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paypal limited plus ebay suspended
 

Im so worried on how to deal with this BS.

So I wasnt selling anything counterfiet but using brand names logos on iPhone cases, which many many malls sell the same thing. I didnt think it was illegal because these companies do not manufacture iphone cases!

For example: Ferarri iPhone case..Ferrari does NOT make iphone cases..but one vero member screwed me over and all my listings went down even though it wasnt their brand..

anyways like I said in my other posts my buyers started filing disputes..and let me tell u i wrote in the listing these are NOT manufactured by these brands..its like free advertising for them so WTF? Customers KNEW they were not manfucatured by them because obviously they dont make iphone cases...

the items are shipped, tracking info provided..however some tracking is not showing up..delivery can take up to 3-4 weeks because they are international buyers for the most part..

then today i got an email saying my Paypal is limited for 180 days...how since buyers are constantly filing disputes...will they win and get their money back even though I can prove delivery in a few weeks?

Please help!!

oh and to top it off I tried appealing to ebay..and they said my account will remain closed because ILLEGAL activity is not allowed. HTF is this illegal activity since it's not COUNTERFIET or an imitation?

Will ebay ever reconsider opening back my accounts? Im expecting a baby soon and this is more than I can handle

eBay account indefinete suspension - buyers winning claims?!
 

I have already shipped the items, they are opening ebay buyer protection disputes, escalating to claims and winning within 1 day even though the item was bought a few days ago. Tracking provided but will take 2-3 weeks for delivery but ebay sided with the buyer on item not recieved!

what do i do?

Need more info to give advice.

'I shipped an item ...but it will take 2-3 weeks for delivery'. What does that mean? drop shipping?

Explain a bit more, please :pop2:

First - you attack why folx are putting in claims right away...did eb ay close your listings and send out e-mail to winners? I suspect that - let's be front with it =)

Yep, this is there newest scam. Buy your item wait until you send shipping number. Get you suspended by telling ebay you threatened them in email with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ headers. Then file claim and win right away. Get their money back and the item for free.

Only way to run is stealth, get your money out. Then ship. If they scam walk away to another stealth account.

Yes, the buyers will win their disputes and keep your item. Immediately call your credit card company and report your card lost. Then go down to your bank and close the account or put hold on all electronic withdrawals.

As for the Ebay/Paypal accounts they are done. Time to move on to stealth. if you have any positve balance left after 180 days, which is unlikely because they charge you for each dispute, you can withdraw to a new bank account.

When you go stealth, always get your money out first then ship. If the account goes negative, walk away and go to the next.
If you know what you are doing you can avoid holds even on new accounts. Best bet is have a few backup Paybay accounts ready to go. Once you get it down it will take you 10 minutes to make a new Paybay accounts and cost you like $5.

Not all buyers are filing disputes but Im scared they might after a while...If they cancel the disputes after item recieved, is there a chance I can get some money back? There is about $2000 on hold and the other $2000 I paid for the items and shipping... which i will lose about $4000 in total if they all decide to file disputes..and since my paypal is limited if some honest buyers decide to reimburse me, i cant even get that

Im so lost I don't know what I should do!

And how is that fair to me that they are opening item not recieved disputes, I provide tracking to show its on its way and they still win? wtf is this!

Yes, I am using a dropshipper and will take 7-20 business days or so to deliver. Items bought from july 28 to august 2 ..items shipped within 1-3 business days for all transactions..they are filing claims now..

and yes ebay sent out emails to all buyers saying "possible fraud possible counterfiet" the funny thing is, its "POSSIBLE" yet no proof!

When i contacted their Customer service, they informed me that i had a high security alert or whatever meaning from a large amount of transactions from a short period of time..so thats why i was suspended? another CS rep said possible counterfiet..and another said they cannot tell me because it will help fraudulent members avoid suspensions in the future..what a joke!

and another issue is, the items i was selling, i thought it was OK to sell since many other sellers are selling it, i thought if ebay has them listed it shouldnt be illegal..right? the sellers are older than me and still listing them using same keywords...

and i get suspended? wtf? I may have had better and more professional listings with photos that made faster sales (i took business in school)...so just because i had more transactions i get screwed over?

6 year old paypal account is limited..with about $2000 frozen..and if all buyers file claims and win, then the total money im out is about $4000..I cant afford that! What should I do? Ebay trust and safety will not listen .

they were iphone cases with logos like ferrari or chanel etc. I had NO INTENTION to infringe trademarks or whatever! I just found a supplier selling them and I thought it would be fine. since they are not counterfiet clothes or anything.

oh and get a load of this...stupid buyer buys item on the 1st of august..item shipped 2nd of august..files claim 3rd of august and wins the claim within 4 hours..ebay takes the money out of my account..and then sends me a invoice to pay it when they've already taken the MONEY OUT OF MY ACCOUNT!?

anybody? :(

Ok, here's the reply. You will not get your accounts back. Your method of trying to sell has contravened ebay practices.

Please note nothing I say is personal but my opinion.

You made fundamental errors with what you sold.
You made an error by thinking other sellers doing the same meant you would be OK.

There is hardly a company within the USA that will allow its image to be on an item without their rights being contravened. You did not ascertain that before selling.

Drop shipping at an amount like was so risky. I can not imagine where the idea came from. Actually I can. I'm thinking you were hoping to make a little money quickly and did not research better.

Now this is personal, I am gutted for you because you were naive. Your posts are showing that you dont know much about ebay in the 1st place. What can you do? I'm not sure right now. It's complex & I prefer taking time to work on complex issues.
Before you do anything, and I mean anything, read more of the forum to see the posts of other users. Then you will get a better idea.
I am sorry:pry:

Thanks, that's fair enough greenbean..

Now I'm just scared. I made a stupid effort to email the manager of trust and saftey and the CEO of ebay...now Im worried if I might get charged for selling counterfiet even though I had no idea that it was counterfietting or illegal to sell..I would never do something illegal just for some cash.

I never thought its ok to do something illegal if others are doing, I simply thought since ebay is allowing them, it must be legal to sell these iphone cases. I myself do not have much knowledge on trademarks etc. I thought it wouldn't be an issue since it's like advertising for them?

now what I am more worried for is being charged, after doing some research i realize how it was wrong...but ive already mailed them..and scared they might get on my case..as well as the money im out too..all this because of being naive :(

I think you are going to have to just roll with this as a lesson learned.

Like Greenbean said there is so much to look at with your case being all over the place we will have to decipher it all and get back on here. Just stop now though. you need to read these forums as mentioned. Learn how to use ebay. It sounds as if you have never used it before since you say to have never known about fraudulent items and have sold them for so long. seems odd to me.

I will take a look and post again later..... I think now you are going to just have to sit tight and watch those cases close on you. The account is gone now. If paypal took the money and also they are refunding. You will get the money back but not right away. They are not going to refund twice.

Well, I have been using ebay for a long time. Have sold things here and there. Lately, I wanted to get back into it. I thought that selling iPhone cases with logos on them was not "illegal" as many many cell shops, malls etc. sell them (mall booths)

I sold it for a week before this happened. As I've stated they are banning me for copyright infringement or whatever. I had no idea that is what it was considered. I'm against the taught of selling counterfiet items. Even the buyers KNEW they were not manfuactured by these companies.. Like I said, ferrari does not make iPhone cases...so I didn't think it was wrong.. I actually thought since malls sell it it must be legal and it's like free advertising for them..anyways...

So my concern now is, buyers opening claims/disputes for item not recieved..do I have a chance of winning if i prove delivery? Otherwise, if the money in the PP account starts decreasing, it will start going into negatives and try to pull out from my bank account. Because total sales apprx. $4500..I made a fraction of that..but if all buyers file claims..it will start to take the profit that i made plus money that I actually paid for the cases and shipping etc...this is where my real concern lies...

cancel your direct debit agreement with pp,that way they will not be able to take money from your account

you should message the buyers,tell them not to worry,the goods are on their way

hopefully they will all be decent human beings and understand your recent plight

don`t worry about contacting eb,the account is gone

you may just draw attention to yourself

loads of sellers past and present,have sold counterfeit items,dropshipped them too,so your one of many,nothing to worry about there imo,keep a low profile

like i said anyways,email the buyers,communicate,don`t sound panicky,just explain and sound like you care,most buyers will show compassion as long as you show that you are a genuine seller who has fallen on hard times with ppal & eb ay

all the best

Yes. Its hard to hear the first time it happens but your ebay and paypal account are gonna. Also, dont think about opening another account with the details of this account.

Also, the "I didnt know" will never fly. It does not fly in a court of law and wont fly on ebay either. It is the responsibility of the seller to know the rules and regulations, or laws. This will be an expensive lesson. You will survive and you will move on.

Relax..... Take deep breaths and once you come to grips it will not seem as bad.

I hope others have more advice for you.

Good luck!

2 Paypal accounts permanently limited - Can I open 3rd safely?
 

Thought of this which I did not mention before.

Both of my Paypal accounts that were being used for one of my eBay accounts got limited because I got "suspended.."

My question is..Can I open a third one with my legit info just to send and recieve money -- not being used on eBay (at this time) or will I just get limited again?

You MIGHT get away with it to SEND Money,,and ONLY if you do not owe Paypal any money from the other two accounts due to chargebacks or whatever,,,,Chances are Slim at BEST

This sucks.I'm not sure why exactly I was suspended. I got a M0C21 notice...but I remember I had a buyer account 1 year ago suspended due to unpaid item strikes...started selling after 1 year on a buyer account and they suspended me within 1 week of selling high risk items because the transactions totaled about $4500 in about 7 days...and then all my buyer accounts got suspended..i wonder if that was the case? they declined reinstating my accounts as well

Thanks for the replies guys..

How can I cancel my debit card agreement? It wont let me remove my account! Also, I know that they keep it on file forever..but I also have about over 1 grand in there...if I cancel my Debit card...I'll never get that money back?

I won't get collection agency letters that will affect my credit, will I?

I looked into stealth but I'm not sure if that will work for me..I dont have an alternative address and I dont know anyone in town :(
I'm more interested in buying than selling at this point

Wow there is a LOT More to this thread than I Originally Knew about,,,

Now after reading the ENTIRE Thread I can tell you in no Uncertain Terms that you will NEVER be allowed back onto Paypal if they know that it is you,,


------------------------------------COPYRIGHT INFRINGMENT 101----------------------------------------

As for what you sold,,,Well,,,,ANYTIME you see a LOGO on ANYTHING it is ONLY Because that Company ALLOWS it for whatever reason,,,If the Company did NOT allow it,,,well thats Copyright Infrimngment,,,so an Unauthorized Ferrari Logo on an Iphone case,,,is Technically 2 acts of Copyright Infringment,,1) the Logo,,and 2) calling a CELL phone Case an "IPHONE" Case without Apples Say-so,,,

And by the way you WOULD Know,,,your supplier would Call those Cases "AUTHORIZED FERRARI IPHONE Cases",,,and do you Know why,,,Because your supplier would be Paying more money for those Cases, so he would have to sell them for More,,so YOU could sell them for more,,,,

Let me ask you this how would you feel if,,,lets say Dolce and Gabbanna was able to get a Random Picture of you say at the Beach wearing a pair of Their D&G Sunglasses,,,and Because you are so GORGEOUS with those Glases on they sell a MILLION Pairs of them because of YOUR Picture,,,and you do NOT GET A DIME,,,How would feel?

Thats how Apple and Ferrari Look at it,,,Right, Wrong or Indifferent that is Just the Way it is,,,


Here Endeth the Lesson,,,,

Good Luck,,

Slapped

thanks slapped I totally see how it was wrong now, never thought of it that way. I havent been in the selling business that much so I had no idea...I just dont see how they wont give you another chance..obviously there are people who dont know, who thinks its okay since all of ebay sells it..like iphone cases are everywhere even without any logos..that means its illegal to sell them too?

sigh..

Id be happy just with a buyer account right now

Well Technically they Cannot be Called "IPhone" Cases,,,,But,,,

Calling it a Case for your Iphone is Ok,,,,I Know,,,Sounds Crazy,,,,Whats the Difference?,,,,the Law Says that there IS a Difference,,,

The Law also says that "Ignorance of the Law is NO Excuse to Break the Law"

In Other words,,If you are going to sell it you better know that it is Ok to sell,,,

As for a Ebay,,,F*CK EM,,,Because they do NOT Believe in second Chances,,I have had the Privelige of Corresponding with and meeting some of you fine Folks here on this forum,,(HA,,,)

Just some info that might be useful.

I tried to put a stop to paypal pulling from my bank and the ONLY way I could do it is if I knew the exact amount that was going to be pulled and the date.

I also had to pay $40 to do it. When paypal tried to pull it they tried $5 more than I thought they were and got screwed. Paypal still got to pull it and I got the overdraft charge as well as had to pay the $40 top BOA for the blocking of the transaction.

Check with your bank 1st on this as it will bite you baaaaaad.. Just an FYI.

everything you are doing on your ebay account is wrong and will only cause problems.....

1. drop shipping
2. using brand names even if they are not made by that brand, you are still using their brand
3. selling anything "iphone"
4. selling internationally will lead to more and more problems
5. you are in a brand name, vero, high risk category

All this added up, would lead to hell sooner or later

Regardless of what you know or do not know you do have an obligation to find out how to sell correctly AND how to buy correctly. You can not breeze thro' life without taking some responsibility. 'The little girl I dont know card' lets our side done. It's manipulative.:doh:

Unpaid strikes on a buyer's account, limited paypal would suggest you need to work out exactly how to do this ebay business. Or find another platform.

As 'orrible as ebay/paypal are, they have reasons for their rules. Get learning them.:amen:

You had previous accounts suspended? It sounds like you already had second chances...

I am pretty sure you can create another account... a buyers account and ebay wont mess with you. I never had an account get suspended in buyers only mode. Others might know more about that and chime in.

Why couldn't you just have closed your bank account? Tell them you lost you debit card and check book which had your online account info in it.

Well, technically..I had my first account suspended for unpaid item strikes because it was christmas time..was buying a lot of things and then sellers would not reply..so i was moving at the time as well and forgot about the items and then got suspended...stupid move i know..i was a noob..

then i made a buyer account few months ago and bought an item..got suspended out of no where..with no explanation or anything...now i started selling on my other buyer account.. and all 4 other acounts went down at the same time..they even sent a mc021 notice to my old suspended accounts email..and all others suspended with mc021 and it even said in the email i can appeal to this suspension too..

so yeah.. thats the story

Look, Some of us here might have been the sellers who busted our guts to get your items to you. And you 'forgot' because of x y or x reasons. Using ebay is a 3 way thing: seller & buyer and big brother (ebay). You appear to have NO concepts.:doh:
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(Must block ALL sales to Canada in future)

@GB, don't hate sales to Canada - /holds back on harsh =P

I hate foreign buyers because of the customs forms and not being able get tracking or delivery confirmation without spending a lot of money. However, with the American dollar so low, they are now nearly 40% of my sales.

Ahhhhhh,,,,The Plot Thickens,,,,,,So Let me get this Straight you had (As far as I can tell from this) 2 Buyers accounts and AT LEAST 5 Sellers accounts,,,,and earlier in this Thread you came out sounding as some kind of,,,,as you Put it here,,,,a "NOOB"

Now what slowly has come to light is that you have had AT LEAST 7 Accounts.

Thats seems to be a Little Dis-Honest,,No?,,,, So why the Game?,,,

Now ANYONE that has had AT LEAST 5 Seller Accounts go Down is a VERY Experienced Seller who KNOWS ALL About Copyright Infringment,,,and PLEASE Do NOT come back and insult my intelligence by saying that this was the First account that you lost Via an Infringment Violation,,,,we ALL KNOW that 99% of ALL Suspensions are a result of Copyright Infringment,,,

Now this Beg a Question,,,,,,What do you Really want to Know?

How to AVOID that Violation?,,,Maybe you want to Know what to sell to Avoid a V.E.R.O. Violation?,,,,Well you will NEVER Get an Answer to that question Here I GUARANTEE it,,,

The LAST Thing that Ebay Needs is yet another Seller selling that chinese Counterfeit GARBAGE,,,,

Any other Dark secrets that you wish to share?

actually, they were hongkong sellers who would not reply/send invoice or update the shipping costs as stated...the items i was buying were in bulk so 50 - 100 + i would pay in bulk usually and they ended up not replying..not my fault.

Damn you guys are acting pretty snippy.

No, so let me set this straight. I was planning on doing business on ebay while still learning what to sell. I made several accounts to build feedback. First account was a buyer account..and sold things here and there (not as a business just things I had owned)..I bought a lot of things during christmas time/moving time..tried to contact sellers for invoices because I was buying items in bulk and they did not reply. this ended up in unpaid item strikes on my account

now...several months after i thought id try selling iPhone accessories and found a supplier..i used my other buyer account with good feedback to sell these cases, then i got suspended within 7 days..


So this was actually my REAL first seller account. Id only sold things here and there before, not as a business. Hope that makes sense now..I dont want to be bashed

I actually sold regular iphone cases as well and accessories..So I did not think that selling an item with a logo was considered an infringement of vero or whatever. All the accounts were buyer accounts , as i had stated earlier and they took all my BUYER accounts down along with this seller account

PS: Take a look at your ps3 console or your iphone..where is it made? CHINA...So basically everything we own is chinese garbage BTW....................

hooray for guest checkout

Hooray for THREAD CLOSING too.

tbf, you sound like a troll

This is the only thing you have said here that is NOT YOUR FAULT.:juggle: