that, you will continue to be suspended.

It just looks suspicious. No buyer is buying it, and neither is EBAY.

if you want to sell, sell. If you want to buy, buy. DON'T buy a bunch a cheap crap just to earn feedback.

The one thing that does appear to be true is that lately waiting at least 30 days before you start selling ANYthing is the safest route.

the questions is though, "did OP follow the known rules to get a new account i.e. ip address change, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address, simon visa, etc..?" if not then they are going to get banned over and over.

JackNoMore 08-29-2007 02:44 PM

I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I "buy feedback" is so my items don't sell for fricken $1.25, I want the buy it now option. Once I have enough for that, I just sell (unless there's something I truly want).

Chris Hanson 08-29-2007 03:39 PM

So Modee are you back selling now?

starfish 08-29-2007 03:50 PM

The name of the game is to be cool! If you move too fast and act like you know your way around ebay if it is a new account you will be suspended. Buy but do not sell anything for 30days. Give yourself that personal suspension from selling on ebay for 30 days. Stay away from designer stuff. If you cannot do this then you will be frustrated. Also when you visit this forum please clear your cookies before login on to ebay for goodness sake! I know some people forget. Use firefox. However I think that you do get redflag if you use firefox when you're on ebay. It can lower your account score.

DogFacedBoy 08-29-2007 05:22 PM

Do you have to wait thirty days before buying? I can handle the selling part, but it would seem to me to buy or at least bid on some items in that 30 days.
Wouldn't starting an account and then waiting 30 days to use it raise some sort of red flag? It would seem perfectly normal to me for someone to look for something on ebay, see it and want to buy it, register and bid or buy it. Maybe wait a while to buy again and after a month try to sell some stuff from around the house.

Also, is it true that a cookie from here can be spotted by ebay? I have to admit there is a lot that I don't know, but that seems like a stretch, but I could be completely wrong.

rogueseller 08-29-2007 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack (Post 8569)
I can't speak for anyone else, but the reason I "buy feedback" is so my items don't sell for fricken $1.25, I want the buy it now option. Once I have enough for that, I just sell (unless there's something I truly want).

Ditto! That's the only reason I ever "buy" feedback, I don't want to have to wait weeks until I turn a profit. I buy the minimum it takes to get BIN.

I think it really is the thirty day rule that got me, I wasn't aware of it before.

I'm buying my roomie's account that he's had since 2003, that oughta work.

And the lighter thing. Ebay only red flags the item if you use the word "Zippo" or "Dunhill" and those aren't what I sell. They look like Zippo, but I never use or even think the word while I write my ad or title. I've never had problems with them in the past.

I think it was the thirty day rule,

Chris Hanson 08-29-2007 09:38 PM

You can sell before the 30 days. i examined plenty of sellers on EBay who somehow buys 8 cheap penny feedbacks and now is selling 15 $100-$200 items with a 15 day period.. Weird ain't it..

Ballsack 08-30-2007 12:17 AM

I bought and sold penny auctions to get to 10. No problem here. For the record I had to go way over 10 transactions because idiots simply would not reciprocate feedback.

ebay-sucks 08-30-2007 12:55 AM

The red flag would be buying the same thing over and over for cheap being new.
Buy something different for your 10 items.

I want to share with you guys something.

I spoke to an seller on ebay when I was on vacation, hanging out at the pool for several days his kids and my kids played together and we were talking, he said ebay suspened him for selling handbags, told him they were ⊗⊗⊗⊗.
He told me he sold thousands per month and had them dropshipped and when they nailed him it took a ton of his money right out of his pocket.
He got scared and called a number he found and someone really answered...
He was told by the employee I have 2000 John Smiths in the system, which one are you? He hung up and realized he could start all over again with the info the employee gave him.
His last email he sent me he told me he is selling again and they have done nothing to him for selling the exact same things.
He thinks he was making to much money and his 5k feedback red flagged him along with some of his competitors bidding on his items and leaving neggys.
that is why one of the above tells us to have a backup, now I understand.

frustrated 08-30-2007 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modee (Post 8536)
Look, "buying" feedback has NEVER been anything we have recommended here. If you continue to do that, you will continue to be suspended.

It just looks suspicious. No buyer is buying it, and neither is EBAY.

if you want to sell, sell. If you want to buy, buy. DON'T buy a bunch a cheap crap just to earn feedback.

The one thing that does appear to be true is that lately waiting at least 30 days before you start selling ANYthing is the safest route.

Some people like to buy cheap crap LOL I do.

whome 08-30-2007 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebay-sucks (Post 8650)
The red flag would be buying the same thing over and over for cheap being new.
Buy something different for your 10 items.

I want to share with you guys something.

I spoke to an seller on ebay when I was on vacation, hanging out at the pool for several days his kids and my kids played together and we were talking, he said ebay suspened him for selling handbags, told him they were ⊗⊗⊗⊗.
He told me he sold thousands per month and had them dropshipped and when they nailed him it took a ton of his money right out of his pocket.
He got scared and called a number he found and someone really answered...
He was told by the employee I have 2000 John Smiths in the system, which one are you? He hung up and realized he could start all over again with the info the employee gave him.
His last email he sent me he told me he is selling again and they have done nothing to him for selling the exact same things.
He thinks he was making to much money and his 5k feedback red flagged him along with some of his competitors bidding on his items and leaving neggys.
that is why one of the above tells us to have a backup, now I understand.

So is the lesson to rename yourself "John Smith" when creating a new account?

tyandlayne 08-30-2007 07:43 AM

I have been selling clothes on ebay and trust me I have made alot of money in the past for each item 50.00 - 100 each anyway I have found out that people are selling knock of Brands which I cannot believe , my stuff is all the REAL thing...

DogFacedBoy 08-30-2007 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyandlayne (Post 8711)
I have been selling clothes on ebay and trust me I have made alot of money in the past for each item 50.00 - 100 each anyway I have found out that people are selling knock of Brands which I cannot believe , my stuff is all the REAL thing...

I think that EB will kick you off just for selling stuff that "could" be knockoffs. I was hoarding a bunch of designer clothes to put up and now am sitting on a crap of inventory...luckily for me I started buying only stuff that I could use, not so much if I got kicked off, but in case it didn't sell

Chris Hanson 08-30-2007 10:18 AM

Thats why i only drop, so I don't get stuck with inventory

DogFacedBoy 08-30-2007 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 8719)
Thats why i only drop, so I don't get stuck with inventory

I'm strictly small time, but would like to escalate things (given what I have gone through lately I might be nuts)
Chris, without divulging any of your trade secrets, how did you go about locating drop shippers that could supply you product at a price that made it worth your while?

Chris Hanson 08-30-2007 10:59 AM

Pm coming your way

JackNoMore 08-30-2007 12:46 PM

I've never been suspended for buying feedback. Had a feedback removed, but that was because this @$$hole buyer reported me because he couldn't be a man and suck up his mistake.

ebay-sucks 08-31-2007 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 8730)
Pm coming your way

How about me.....

I tried the drop ship thing a few years ago and got totally burned from it. Guess I didnt do my homework and sent them money and they never sent the products.

Chris Hanson 08-31-2007 01:04 AM

oouch..always pay by paypal or credit card

x2ruff4u 08-31-2007 01:17 AM

u cant get suspended, just make sure nothing is the same, and dont repeat the same steps.

ihatebay 08-31-2007 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 8643)
You can sell before the 30 days. i examined plenty of sellers on EBay who somehow buys 8 cheap penny feedbacks and now is selling 15 $100-$200 items with a 15 day period.. Weird ain't it..

I see this one seller that uses a NEW user ID every 2 weeks because they get suspended every 2 weeks. I know its the same seller coz her templates and pictures don't change (burberry prada etc). The interesting thing is ALL her ebay names were created in 2005.

It's amazing how much someone can plan/prepare so much in advance - in this case almost 3 years.

Just the thought of still doing Ebay for the next 3 years makes me sick :eek:

Chris Hanson 08-31-2007 10:15 AM

trust Within the next year or so Ebay is going to cut this all out. Be ready to cough up your SSN

anotherebayhater 08-31-2007 12:36 PM

if they did that they would loose 75% of there sellers LOL

JackNoMore 08-31-2007 01:15 PM

And why would they begin doing that now after all this time, hmm? It's just as I expected--we've created a monster.

anotherebayhater 08-31-2007 01:29 PM

im a newbie but i really dont think they will require SS #s to sell they really would loose tons of business especially since most sellers got booted for no apparent reason and have to sneak back on. of course ebay is a jackazz so I could be totally wrong.:)

imjustme 08-31-2007 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 8902)
trust Within the next year or so Ebay is going to cut this all out. Be ready to cough up your SSN

what about users outside the US? we never have a SSN and will never be asked for one :P

DogFacedBoy 08-31-2007 04:51 PM

You could get around it by setting up LLCs etc and providing an FEIN but that would be costly to have to set up an LLC every time you get booted!

ebay-sucks 08-31-2007 07:06 PM

If people start giving that then you will be doing excatly what freak bay wants, they will have total CONTROL OVER YOU and your life.

Google is awaiting them to do something like this, like I said in another post, they are waiting ebay to shot themselves in the other foot, then they wont have to look for customers, they will have them all.

GO GOOGLE GO !!!

JackNoMore 08-31-2007 08:14 PM

Well they'll have to have something that works first. Not that I doubt their ability to do it, but Base just isn't doing it for me.

Chris Hanson 09-01-2007 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anotherebayhater (Post 8937)
im a newbie but i really dont think they will require SS #s to sell they really would loose tons of business especially since most sellers got booted for no apparent reason and have to sneak back on. of course ebay is a jackazz so I could be totally wrong.:)

Don't you know by now Ebay cant be stopped and they are number 1. They dont care if they lose sellers, they feel like they are just ridding themselves of the fraudsters and bad sellers anyway.

whome 09-01-2007 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 8902)
trust Within the next year or so Ebay is going to cut this all out. Be ready to cough up your SSN


No problem ebay is this happens...I'll just raid ancestry.com's database of "expired" SSN's. :D

Ancestry.com - Search Social Security Death Index

anotherebayhater 09-01-2007 08:50 AM

will paypal check if its expired? hmmmm maybe someone with an ancestry acct can try lol imagine PP trying to collect from a dead person... hee hee hee >)

DogFacedBoy 09-01-2007 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whome (Post 9031)
No problem ebay is this happens...I'll just raid ancestry.com's database of "expired" SSN's. :D

Ancestry.com - Search Social Security Death Index

:eek: :eek: :eek:
My mom who died in 1999 just started selling on ebay:D :D :D

Chris Hanson 09-01-2007 11:19 AM

I'm not advertising fraud or anything but alot people have been using limewire and just type in "tax forms" and wha lah. You get someone else tax forms. But I wouldn't do that unless your ready for jail.

See some people leave their tax forms in their shared folder that Limewire uses. And they wonder why they get their identity stolen


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