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| CPUGEEK | 04-19-2007 09:35 AM |
Unsuspendable accounts
Hey, I was wondering whats up with these unsuspendable accounts. I'm hearing alot about those lately. I guess ebay can't and won't suspend you with a unsupendable account? |
| Jack2007 | 04-19-2007 09:46 AM |
there's no such thing. If you have a "unsuspendable" account login with same ip with suspended account, then both will be gone. |
| CPUGEEK | 04-19-2007 09:54 AM |
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Originally Posted by Jack2007
(Post 2186)
there's no such thing. If you have a "unsuspendable" account login with same ip with suspended account, then both will be gone.
| So if the Sears account login on a suspended users Ip, their gone too huh? |
| Jack2007 | 04-19-2007 10:06 PM |
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Originally Posted by CPUGEEK
(Post 2187)
So if the Sears account login on a suspended users Ip, their gone too huh?
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yes, if they login into both account using same ip meaning they are the same person = ban. ebay does care who you are, you mess up they ban. |
| member423 | 04-29-2007 01:03 PM |
The only Unsuspendable accounts that I can think of would be Ebay's CEO account, and the people that work for ebay in account suspension and reinstatement department. |
| CPUGEEK | 04-29-2007 04:00 PM |
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Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 2632)
If you are determined to stay on EBAY and it is worth it to you, just create a new account whenever you have the time or inclination (spend the $20. on a Simon Gift card and file it away), drop by different libraries, or Apple Stores, or schools, or Starbucks now and again to utilize a different IP address, etc. Use Firefox set to delete all cookies every time.
Keep track of each IP address you create an account on and check your IP before creating a new account to make sure there is no overlap.
You can create five accounts for $100. and you don't lose the cash - you have five gift cards that have $20. on them each. You just have to keep ONE DOLLAR on each one in the event that EBAY asks for a re-authorization at the time you start selling.
And then use just one account at a time until it is suspended, pay as little fees as possible along the way, and stiff EBAY for the fees and move on to a back up account if you get suspended.
It's a bit of work but if it's important enough and worth it, that is what you have to do.
| Thats what I'm going to start doing..I was kind of set in my ways and had it in my mind that my one ebay account wasn't going to get suspended. Now I'm going to make about five accounts and just use 1 to sell and let the others sit , but I will still buy items with my other account just to keep it active and get feedback |
| ifreewillie | 04-30-2007 04:22 PM |
I believe that there are unsuspendable accounts out there, such as the companies that are affiliated with ebay.
Users such as i.soldit, auctiondrop etc are unsuspendable accounts I believe. |
| CPUGEEK | 04-30-2007 07:23 PM |
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Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 2228)
Not really so much care. One of the accounts I set up several months ago was suspended just days after I logged into it at a place where I had maybe a YEAR ago logged into a now suspended account.
Cookies may have had something to do with it too - the cookies left on that machine for EBAY had apparently never been cleaned or replaced with new EBAY cookies because no one other than me had ever used that computer for EBAY!
| Okay Modee. but you say IP address has little to do with it?? Do you sell the same thing and have the same pictures as the old suspended account? I'm a little confused here |
| kissdemon | 10-16-2007 05:31 AM |
I strongly believe that 'bulletproof' eBay accounts do exist, either the user has someone on the inside protecting them or the account belongs to an employee of eBay.
For example, there is a user who has been selling counterfeit games on the ebay UK site for about a year now. He completely sticks out like a sore thumb because he is the only person who seems to be allowed to sell these items, if anyone else tries they get banned immediately.
I even went to the trouble of ordering a game from the seller and actually sending the counterfeit item to the head of office of the games company in question. Additionally, I contacted eBay about the seller. Guess what, they did absolutely nothing.
Of course it could also be that this guy is moving so much volume he is being protected by a powerseller account manager.
But to say that unsuspendable accounts dont exist is nonsense |
| kissdemon | 10-16-2007 12:05 PM |
How do you account for the fact that this seller is the only one on ebay UK who has been allowed to operate?.
To further prove my point the seller even has some negative feedbacks from buyers saying its a copy or counterfeit.
The only logical explanation is that he works for eBay or is being protected by someone who works for eBay.
If you search around eBay you will find plenty of high tiered powersellers who are obviously selling counterfeit stuff but never seem to get suspended. Hell, I can point you to 20 right now, this is why eBay's T&S can be considered nothing more than a sad joke. |
| Chris Hanson | 10-16-2007 12:12 PM |
LOl Modee that doesnt have anything to do with kissdemon said..lol
We are not talking about stolen goods or a criminal conspiracy.
We talking about sellers who have unsuspendable accounts and sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ etc...
I believe too unsuspendable accounts does exist.
There are many sellers who gets complaint after complaint , negatives ranked up and Ebay does nothing.
Sears, best Buy, Circuit City etc..all have unsuspendable account status. |
| Chris Hanson | 10-16-2007 12:30 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by kissdemon
(Post 13813)
How do you account for the fact that this seller is the only one on ebay UK who has been allowed to operate?.
If you search around eBay you will find plenty of high tiered powersellers who are obviously selling counterfeit stuff but never seem to get suspended. Hell, I can point you to 20 right now, this is why eBay's T&S can be considered nothing more than a sad joke.
| I understand kissdemon,
my friend that stays in California has a friend who works for Ebay and she noted that they are some unsuspendable accounts as well.
Well not really unsuspendable but they have so many brownie points with Ebay that they turn their head.
See Ebay assigns numerical points to accounts. More points you have the more stuff you get away with. Say for instance i had 819 point value with my account. that a employee cannot suspend my account so basically I'm untouchable. Only a manager would be able to suspend my account and if I have a inside connect or know the manager that means the manager isn't going to touch my account either thus I'm unsuspendable..
Now the term "unsuspendable" is being used loosely.
Unsuspendable basically means that a employee cant touch my account only the powers to be. |
| Chris Hanson | 10-16-2007 12:33 PM |
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Originally Posted by Modee
(Post 13817)
Chris, you believe in all sorts of "conspiracy theories." I choose the more rational explanation, that T&S just hasn't gotten enough hard evidence or reasons to suspend the accounts yet.
You tend to post without thinking sometimes - if a bad seller selling counterfeits, or ripping people off as evidenced by for example negatives is staying on EBAY due to an insider, THAT is a criminal conspiracy.
And show me where Sears, Circuit City, etc. are selling counterfeits or racking up negatives?
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Modee I have a friend who has a friend that works for Ebay , as I stated before. Even though she is scared to give up too much info.
Also, How much evidence do you need?? They will kick a seller off Ebay for selling 1 counterfeit item or so they think, but they will let a powerseller or another seller sell bootlegs left and right, plus rank up negatives stating their selling knockoffs, plus have people complain to T&S but Ebay does nothing..
So I ask again how much evidence do they need? |
| Chris Hanson | 10-16-2007 12:45 PM |
Oh and I never said that Sears, Circuit City, etc. are selling counterfeits.
Now Cirucit City was ranking up negatives left and right but they also had ton of positive feedback . All I was saying that they had the unsuspendable account status. Not to fraud people, they have it just because of who they are. They make probably make mistakes too when listing items that sets off Ebay red flags, but do you think Ebay wants to deal with them when they know darn well there arent going to kick them off. Thats where the unsuspenable account status comes in. |
| kissdemon | 10-16-2007 01:03 PM |
Maybe the word 'unsuspendable' is a bit exaggerated. A better term might be 'bullet-proof' in the sense that those sellers are given a high degree of leniency compared to others.
It makes me furious because we have to constantly listen to all this bull**** from eBay about fighting fraud and counterfeit goods when in fact they encourage it if its putting enough money in their pockets.
I subscribe to Hanson’s opinion that each account receives a score, similar to credit ratings, when you reach a certain level they basically leave you alone unless you do something incredibly stupid. |
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