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leonid5000 12-03-2007 08:10 PM

Auctiva eBay token
 
Can 1 Auctiva account be used on many ebay accounts which I don't want to be linked in eBay's system? Or do I need to create a new auctiva every time that I open a new ebay ? 'Cause I know Auctiva uses tokens... so I wonder if that token can be erased ? Because if for example I have one hundred auctions in my Auctiva and I want to switch to my new ⊗⊗⊗⊗ eBay account, would that work? I don't think it would work but I thought I'd ask. I'm kinda new to Auctiva.

ebayhateluv 12-03-2007 08:32 PM

HI- NO, 1 for each.. Thats why we have to copy/paste every time we loose one. Best thing- store your pics on the desk top in a folder, that way you're ready every time you have to relaod the- the descrips-- you can have both the new + the old Auctiva accts open in IE at the same time- so go to the old-copy the descript-- then minimize- flip to the new + paste....

leonid5000 12-03-2007 08:45 PM

what about turbo lister selling manager?

ebayhateluv 12-03-2007 08:50 PM

thats automatically linked with ebay-- id stay away from their software....the old turbo lister now replaced with blackthorne

leonid5000 12-03-2007 09:29 PM

Basicaly we need program like auctiva only like a hacked one where we can delete this token. finding a good programmer would not be a problem..
Then we can load all the staff in to it and change user ids. This can be hot.
Need to speak to some very good russian programmers

ebayhateluv 12-03-2007 09:34 PM

CHRIS HANSON is the MASTER!!!

Chris Hanson 12-03-2007 09:34 PM

haha yaw have no clue of how the internet work do you.. If you delete the token auctiva will no longer work with Ebay a.. The token contains no information about you whatsoever. all it does it gives auctiva the right to transfer info to ebay. There is no way for you to get linked or suspended by using auctiva unless you use same auctiva account with suspended ebay account ..

leonid5000 12-03-2007 09:41 PM

CHRIS HANSON reminds me one person i knew. He always acted like he was working hard. But didn't know wf he was doing. He also teach every one how to do their job. one time he wanted to help and got a big shot of electricity. I guess he need it.

leonid5000 12-03-2007 09:42 PM

the hole point is to use the same activa and replace or generate new token... that way you can plug in new ebay accounts ad delete old ones. to do that you need a program like activa only hacked one so token can easy be replaced or deleted..
that way you can post 100s of actions automatically without getting linked.. just load them once and thats it. i dont know exacly info that this token contains.. But this token in probebly what links you to ebay...Im positive that the programers can come up with something.. maybe username that activa use dont know... but my ideya is good if programmers can do it. Basicaly need to change activa a little ;-)

Chris Hanson 12-03-2007 10:15 PM

Your logic of thinking is screwed. You dont know what your talking about Leonid... There is no point at all and doing that. And there is absolutely no way of doing it. maybe you should learn what an token is and what it does. Your plan is far fetched


what your saying is like saying you replacing your brand new engine in your car with the same exactt brand new engine to make it go faster.....

No point at all, no logic behind it and totally absurd

leonid5000 12-03-2007 11:38 PM

lets say i got 100 actions loadet to the program for example.. with push of the bottom i can post 100 actions. If that account will get suspended i dont want to load these 100 actions again to different place because it takes time. this is the hole point of this. If i can post 100 actions fast just by changing ebay user ids that would be super. But i guess CHRIS don't get the ideya. He thinks im talking about one stuped token in auctiva.

longisland88 12-03-2007 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 16681)
Your logic of thinking is screwed. You dont know what your talking about Leonid... There is no point at all and doing that. And there is absolutely no way of doing it. maybe you should learn what an token is and what it does. Your plan is far fetched


what your saying is like saying you replacing your brand new engine in your car with the same exactt brand new engine to make it go faster.....

No point at all, no logic behind it and totally absurd

every time I read your posts I get annoyed


leonid that seems awesome if you could figure out how to do it. Keep us updated!!

leonid5000 12-04-2007 12:05 AM

i read many acticles like this about ebay and auctiva.. Are they freands o enimies ;-)

Threatened By eBay?

This week the company canceled, without warning, over 100 auctions that were using a popular auction utility developed by Oakland-based Auctiva. eBay claims the auctions were canceled because several users violated eBay's listing policy, which prohibits placing links or advertisements for other auction services within an eBay auction. Auctiva claims eBay's being a big bully baring its bidding brutishness.

I like this one
HOW FAR HAS 'VLADUZ' HACKED INTO EBAY?
How far has 'Vladuz' hacked into eBay? - The Red Tape Chronicles - MSNBC.com

read at the end
"Can anyone believe that counterfeiters using phished accounts could list this many items, using all new accounts each time, three or four times a day? Day after day?" she said. "There are thousands of them ... EBay is completely at the mercy of the scammers.”

leonid5000 12-04-2007 12:27 AM

Mystery eBay 'hack' exposes 1,200 accounts, possibly more

Mystery eBay 'hack' exposes 1,200 accounts, possibly more

Chris Hanson 12-04-2007 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longisland88 (Post 16686)
every time I read your posts I get annoyed


leonid that seems awesome if you could figure out how to do it. Keep us updated!!

Well dont read it then. You know I'm not forcing you to read my post, your choosing too.

Chris Hanson 12-04-2007 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonid5000 (Post 16684)
lets say i got 100 actions loadet to the program for example.. with push of the bottom i can post 100 actions. If that account will get suspended i dont want to load these 100 actions again to different place because it takes time. this is the hole point of this. If i can post 100 actions fast just by changing ebay user ids that would be super. But i guess CHRIS don't get the ideya. He thinks im talking about one stuped token in auctiva.

You can already post 100 auctions with a click of a button with auctiva, And if you did get suspended and tried to use the same 1-- listngs you will be linked by Image Urls and auction listing similarities..

Chris Hanson 12-04-2007 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonid5000 (Post 16688)
i read many acticles like this about ebay and auctiva.. Are they freands o enimies ;-)

Threatened By eBay?

This week the company canceled, without warning, over 100 auctions that were using a popular auction utility developed by Oakland-based Auctiva. eBay claims the auctions were canceled because several users violated eBay's listing policy, which prohibits placing links or advertisements for other auction services within an eBay auction. Auctiva claims eBay's being a big bully baring its bidding brutishness.

I like this one
HOW FAR HAS 'VLADUZ' HACKED INTO EBAY?
How far has 'Vladuz' hacked into eBay? - The Red Tape Chronicles - MSNBC.com

read at the end
"Can anyone believe that counterfeiters using phished accounts could list this many items, using all new accounts each time, three or four times a day? Day after day?" she said. "There are thousands of them ... EBay is completely at the mercy of the scammers.”

They need to create around 30 thousand ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts. Seperate all employees into 30 groups and give 1000 accounts and there information to each group but a different 1000 accounts per group(but not reveal they are ⊗⊗⊗⊗). If only certain ones get stolen within a single group then it becomes obvious it's an inside job...if it seems spuratic then it's outside. Tag all the accounts (can even be done with ActiveX controls) and trace to the best of there ability locations. It can be done. People can tag someone elses computer with an ActiveX control that gives tons of info about someone else so why can't they selectively do that for investigative purposes?

leonid5000 12-04-2007 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 16693)
You can already post 100 auctions with a click of a button with auctiva, And if you did get suspended and tried to use the same 1-- listngs you will be linked by Image Urls and auction listing similarities..

then all you have to do is change the images thats it..
I dont change my image urls from imageshok any ways and accounts didn't got suspended yet but you can change that if you want .. you will not be linked by auction listing similarities. maybe you can be linked by auctiva token or auctiva user name or ip but never form auction listing similarities. I have never changed my listings at all and i had so many accounts. I will be looking in to auctiva very closely. Please Chris Hanson dont reply here you are getting on my nerves

leonid5000 12-04-2007 02:34 AM

Your negetive enrgy is interfiring with my creativity;-(

SECondplaygames 12-04-2007 02:59 AM

Nice speach. :)

Chris Hanson 12-04-2007 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonid5000 (Post 16698)
Your negetive enrgy is interfiring with my creativity;-(

Your logic is lowering my IQ

leonid5000 12-04-2007 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 16718)
Your logic is lowering my IQ

I don't think your IQ can get any lower than it already is. You're getting close to our dear president Bush there.
I'm a surrealist. You have to realize that logic isn't everything. There's a world beyond logic. Pay a visit there someday.

BTW, you promised ebayhateluv that you would post a copy of the merchant account that he sent you for everybody to see. I guess you kept it for yourself only and used the excuse that "ebay is watching." I know, I spoke to him. Instead of contributing your negative comments, contribute something good.

rond100 12-04-2007 05:43 PM

leonid5000

I followed your idea in 2007. Create a bunch of listings on one auctiva account and switch out 8 ebay accounts through token generation and list them constantly. This will work in the very shorty term like days or weeks. Once one accounts gets suspended the others will soon follow.

This is not a good idea from firsthand experience.

Chris Hanson 12-04-2007 07:17 PM

All you have to do is save the html from the auction listing .. Copy and paste.. Takes no time at all. List the same listings on multiple accounts

leonid5000 12-04-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rond100 (Post 16766)
leonid5000

I followed your idea in 2007. Create a bunch of listings on one auctiva account and switch out 8 ebay accounts through token generation and list them constantly. This will work in the very shorty term like days or weeks. Once one accounts gets suspended the others will soon follow.

This is not a good idea from firsthand experience.

It was not me who sugested you this . I just started dong reaserh about auctiva and tokens. I have 2 proffecional programmer working on it this moment.. Soon i will know if is possible to change auctiva or write a new program. There are very small changes need to be made there so you can change staff without evidence of past accouns. Unfortunatly all of this info will not be posted on forum because it is a serios offence.

leonid5000 12-04-2007 09:33 PM

another thing the paper is not nessary why they dont like you.. They probebly have samples of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ papers that they shuld look for.. also they look at your phone number and adress everything must mach. they may look at the photo url and other small things.. They have strikt rools what everything shuld look like. Remember they dont have brane just rools.

leonid5000 12-04-2007 09:42 PM

all of us people who want to stay on ebay in the near fucher will have to buy info from hackers (⊗⊗⊗⊗ identaty ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ssn and staff) you can buy this info online today. There are many hacker communities and most of them will sell it to you. They brake big databases form companyes everyday and have so many identaties that they sell them hole sale ;-) Ofcourse there ar many tricks. Identaty theft is allwase been a good bussines. But ebay just pushing us to this direction...

Chris Hanson 12-05-2007 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonid5000 (Post 16782)
It was not me who sugested you this . I just started dong reaserh about auctiva and tokens. I have 2 proffecional programmer working on it this moment.. Soon i will know if is possible to change auctiva or write a new program. There are very small changes need to be made there so you can change staff without evidence of past accouns. Unfortunatly all of this info will not be posted on forum because it is a serios offence.


LOL Nice dream lonid
There is now way it can be done without hacking Ebay website which means serious prison time, and with that, nobody is even stupid enough to hack the website to reprogram a stupid worthless token.

And this is coming from a person with over a decade of programming and computer experience with a degree to top it off

Chris Hanson 12-05-2007 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leonid5000 (Post 16784)
another thing the paper is not nessary why they dont like you.. They probebly have samples of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ papers that they shuld look for.. also they look at your phone number and adress everything must mach. they may look at the photo url and other small things.. They have strikt rools what everything shuld look like. Remember they dont have brane just rools.

Yeah that makes sense.

leonid5000 12-05-2007 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 16815)
LOL Nice dream lonid
There is now way it can be done without hacking Ebay website which means serious prison time, and with that, nobody is even stupid enough to hack the website to reprogram a stupid worthless token.

And this is coming from a person with over a decade of programming and computer experience with a degree to top it off

American programmers will never come close to Russian programmers in Russia. Your programming skills that they teach you here is like kindergarten for them.. I know i have used their services before and have good freands there. And hacking in to some free based software not going to be that hard.. It might be illigal and little expensive but not hard. who do you think wrote google (russian) ebays hierd russian programmers to reprogramm theyr security in 2006. . who programmed paypal? (russian programers) Everything can be done. I may not want it to be done but for good$ and good connections it can be.. you do not have to hack to ebay to get it done.. auctiva is not ebay.. If in the fusher if i will make inaf $ and go underground then i wuld not care about the law... if ebay will not live me any chose ;-) At the moment i didnt do anything illigal.. Not et anyway ;-)

Chris Hanson 12-05-2007 02:24 AM

Why are Russia programmers better them Americans?

leonid5000 12-05-2007 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 16822)
Why is Russia programmers better them Americans?

Thats just how it is. They think differently. Maybe genes, old culture. I don't know no one really know why some people born genius and some not. Or maybe it because they drink lots of vodka ;-)
For example Indian programmers can do the job but they are not creative. They can only follow rules.
in Russia they teach you in school not only how to program but how to think.. and we have very high math level. All programmers from all over the world respect Russian programmers


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