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glacier922 12-29-2019 03:50 PM

created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Did any of you experience this? Is it just a numbers/percentage based? It's like they have an arbitrary 50% number to suspend or something. Has the instant suspension lessened now that it's past Christmas?

agent006140 12-29-2019 05:34 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
what did you sell?

slokor 12-29-2019 07:28 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Sounds like something go those accounts linked.
Was there any activity on the accounts?

zamzam 12-29-2019 07:41 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Are they being listed on or just created then sat to age?

glacier922 12-30-2019 06:17 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
No, no activity. Hard suspension, can't login to account to get customer service number or anything. The suspension rate wasn't this bad before. All got suspended around Christmas day.

JamesNorth101 12-30-2019 06:19 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
You cannot even log into the accounts?

zamzam 12-30-2019 06:30 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1058153)
can't login to account

That doesnt sound great

glacier922 12-30-2019 06:56 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Nope can't login. Well u can login but then it gives me naru every page I click

JamesNorth101 12-30-2019 07:10 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
When you log into emails what sort of limitation notification have they sent you?

Ebayorbust 12-30-2019 07:13 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1058169)
Nope can't login. Well u can login but then it gives me naru every page I click

You can login. The accounts are no different to any other suspended ebay account.

newstart123 12-30-2019 07:46 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1058093)
Did any of you experience this? Is it just a numbers/percentage based? It's like they have an arbitrary 50% number to suspend or something. Has the instant suspension lessened now that it's past Christmas?

now almost all new accounts get banned. If you have not connected verified paypal it is absolutelly normal

rollinandrollout 12-30-2019 12:46 PM

created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
I honestly don’t think eBay will ever go back to ‘normal’ and we just have to adapt to their new heightened security. Methods always change in some way and we just have to get around them or look for a 9-5.

I’ve found success in ageing accounts for a month and selling on them without any restrictions/suspensions at all.

To answer your question, I tried creating new accounts and selling straight away but they were unsurprisingly suspended. So eBay is still being quick to pull the trigger I’d say and won’t loosen up until January(end of Q4) if they ever do

RipeBanana 12-30-2019 07:49 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
It seems everyone experience is different, I made a stealth about 10 days or so ago, listed something after 2 days, sold it, I listed another item, everything is going well. hope it stays that way

slokor 12-30-2019 07:53 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Well if you lost half the accounts at the exact same time (and im betting if you check the ebay emails notifying you of the suspensions youll see theyre within the range of a few minutes) then two things are clear. The first is the fact it was a sweep and the second is that the accounts had commonalities in the way you created them.
You need to go over the process you used and figure out which parts of it are the most likely to have been the linking factor.

glacier922 12-30-2019 11:55 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
For sure it was within a few minutes of each other. Within 5 minutes. It was a sweep. Could it be the pictures? I heard that ebay doesn't count pictures anymore in terms of using other people's pictures because it's ebay's property at that point. I heard that was the TOS.

Ebayorbust 12-31-2019 12:11 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1058313)
For sure it was within a few minutes of each other. Within 5 minutes. It was a sweep. Could it be the pictures? I heard that ebay doesn't count pictures anymore in terms of using other people's pictures because it's ebay's property at that point. I heard that was the TOS.

Thought you said there was no activity on the accounts?

degsey69 12-31-2019 12:24 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
The tightening of security is mainly in the USA due to managed payments being introduced here. Any new accounts are being rigorously vetted after being suspended and the security vetting is getting tighter when you call them to verify the account, that now eliminates made up names to addresses.

I think that these take downs may be because the address and name on public file do not match and they are cleaning house for managed payments.

glacier922 12-31-2019 01:12 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Well I meant that the first listing I put, they start taking things down, so the accounts are fine until after I list something

degsey69 12-31-2019 01:21 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
That is correct, as far as I know all accounts are suspended on first listing until you call them up and pass verification.

This actually helped me as I had a flaw in my set up and I worked out that the VPN that I was using they did not like now as when verifying the accounts they were very blunt in informing me that they did not want my business.

So if anybody is using Express VPN dump them, as eBay has flagged them, ipburger works for now.

glacier922 12-31-2019 01:38 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
How about cell phone tether, are they good for you now or no good ? I was opening accounts through cell phone tether

glacier922 12-31-2019 05:12 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
OK fine, I admit, it's not absolutely 0 activity, it was 1 activity which was list 1 item.

SaiJin 12-31-2019 05:21 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Glacier, the photo stuff is still in place, it hasn't changed btw.

rsot 12-31-2019 06:17 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1058350)
Anyway...good luck in getting to the bottom of it.

Hoping for the best

degsey69 01-01-2020 03:23 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Cell phone tether is not an issue as far I can see as the ip changes all the time, I used to do it all the time on Amazon and they are more tech savvy than eBay.

dontstop 01-01-2020 11:12 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pricha (Post 1058182)
now almost all new accounts get banned. If you have not connected verified paypal it is absolutelly normal

This is it. All my new accounts were getting banned because the Paypal was not verified. Since Paypal verified, no suspensions on the last 10 accounts that I have created. I think this is a new thing were sellers need a verified Paypal to sell on eBay.

slokor 01-01-2020 11:43 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Using a VPN would have certainly been a linking factor.
Using your cellphone as a hotspot device would work better. Be sure to keep track of all the IPs being used.

landman210 01-03-2020 12:15 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Ya something is definitely flawed in your process. I started a few a week or so ago and followed normal procedures. Build cookies, search around etc for a few days then listed no risk real picture items. Took about 24 hours and got notice two verify. Had to call twice for reasons stated in other threads. Public records type. Second call CS was helpful, I used common sense when it came to questions and got reactivated immediately. No problem.

landman210 01-03-2020 12:20 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
I always use 24vc for vpn.. Probably used them for over a hundred accounts past few years and never any issues.
Just a thought, could it be opening so many at once leads to mistakes? Not saying that's the reason but I've never opened more than a few at a time.

DavidTheMillionaire 01-03-2020 02:11 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1058329)
How about cell phone tether, are they good for you now or no good ? I was opening accounts through cell phone tether

Did you create multiple accounts using the same cell phone service, or did you mix it up with other cell phone services?

stealthbro 01-03-2020 06:54 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
i got 50+ suspended recently. And i wrote all datapoints out. Nothing matches with remaining active one. And it looks pure random.. super super random. Everything what i read here does not match with my method.

stealthbro 01-03-2020 06:58 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
- its not ip
- its not inactivity
- its not cookies
- its not "digital items"
- its not "high risk items"
- its not 3rd party
- its not phone number
- its not cc
- its not pp is not linked
- its not first or second listing
- its not email
...
nothing matches

degsey69 01-03-2020 09:54 AM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
I think the suspensions are to have you phone up and have the account verified over the phone by asking personal questions such as your height where you may have lived or car color etc.

Just another way that eBay is tightening up.

I expect that none of the suspended accounts were on managed payments.

Speeder33 01-03-2020 01:36 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthbro (Post 1058991)
i got 50+ suspended recently. And i wrote all datapoints out. Nothing matches with remaining active one. And it looks pure random.. super super random. Everything what i read here does not match with my method.

were these ones with listings or with 0 history?

HurricaneHuntr 01-03-2020 04:01 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 1058329)
How about cell phone tether, are they good for you now or no good ? I was opening accounts through cell phone tether

i've always made it this way. plenty of big celluar people use ebay mobile they just cant ban mobile use..So ips refresh quickly, some duplicates i am sure, but ebay can't tie that.. there's too many mobile users.
I've lost a half dozen over the last month .. some 5-7 year old accounts. But, still issue persists.. on first listing, usually call or find another way :)

HurricaneHuntr 01-03-2020 04:03 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthbro (Post 1058992)
- its not ip
- its not inactivity
- its not cookies
- its not "digital items"
- its not "high risk items"
- its not 3rd party
- its not phone number
- its not cc
- its not pp is not linked
- its not first or second listing
- its not email
...
nothing matches

bro, they stealth or you using public data? aka true people search dot com? bc that datas not always the newest info.

glacier922 01-03-2020 06:10 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidTheMillionaire (Post 1058951)
Did you create multiple accounts using the same cell phone service, or did you mix it up with other cell phone services?

I used the same cell phone service.

glacier922 01-03-2020 06:11 PM

Re: created 30 plus accounts, half got suspended, many on Christmas day
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by degsey69 (Post 1059018)
I think the suspensions are to have you phone up and have the account verified over the phone by asking personal questions such as your height where you may have lived or car color etc.

Just another way that eBay is tightening up.

I expect that none of the suspended accounts were on managed payments.

That's right, none of mine were on managed payments.


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