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djmuggs 05-28-2008 01:40 PM

Sell counterfeits on EBAY and you will be suspended
 
Been following this ebay powerseller's status for about a month now and i even found the exact supplier she gets from (illegal chinese dvd copier company) and after a full year of selling dvd set boxs she was finally banned.
i dont know how thou, i mean shes a powerseller and has been reged since 02'.

if you look at her completed listings she was taking in about $1000-1500 a day in illegal dvds... lol

some of those she mad 400% profit on ... wow

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Complete ER series on this supplier website is 50$ she sold one for 300..

It just makes you wonder, if these powersellers are this untrustworthy.. how are they staying on ebay for SOOO long . you can see by her feedback that people complained that they were ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

but seriously, how can a powerseller and registered user for 5 years get banned for like 3 negatives???? how does that happen

yogarelax 05-28-2008 04:21 PM

Dumb question: how do you recognize a ⊗⊗⊗⊗? I have " bargined " for plenty of "rolex " watches in New York. but that was obvious.

jscan 05-28-2008 08:23 PM

him/her feedback is pretty pro, its practically unblemished except for a couple here and there. Maybe it wasnt to do with there feedback but most likely some sort of violation or failure to pay there fee's

There are PLENTY of people making money illegally on eBay by selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗/counterfeits.

doughboykilla 05-28-2008 11:15 PM

where do u buy these illegal chinese dvds seems they are alot better then burned dvds and look more realistc

jscan 05-28-2008 11:40 PM

you've never got those spam emails from those Chinese people with poor spelling offering to sell you every dvd that was ever created or a range of nike, jordan shoes?

i get those spam emails almost every day in my filter. other then that im guess google?, dhgate, or ask djmuggs

imjustme 05-29-2008 02:07 AM

I once bought a counterfeit camera in Hong Kong. It actually took better resolution photos than the real one.

mantisinc 05-29-2008 01:32 PM

I know of so many powersellers selling counterfiet goods, most of which all of their customers are extremely happy with their purchases.

There are some Chinese electronics that really are great quality.

djmuggs 05-29-2008 02:52 PM

Like i said in another post, i use to sell counterfeit bose earphones on a friends account. Youd be able to buy 100 dollar earphones on ebay for like 50 bucks and get just as good quality product.

Chinese counterfeiting is getting sooo good that even the boxes the product come in are authentic, the letters/manuals are, and they even come with serial numbers that can be activated on the companies website.

But, I feel this is a MAIN reason ebay is tightening their grip on vero items.... If u ATTEMPT to sell more then 5 pairs of these you will be hunted down by bose corp within days and be requested to send them your inventory for inspection....

As for the dvds, some of the set-boxes i cant see being vero items.. Like say "Complete Charmed Series Seasons 1-8" or whatever... that title doesnt have a company brand name or anything... why would that be removed.???

well, when i turn 18 in june and turn my account i made last month into a sellers account i will try to sell these for massive profit... but i'll let you guys know if it works and if it does i may be willing to give the supplier's websites and wholesale lists... but as of now i cannot give their website out just yet.

imjustme 05-29-2008 02:53 PM

I've bought counterfeits before. If you know where to shop then you can get great deals. But be careful, some are crap quality.

My wife has a two identical Louis Vuitton handbags (don't ask me why), one authentic costing $1000 from France, the other a copy from China costing $40. I can't tell them apart even when touching them.

mantisinc 05-29-2008 03:55 PM

I find selling counterfeits to dodgey. It's not worth the hastle that could hit you.

411guru 05-29-2008 04:37 PM

Beware of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ iphones, itouch etc. Though the quality may be good, the batteries then to suck. They explode. This one guy who bought a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ replacement battery for his cellphone, it exploded and killed him. He kept his phone in this shirt pocket.

As for the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ dvd sets, she must have been selling really good copies and no one could tell the difference. My guess is some of her customers who know their stuff, reported her and got her suspended.

I am currently on ioffer and let me tell you, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ dvd sets sell extremely well there. Even the customers knows its ⊗⊗⊗⊗ but don't care.

yogarelax 05-29-2008 05:22 PM

Dear imjustem:
Now that I have stopped laughing , I will TRY to explain the handbag "situation". {.I am assuming you are a newlywed. }
This is how we operate , there can NEVER be too many of a good thing. Why do I have 36 black skirts? Six { 6} complete sets of dishes with linens to match? probably 12 wintercoats with gloves and handbags to match ?, TONS of matching lingerie...The list goes on and on. I NEED these things so I can operate in my daily life. Simple as that.
And yes, I control the closet situation, assinging space,etc.

jscan 05-30-2008 02:02 AM

I know of a great supplier, there copies are amazing, not like the crap you pick up on the streets. they constantly make copies of all the major designer brands as per new season releases. Amazingly enough they even come with all the necessary certificates, tags, cards, care booklets, i wonder how the Chinese copy these as well ?

By saying this i do not support nor condone counterfeiting and i am not selling any counterfiet items here on this forum nor on ebay.

GreenBean 05-30-2008 02:43 AM

I was told that some of the factories in China produce the genuine item, change some patterns etc, and produce excellent copies at lower prices. There was something in the media a couple of years ago where Nike had troubles.

411guru 05-30-2008 10:03 AM

Yeah thats right,

Big companies like Nike have their factories in China. Those factories are not owned by Nike but rather, licensed to produce shoes for them. Then some of the factories, having material and knowledge on how to produce the real ones, make "⊗⊗⊗⊗" real ones on the side for themselves. Since this cuts out the producer, (Nike) there are no more licensing fees involved and they can sell it cheaper. In college I learned about the supply chain of manufacture and I remember that $150 Nike shoes cost only $20 to produce.

imjustme 05-30-2008 11:21 AM

I remember when Modee flamed, grilled and barbecued me a while back because I said that I got some of my eBay items through a factory "backdoor". That's exactly what it is. I could get real Nike shoes (which I never sold, shoes are too much work) in China from the same factory that produces the actual shoes you buy in the Nike shops in Los Angeles or Seattle. Same quality, same everything. Even down to the tags, labels and box. I'm quite sure Nike knows about it, but they won't close their own factory where they produce the shoes for $10 (not joking) or less that they later sell for $150 in their shops. And Nike is just an example, the same thing goes for many other brands. Of course there are also sellers of cheap copies, but some copies come from the same factory as the originals.

yogarelax 05-30-2008 05:03 PM

50 years ago when my sis & I went to the university of Colorado in Boulder. Believe it or not... we worked in a "factory" { i cannot even remember the name of it,small one} that made ladies clothes, that is correct. Right here in the USA. We would produce,say, 200 hundred dresses, BUT when it came time to sew in labels, guess what???. 50 had a macys label, 50 had a sears label. etc, the point being, we made the exact same dress just sewed in different labels and off they went. Actually it was ski clothes that we made. Egads that was long ago, BUT i DO remember the label part!!!

mantisinc 05-30-2008 05:26 PM

There are a lot of places online selling factory goods, which when you receive them, they are genuine.

I've sent off items to both JBL and Sennheiser and they have confirmed to be genuine. Obviously I didn't tell them they were from China, otherwise they would probably have said right off their were ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

But it's possible to get the real deal at extreme discounts, you just have to know the right people that source them for you.

It's one thing selling products thats have been "sourced" away from the rights owner, that are still identical, and another selling blatent ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

djmuggs 05-30-2008 07:26 PM

yeah i bought a pair of nike dunks off ebay... 8 months later the shoe has its own tongue and is falling apart.

to bad i found out they were ⊗⊗⊗⊗ to late to file dispite =(

John14789 06-21-2008 06:13 PM

I bought a pair of jordan 4 and they ripped up after my cousin wore them for 3-4 months. I really dont like ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff gets you in trouble selling it and makes you lose lots of money.

highwhey 06-21-2008 06:32 PM

That's why you buy authentic J's. I do. At Solecollector.net forums, there's tons of authentic J's. You'll never find people selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗ shoes that site.

John14789 06-21-2008 09:39 PM

Ill try it but I just started buying chuck taylor converse nice shoes I gotta admit goes very well with jeans and a lacoste/ralph lauren polo. I just usually wear lacoste and ralph lauren and nothin else. How many jordans you got?

highwhey 06-21-2008 09:45 PM

Just a few here and there...lol. I have a 6 pairs, 4's, 20's, 23's, 18's, 11's & 2's. When I was a lot younger I'd spend my entire paycheck on these kicks.

OMB 06-22-2008 07:43 AM

Really? because when I was in middle school I used to wonder how some kids would always have new J's. Now that I'm older I buy Jordans on the regular. I think it has alot to do with the child in me wanting to be that kid with the fresh kicks. psychology i tell ya...

John14789 06-22-2008 05:46 PM

When I was a kid my parents would buy me the new jordans but once i wore them for a year i would throw it away but i really shouldnt have because those jordans are worth something now. i have the 22 and thats about it with jordans. i do really want to get the 4,5,7. you guys know of any website selling authentic j's?

i really want to get a louis vuitton double fold wallet. it cost about $300 in saks. you guys have one?

doughboykilla 06-22-2008 07:35 PM

if im not mistaken nikes are made in sweat shops just like the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ones

HairyOldEbayer 06-22-2008 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imjustme (Post 43391)
Nike won't close their own factory where they produce the shoes for $10 (not joking) or less that they later sell for $150 in their shops.

Well, I would say even less than $10 in materials but who's counting at $150 retail.

It galls me beyond belief that some of these companies are so up in arms, running around like the proverbial chicken with its head chopped off, about "counterfeits" getting past the guards of the kingdom while at the same time employing 8 year old children working 16-18 hours a day at 7 cents per hour forced to live in the company housing, pay rent to the company for their housing and buy their daily food from the company store at inflated prices.

Ah...yes...if you are not aware of what is happening then it's perfectly ok. Yes, that's the spirit.

Say thank-you to all the workers in Vietnam that made that 75 quid shoe possible. Yea, on the lower left that's the bathroom/shower. A hole in the ground serving 70 people in the dorm you squat over to do your business.

http://i30.tinypic.com/23lysso.jpg

All so some punter in London can shell out 75-100 quid for a pair of shoes that cost 3 quid or less to make advertised by an grossly overpaid has been sports star.

BTW, guess what the yearly amount paid to that grossly overpaid sports star is and then guess what the amount of money paid to all the workers in all the 700+ factories combined is.



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greg2414 06-22-2008 09:11 PM

Crazy isnt it!

2001kx 06-22-2008 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Modee (Post 46717)
The ⊗⊗⊗⊗ that fall apart, and are not as good as the real thing are out there. The ones sold out the back door that are supposedly genuine, I've heard about it...no one has yet to show me an actual product.

For example Louis Vuitton, I've examined some of the stuff my girlfriend has. It is certainly absurdly expensive (although she has this Burberry runway purse that cost more than any single LV purse of hers), but the quality control is amazing. Every stitch, perfect. No flaws, no issues, at least on the purses and wallets I have seen. Then you look at the ⊗⊗⊗⊗, of which there are plenty. Just junk compared to the real Louis.

i used to work in a leather tannery and we made the leather for Louis Vuitton.
was a pain in the ass as it had to be perfect and no fingerprints either.
was hard to work with it.

411guru 06-22-2008 11:32 PM

LV is done know. I mean you buy LV because its expensive and no one has it and you want to show off. Now every one who drives a 1988 Chevy Nova has one. It devalues the brand significantly. Who wants one when any ghetto mama has one?

John14789 06-23-2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doughboykilla (Post 46803)
if im not mistaken nikes are made in sweat shops just like the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ones

Yeah they are made in sweatshops but are made with more better material. What the chinese do when they make ⊗⊗⊗⊗ shoes is thry get the original mold of the shoe and put crappy material to then make the shoe.

djmuggs 06-23-2008 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HairyOldEbayer (Post 46833)

http://i30.tinypic.com/23lysso.jpg

All so some punter in London can shell out 75-100 quid for a pair of shoes that cost 3 quid or less to make advertised by an grossly overpaid has been sports star.

BTW, guess what the yearly amount paid to that grossly overpaid sports star is and then guess what the amount of money paid to all the workers in all the 700+ factories combined is.



.



awww...



The ruthlessness of american business industry. Well, we cant be walking around barefoot can we??

411guru 06-24-2008 01:50 AM

This is a way to maximize profit for Nike. If they can get away with it, I say more power to them.

imthatguy 07-02-2008 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djmuggs (Post 43503)
yeah i bought a pair of nike dunks off ebay... 8 months later the shoe has its own tongue and is falling apart.

to bad i found out they were ⊗⊗⊗⊗ to late to file dispite =(

well were you wearing them everyday. 8 months is usually the normal lifespan of a shoe

411guru 07-02-2008 12:39 PM

I have a pair of new balance that I wear everyday, and its 3 years old.

memphis 07-02-2008 01:31 PM

Well it depends on what your doing when you wear the shoe. If you play basketball twice a week in them they will get more worn in 8 mons than if your wearing them in front of the computer and to the post office for 3 years.

jerkyboy1 07-03-2008 05:17 PM

lol thats true. its all about how they are used and how much wear and tear you put them through. I have shoes that are 4 years old and like new because I wear them casually and always keep them clean. On the other hand, my brother goes through a pair of expensive brand name shoes every 8 weeks because he just doesn't care and doesn't take of his belongings.

oompaloompa 08-01-2008 02:57 PM

vero - i have now edited listing ut have questions
 
Got vero take down on item, e-bay said it was requested by rights owner, so they have their eye on me now (even though lots of other people are still going) . edited down so no name on picture and script doesnt say named its a named brand but says its exactly like the named brand. (is that ok!) although it has the same look packaging etc in picture. It means far fewer people will see it due to title and it risks not getting business but id rather keep my account. Will vero buy one and proscecute or can my account, as when it is recieved wll have brand written all over it. What happens when you get a question about item asking if its that brand or not- i have not replied so far but it could be vero tricking me - how do you play it.


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