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Automasters 05-21-2025 11:54 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
I don't think it's dead, we just need to be more crafty ;)

agent006140 05-26-2025 07:37 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jt_infamous (Post 1256450)
my theroy is that theres a ratio they hope to have. People coming and selling with no purchase isn’t good business. Hence why they ban you but still allow you to buy. Its lowkey hard to get banned from purchasing on ebay

-No,a person can lose his buying privilege but not his selling privilege - a seller in rural MExico filed too many INR on cheap trinklets he bought on Ebay,they were sent with no tracking .
In his area,any package coming from USA must be valuable ,so theft is common !
Ebay suspended his buying privilege as he is a hazard to the Ebay seller community !! )

murdered_by_ebay 05-26-2025 07:50 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
ebay have too many sellers , buyers are always welcome

they may suspend buyers too but that would be for suspicious buying activity , for example buying high risk items or using suspicious payment methods , especially cards from entities that are abused often , like payoneer for example

otherwise if it is a regular buying activity limited in size in terms of $$$ they do not mind

agent006140 05-26-2025 08:14 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Buying with virtual VISA cards sold by scammers who steal our cc data to buy these cards and resell them at deep discount quickly before we find out.
There was a time AMZN would not accept its own virtual prepaid VISA cards !

Karlis96 05-26-2025 09:27 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
I think it will no longer be possible to create many accounts and treat them lightly, as it was before. If you block them, nothing will open the next one, or like others, there were about 50 active accounts

murdered_by_ebay 05-26-2025 10:21 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1257799)
I think it will no longer be possible to create many accounts and treat them lightly, as it was before. If you block them, nothing will open the next one, or like others, there were about 50 active accounts

you mean you lost 50?

Karlis96 05-26-2025 11:06 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1257800)
you mean you lost 50?

I have lost well over 50 accounts in the process of creating accounts. All of the lost accounts have been since January of this year.

aking 05-27-2025 10:00 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
I will say this forum helped me become very successful seller 20 years ago. The Stealth Book helped me personally tremendously, however I will say this was 15-20 years ago.

Karlis96 05-28-2025 01:26 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aking (Post 1257878)
I will say this forum helped me become very successful seller 20 years ago. The Stealth Book helped me personally tremendously, however I will say this was 15-20 years ago.

I think the problem is no longer in the book, but in the AI ​​that eBay itself uses.

rsot 05-28-2025 08:57 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1257881)
I think the problem is no longer in the book, but in the AI ​​that eBay itself uses.

Correct - and over time some tools and resources cited in the book have become dated and easily identifiable :(

dabuds420 05-28-2025 09:08 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
All about learning on the job these days, I'm always trying new methods and strategies until the code is cracked. 6 months later, there is a new code to crack haha, all part of the game.

Karlis96 05-28-2025 12:17 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257911)
All about learning on the job these days, I'm always trying new methods and strategies until the code is cracked. 6 months later, there is a new code to crack haha, all part of the game.

interesting how you crack ebay’s AI

dabuds420 05-28-2025 06:36 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1257923)
interesting how you crack ebay’s AI

Trial and error and obsessive research.

matthewhon112 05-29-2025 10:13 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257927)
Trial and error and obsessive research.

have you cracked it recently?

dabuds420 05-29-2025 11:13 AM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewhon112 (Post 1257967)
have you cracked it recently?

It seems that way, I have made 5 personal accounts within the last 72 hours all have been able to list without the re-activate error, all have £38k/5k item monthly limits.

Just getting sales now and slowly building them up, so far so good!

matthewhon112 05-29-2025 12:12 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257972)
It seems that way, I have made 5 personal accounts within the last 72 hours all have been able to list without the re-activate error, all have £38k/5k item monthly limits.

Just getting sales now and slowly building them up, so far so good!

any chance your willing to share what your doing differently?

kirkland 05-29-2025 12:28 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Im with the above posters, its definitely harder than it was in pre-2022 years to easily create stealth accounts. And you definitely cant create then in the same volume you used to be able to (eg double digits per day).

It was giving me major issues a few months back, every new account I made was getting suspended. But I think I figured it out since the past handful of accounts Ive made have all had no issue.

All I can say is, take it slow, and be very deliberate. Focus on creating accounts that get 5k+ limits right off the bat. If you get some 15/month limit, most likely it'll either be suspended, or you'll have to call in to 'reactivate it' which is hit or miss (maybe 50% success rate).

dabuds420 05-29-2025 01:13 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewhon112 (Post 1257978)
any chance your willing to share what your doing differently?

Unfortunately I cannot. I hate to gatekeep. However it has taken me months on end, nobody was quick to assist me regarding this.

I'm sure many others veteran sellers are also clued in on how this works but didn't care to share either.

Karlis96 05-29-2025 02:37 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257985)
Unfortunately I cannot. I hate to gatekeep. However it has taken me months on end, nobody was quick to assist me regarding this.

I'm sure many others veteran sellers are also clued in on how this works but didn't care to share either.

I know many who have such limits specifically for UK accounts. A lot depends on the country where the account is opened. So it may seem like you are cracking something, but in reality it is different and those who read this from another country where it is more difficult to open an account think that you have a success story. I also had such accounts with such limits until the end of 2024 and in January 2025 everything changed. I think that there is a ratio of purchases and sales, if purchases are less than sales by some set coefficient then why do you need sellers? Another thing could be AI that sees parallels with similar accounts, including behavior. I don't believe that one person can crack a security system worth millions that has been created by countless IT specialists for years.

dabuds420 05-29-2025 06:07 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1257987)
I know many who have such limits specifically for UK accounts. A lot depends on the country where the account is opened. So it may seem like you are cracking something, but in reality it is different and those who read this from another country where it is more difficult to open an account think that you have a success story. I also had such accounts with such limits until the end of 2024 and in January 2025 everything changed. I think that there is a ratio of purchases and sales, if purchases are less than sales by some set coefficient then why do you need sellers? Another thing could be AI that sees parallels with similar accounts, including behavior. I don't believe that one person can crack a security system worth millions that has been created by countless IT specialists for years.

I used to fully agree with you a few months back, thinking it was all down to eBay managing sellers to fit the demand or lack thereof of buyers. But honestly now I think that’s mostly BS.

There are ways to get high limit accounts without triggering reactivation or bans, it just comes down to figuring out the right strategy. I’ve been testing non stop and finally found something that works.

At this point, I only have experience working with eBay UK, and for a lot of people it's been proving quite hard to be successful there nowadays. However, I genuinely think I could make it work in any country, it's all about being persistent in testing new methods.

kirkland 05-29-2025 07:29 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dabuds420 (Post 1257990)
I used to fully agree with you a few months back, thinking it was all down to eBay managing sellers to fit the demand or lack thereof of buyers. But honestly now I think that’s mostly BS.

There are ways to get high limit accounts without triggering reactivation or bans, it just comes down to figuring out the right strategy. I’ve been testing non stop and finally found something that works.

At this point, I only have experience working with eBay UK, and for a lot of people it's been proving quite hard to be successful there nowadays. However, I genuinely think I could make it work in any country, it's all about being persistent in testing new methods.

I posted a few comments above you about how I recently found some success in creating new accounts. Does your method allow you to create in large volumes (eg multi accounts per day)? Or are you moreso going about at a slower rate (for me, right now, 1 account/day is working without issue and I havent tried to push it since Im happy with my recent method)

dabuds420 05-29-2025 08:07 PM

Re: Stealth may be dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkland (Post 1257994)
I posted a few comments above you about how I recently found some success in creating new accounts. Does your method allow you to create in large volumes (eg multi accounts per day)? Or are you moreso going about at a slower rate (for me, right now, 1 account/day is working without issue and I havent tried to push it since Im happy with my recent method)

Since finding success with my new method, I’ve created five accounts over the past seven days. I wouldn’t consider that high volume but everyone's interpretation is different, although three were made just yesterday alone.

So far, it seems scalable. All accounts have active listings with no hiccups. The oldest ones already have completed sales and successful payouts with no issues at all. I plan to keep scaling in case eBay changes things again.


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