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cookiepies 08-13-2021 01:17 PM

Is ebay stealth finished???
 
I'm sorry, but I don't see a solution to eBay managed payments requiring SSN (without stealing someone else's SSN which is ILLEGAL and can end you up in prison).

I've considered creating an LLC and using an EIN, but I called eBay and they informed me that I would still need to provide my personal info (last 4 of SSN as well as DOB) because I am the owner of the business.

I assume my SSN and DOB has been blacklisted. Is there no way around this?

From what I can see, eBay Stealth is finished unless I steal someone's identity, which I will *not* do.

cookiepies 08-13-2021 01:19 PM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
I forgot to say: any help would be GREATLY appreciated

HelpNeeded! 08-13-2021 01:22 PM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cookiepies (Post 1166200)
I'm sorry, but I don't see a solution to eBay managed payments requiring SSN (without stealing someone else's SSN which is ILLEGAL and can end you up in prison).

I've considered creating an LLC and using an EIN, but I called eBay and they informed me that I would still need to provide my personal info (last 4 of SSN as well as DOB) because I am the owner of the business.

I assume my SSN and DOB has been blacklisted. Is there no way around this?

From what I can see, eBay Stealth is finished unless I steal someone's identity, which I will *not* do.


Yes even with a business account you have to have a stakeholder in the company provide last 4 of SSN and DOB to sign up for MP. My info has definitely been blacklisted over and over, but I was just able to make an account about a week ago using my SSN and DOB, and even some shared other info that would link me, but still got the green light. I am not sure, but I think that there has to be a certain number of flags to go off to fully link you. I mean you share your DOB with how many other people? And just the last 4 of your SSN isn't enough. Then again, I did have to verify my account with public record questions.. so I guess that negates my last statement in a sense. But its still doable. Just harder.

murdered_by_ebay 08-13-2021 07:12 PM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
if you were not suspended being on MP already then you can use your personal details without problems. ebay allow suspended users back in as long as the suspension did not take place on MP

cookiepies 08-13-2021 09:26 PM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166240)
if you were not suspended being on MP already then you can use your personal details without problems. ebay allow suspended users back in as long as the suspension did not take place on MP

A buying account from more than a year ago was suddenly suspended (unpaid item cases). I didn't know it was linked to my selling account, and my selling account was suspended too (I was enrolled in managed payments and had provided SSN).

Is what you are saying means that because a buying account was suspended, just the info on that is blacklisted, and even though my selling account was suspended, it was suspended indirectly, so all of its info is not blacklisted? Just the info on the first account?

murdered_by_ebay 08-13-2021 09:31 PM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cookiepies (Post 1166250)
A buying account from more than a year ago was suddenly suspended (unpaid item cases). I didn't know it was linked to my selling account, and my selling account was suspended too (I was enrolled in managed payments and had provided SSN).

Is what you are saying means that because a buying account was suspended, just the info on that is blacklisted, and even though my selling account was suspended, it was suspended indirectly, so all of its info is not blacklisted? Just the info on the first account?

it is possible it is not blacklisted because suspensions have different levels. there are heavy ones like copyright and selling dangerous items , there you are likely to be taken out completely

but there are also others like random suspensions of new accounts for example where there are tons of example of people selling on ebay for years and getting suspended on trying to open new accounts with same details but at the same time their established accounts continue selling as normal

cookiepies 08-13-2021 09:37 PM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166252)
it is possible it is not blacklisted because suspensions have different levels. there are heavy ones like copyright and selling dangerous items , there you are likely to be taken out completely

but there are also others like random suspensions of new accounts for example where there are tons of example of people selling on ebay for years and getting suspended on trying to open new accounts with same details but at the same time their established accounts continue selling as normal

To be honest, I'm not 100% sure why the buying account was suspended. I had requested several INR/SNAD claims but nothing out of the ordinary. I did have several unpaid item cases so I assumed it was that.

When I called eBay they said the suspension was final, could not be appealed, and they couldn't tell me what I did wrong lest I circumvented the suspension.

murdered_by_ebay 08-13-2021 09:47 PM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cookiepies (Post 1166253)
To be honest, I'm not 100% sure why the buying account was suspended. I had requested several INR/SNAD claims but nothing out of the ordinary. I did have several unpaid item cases so I assumed it was that.

When I called eBay they said the suspension was final, could not be appealed, and they couldn't tell me what I did wrong lest I circumvented the suspension.

could be random again

rsot 08-14-2021 06:36 AM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166255)
could be random again

While something might feel random, there is likely some flag tripped up when carefully analyzed with all details

agent006140 08-15-2021 09:12 AM

unpaid item strikes,disputes over INR,INAD,UA means you are a hazard to Ebay seller community,so you are suspended.

Ebay just released earnings,saying there is 2% less active buyers ?
AMZN forward guidance is that sales is slowing down?
Ditto with Etsy.
So either buyers are going back to brick and mortar stores OR they have spent their stimulus checks .
Higher shipping cost and sales tax are two more reasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostdude (Post 1166407)
Less active buyers sure, and I bet even less sellers. There is no way this MP bull sh*t is not hurting their numbers.

Ill give it a year before they go back haha.

there is never less sellers.
Less sellers is good,as the surviving sellers would make more money,provide better customer service and stop cutting corners on packing and shipping.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostdude (Post 1166407)
Less active buyers sure, and I bet even less sellers. There is no way this MP bull sh*t is not hurting their numbers.

Ill give it a year before they go back haha.

Go back to what??
Paypal?
No way,like AMZN one click, Ebay needs extra income from MP as sales stay stagnant.

By now most retail stores have website and free shipping with $35 purchase,I bought from Macy twice recently,I am shocked how fast they deliver.
I can also buy brand new appliances on WMT,BBY.HD,TGT with free shipping ,why buy old beat up ones with shipping from Ebay sellers?

what do you mean by so much stuff?
buying from Macy,Target,Walmart,AMZN every one does .
I just came back from Home Depot,I bought paint,and some plants replacing those destroyed by the last storm.
Surprised that on Sunday ,not many shoppers??

ghostdude 08-15-2021 09:17 AM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Less active buyers sure, and I bet even less sellers. There is no way this MP bull sh*t is not hurting their numbers.

Ill give it a year before they go back haha.


Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1166405)
Ebay just released earnings,saying there is 2% less active buyers ?
AMZN forward guidance is that sales is slowing down?
Ditto with Etsy.
So either buyers are going back to brick and mortar stores OR they have spent their stimulus checks .
Higher shipping cost and sales tax are two more reasons


Pandoras_box 08-15-2021 09:19 AM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Excruciatingly difficult and expensive? Yes. Finished? No.

PepsiCoin 08-15-2021 10:28 AM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1166412)
By now most retail stores have website and free shipping with $35 purchase,I bought from Macy twice recently,I am shocked how fast they deliver.
I can also buy brand new appliances on WMT,BBY.HD,TGT with free shipping ,why buy old beat up ones with shipping from Ebay sellers?

how do you know so much stuff?

murdered_by_ebay 08-15-2021 01:48 PM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1166410)
there is never less sellers.
Less sellers is good,as the surviving sellers would make more money,provide better customer service and stop cutting corners on packing and shipping.

there are already less sellers and higher prices on amazon , ebay are just copying their model. there will be less sellers and items , the prices will be higher and this will make ebay less competitive for buyers. amazon do not need to mind such an issue as they do not need many sellers , it is different with ebay though

Xilla 08-16-2021 11:30 AM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166423)
there are already less sellers and higher prices on amazon , ebay are just copying their model. there will be less sellers and items , the prices will be higher and this will make ebay less competitive for buyers. amazon do not need to mind such an issue as they do not need many sellers , it is different with ebay though

Yes. Their policy is not yet clear. It seems to me that these actions will not lead the ebay to a good end.

murdered_by_ebay 08-16-2021 12:15 PM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xilla (Post 1166551)
Yes. Their policy is not yet clear. It seems to me that these actions will not lead the ebay to a good end.

after initial profit surge on MP ebay will have a stagnation. the argument that the quality will become a lot better so everything will become a lot better is not valid because less competition means higher prices and buyers will start looking elsewhere as well once they see that many sellers disappeared and the remaining ones decided to cash in on this

Xilla 08-18-2021 05:40 AM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166558)
after initial profit surge on MP ebay will have a stagnation. the argument that the quality will become a lot better so everything will become a lot better is not valid because less competition means higher prices and buyers will start looking elsewhere as well once they see that many sellers disappeared and the remaining ones decided to cash in on this

I don’t argue)) They also say that in this way they fight against scammers. But such people will always be able to register their own accounts.

rsot 08-18-2021 05:44 AM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1166558)
after initial profit surge on MP ebay will have a stagnation. the argument that the quality will become a lot better so everything will become a lot better is not valid because less competition means higher prices and buyers will start looking elsewhere as well once they see that many sellers disappeared and the remaining ones decided to cash in on this

Argument from eb is about quality.

eb stock hit an all time high few days back so confidence is up...

robjobs 08-18-2021 10:23 AM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1166754)
Argument from eb is about quality.

eb stock hit an all time high few days back so confidence is up...

Facts I seen that brodie.

murdered_by_ebay 08-18-2021 10:27 AM

Re: Is ebay stealth finished???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1166754)
Argument from eb is about quality.

eb stock hit an all time high few days back so confidence is up...

confidence comes and goes. if buyers leave that will not be that easy to get them back and rising prices are in issue if competition gets reduced


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