MC999 ID Verify: is it still happening in January as well?

[zoneout]

Originally Posted by Sandy D

I have accounts 3-5 months old and just listed my first item. My limits are 20/1500 30/2000 etc. when most get 100/1000 or less on new accounts.

Sandy, this contradicts the general consensus here that you have to max out your selling limit every month in order to get increases starting in month 3.

Are you sure about that? If so it is good news for a change.

[slapped]

Originally Posted by zoneout

Seems like eb stopped doling out automatic mc999s. Anybody get one last 3 days?

Yea I got one Today,,,Hard as hell,,,They even asked what color my 2003 Ford Escape was,,I passed though,,,not sure how,,,but I did

[mastaflappa]

Originally Posted by zoneout

so from what i gather from masta and sandy aged buyer accounts do not get mc999 even if something is listed immediately after turning it into seller acct. wonder what the magic aging is.... 3 months?

No even on new accounts less than a week old I sell band new dvds on 10 accounts at a time, at the most I get 1-3 mc999 and sometimes not even 1 out of 10 and that's a fact not heresay which you'll here alot of around here.

One thing you'll find in common around here is you'll here alot of people talk about what they heard alot of people said from what they heard other people said,

that doesn't fly too well, I usually only talk about what I actually did and the results that came from it, the ones that worked, that's something you can put your trust in.

[Roscoe]

Originally Posted by Mr2005

really, why would it not work?

It's name is "Call Capture." Many companies use it, especially finanacial companies.

[zoneout]

Originally Posted by mastaflappa

No even on new accounts less than a week old I sell band new dvds on 10 accounts at a time, at the most I get 1-3 mc999 and sometimes not even 1 out of 10 and that's a fact not heresay which you'll here alot of around here.

One thing you'll find in common around here is you'll here alot of people talk about what they heard alot of people said from what they heard other people said,

that doesn't fly too well, I usually only talk about what I actually did and the results that came from it, the ones that worked, that's something you can put your trust in.

I`m just trying to come up with the common denominator for what triggers these mc999 verify new acct. I believe your experiences - it just seems hard to conceive that these notices are blind luck (or lack thereof).

[balzac]

Originally Posted by slapped

Yea I got one Today,,,Hard as hell,,,They even asked what color my 2003 Ford Escape was,,I passed though,,,not sure how,,,but I did

Well I noticed that too that sometimes you can say whatever you want and pass through. Sometimes I think that they haven't all details what they are asking for. The main point is no doubt when answering, I guess.

[turkeyhunt]

Hmmm.... I really do think its up to chance bc so much depends on the rep you get at ebay when you call. For example. I had several stealths receive mc999 so I called.

Stealth 1: Called, the rep was super nice, asked me some questions, passed it, automatically reinstated and increased my selling limit to 100/5000 without me asking

Stealth 2: Called, rep was polite, asked questions, passed, reinstated. then increased my selling to 50/3500 without me asking

stealth 3: called, rep was just monotone , asked questions, passed, reinstated. DID Not lift limits ( i acted new and asked what the process was to increase) said I needed 3 months of selling, 25 positive fb, and good selling history.....

.....so if thats the case, then the other two shouldnt have lifted my limits right.. ? like i said, its up to the rep what they do. They have the control on you account.

Stealth 4: called and failed questions. asked to fax doc. so i hung up and called it a loss. I dont do paperwork..

Stealth 5 : didn't receive mc999. had selling limit 10/1000


Keep in mind I was testing a theory of mine on ebay so I made all 5 stealths and turned into seller same day. Then listed the next day...just to see what would happen. And those were my personal results.

Interesting how much power ebay has.... and their rules aren't set in stone neither.

[balzac]

turkeyhunt, it's great! Saddly, I still didn't get any increases of selling limits. Hope to get some.

[Toolman89]

so what did you do differently with Stealth 5?

[turkeyhunt]

Originally Posted by Toolman89

so what did you do differently with Stealth 5?

THats the thing. When I made them, I purposely made them all the same so I could test whether It depended on how soon I started selling etc. I made em the same, browsed the same amount of time. Made into sellers in same time frame on same day. So I am not sure what the difference was.

Not that I mind, bc I tend to be good at the answering questions so to get the limits increased.

[slapped]

Originally Posted by turkeyhunt

THats the thing. When I made them, I purposely made them all the same so I could test whether It depended on how soon I started selling etc. I made em the same, browsed the same amount of time. Made into sellers in same time frame on same day. So I am not sure what the difference was.

Not that I mind, bc I tend to be good at the answering questions so to get the limits increased.

There is NO difference. a LOT of Users here simply do not understand that this is completely RANDOM, it is a SIMPLE numbers game, Ebay has a SPECIFIC Number of employees at their call centers around the world that deal with Idenity Verification, that number of employees can only process a SPECIFIC number of accounts, anything more than that will not get an MC999.
Its really that simple.

Many Users here are looking for some sort of "magic formula" that as long as they follow it it will work. That formula does NOT exist.

Here is you BEST formula: Prepare your accounts as BEST you can, and if you get hit with an MC99 have as much information as you possible can available at your fingertips, and be as "elusive" as possible with those questions that you cannot anwser, and hope for the best

Believe me if Ebay could afford to, EVERY account would get an MC999 Verification

[mastaflappa]

Originally Posted by zoneout

I`m just trying to come up with the common denominator for what triggers these mc999 verify new acct. I believe your experiences - it just seems hard to conceive that these notices are blind luck (or lack thereof).

It has more to do with what you sell, I've sold on 10 accounts at a time many times, it's only when I sell low risk items, that I get 1-3 mc999 and sometmes 0 out of 10,

but when I sell an item known for being bootlegged, like say disney dvds then almost all of them get mc999, either way these are all on accounts with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ addresses and I list straight off with 0 fb.

[fingerblast]

Originally Posted by slapped

There is NO difference. a LOT of Users here simply do not understand that this is completely RANDOM, it is a SIMPLE numbers game, Ebay has a SPECIFIC Number of employees at their call centers around the world that deal with Idenity Verification, that number of employees can only process a SPECIFIC number of accounts, anything more than that will not get an MC999.
Its really that simple.

Many Users here are looking for some sort of "magic formula" that as long as they follow it it will work. That formula does NOT exist.

Here is you BEST formula: Prepare your accounts as BEST you can, and if you get hit with an MC99 have as much information as you possible can available at your fingertips, and be as "elusive" as possible with those questions that you cannot anwser, and hope for the best

Believe me if Ebay could afford to, EVERY account would get an MC999 Verification

Indeed. They could absolutely care less about their sellers. I've been on the phone with them numerous times over the past 3 weeks since this nonsense started and it is apparent that they could give a crap less about us.

[hapajenn1]

Originally Posted by turkeyhunt

Stealth 1: Called, the rep was super nice, asked me some questions, passed it, automatically reinstated and increased my selling limit to 100/5000 without me asking

Stealth 2: Called, rep was polite, asked questions, passed, reinstated. then increased my selling to 50/3500 without me asking

stealth 3: called, rep was just monotone , asked questions, passed, reinstated. DID Not lift limits ( i acted new and asked what the process was to increase) said I needed 3 months of selling, 25 positive fb, and good selling history.....

.....so if thats the case, then the other two shouldnt have lifted my limits right.. ? like i said, its up to the rep what they do. They have the control on you account.

Stealth 4: called and failed questions. asked to fax doc. so i hung up and called it a loss. I dont do paperwork..

Stealth 5 : didn't receive mc999. had selling limit 10/1000

when you say you never do paperwork -- then how do you get past the PP restrictions? like when they ask for drivers ID, utility bill etc.

also lets say your stealth address is in NY then do you make sure to call from an area code thats based in NY? This is why I dislike calling and prefer emails.

[zoneout]

Originally Posted by turkeyhunt

Hmmm.... I really do think its up to chance bc so much depends on the rep you get at ebay when you call. For example. I had several stealths receive mc999 so I called.

Stealth 1: Called, the rep was super nice, asked me some questions, passed it, automatically reinstated and increased my selling limit to 100/5000 without me asking

Stealth 2: Called, rep was polite, asked questions, passed, reinstated. then increased my selling to 50/3500 without me asking

@turkeyhunt, if you dont mind me asking, are you female? I think that may be why you got the gift increases.

[vogeltron]

Lets all be honest. Today you have to start slow to get a stealth account going. It takes 3-4 months to get your limits raised and stay under the radar. That includes getting good feedback, etc. Keeping everything in good standing. Those who get limited are impatient. Patience is a virtue. You have to treat each new account like a newborn child and baby it along.

[slapped]

Originally Posted by vogeltron

Lets all be honest. Today you have to start slow to get a stealth account going. It takes 3-4 months to get your limits raised and stay under the radar. That includes getting good feedback, etc. Keeping everything in good standing. Those who get limited are impatient. Patience is a virtue. You have to treat each new account like a newborn child and baby it along.

it is REFRESHING to see that every once in a while,,somebody really GETS IT,,,,you WILL go far I assure you

[turkeyhunt]

Originally Posted by hapajenn1

when you say you never do paperwork -- then how do you get past the PP restrictions? like when they ask for drivers ID, utility bill etc.

also lets say your stealth address is in NY then do you make sure to call from an area code thats based in NY? This is why I dislike calling and prefer emails.

I normally don't do that. I have done so in the past, but found that it was pretty pointless. I normally dont get hit with paypal restrictions unless I get too greedy...

If I get one limited, I normally just call back to pp after 45 days for an early release of the money in there as long as its not over $750

And I make all my stealths live in my general area, so I can call them -- I also keep my numbers active for that purpose

[turkeyhunt]

Originally Posted by vogeltron

Lets all be honest. Today you have to start slow to get a stealth account going. It takes 3-4 months to get your limits raised and stay under the radar. That includes getting good feedback, etc. Keeping everything in good standing. Those who get limited are impatient. Patience is a virtue. You have to treat each new account like a newborn child and baby it along.

I don't agree. I would say that out of the ones that I call on - I act like a newbie and ask about the selling limits .Since I passed their identity questions, I can raise them instantly on the phone and my accounts have no problems (like 75%, the other 25% stay the same)

Generally speaking, all you have to do is find the method that works for you. Some find it working to take it slow, others take it right off the back and do just fine.

I would agree about getting greedy-- and even though I raise my limits I still make sure to not do too much thru paypal too fast.

I tend to not have much patience :\ ... so it backfires sometime, but most of the time it works.

[turkeyhunt]

Originally Posted by zoneout

@turkeyhunt, if you dont mind me asking, are you female? I think that may be why you got the gift increases.

I am female.. so I make my stealths all female and have a super nice voice on the phone when talking- politeness is key.

THough when a friend of mine calls on his, he tends to get good luck with the female ebay reps lol So he just hangs up and calls back if its a male

[Alison]

Originally Posted by turkeyhunt

Hmmm.... I really do think its up to chance bc so much depends on the rep you get at ebay when you call. For example. I had several stealths receive mc999 so I called.

Stealth 1: Called, the rep was super nice, asked me some questions, passed it, automatically reinstated and increased my selling limit to 100/5000 without me asking

Stealth 2: Called, rep was polite, asked questions, passed, reinstated. then increased my selling to 50/3500 without me asking

stealth 3: called, rep was just monotone , asked questions, passed, reinstated. DID Not lift limits ( i acted new and asked what the process was to increase) said I needed 3 months of selling, 25 positive fb, and good selling history.....

.....so if thats the case, then the other two shouldnt have lifted my limits right.. ? like i said, its up to the rep what they do. They have the control on you account.

Stealth 4: called and failed questions. asked to fax doc. so i hung up and called it a loss. I dont do paperwork..

Stealth 5 : didn't receive mc999. had selling limit 10/1000


Keep in mind I was testing a theory of mine on ebay so I made all 5 stealths and turned into seller same day. Then listed the next day...just to see what would happen. And those were my personal results.

Interesting how much power ebay has.... and their rules aren't set in stone neither.

Thank you, your message is really helpfull.

I got a MC999 yesterday, I called today and after 4 call I found the right person and my ebay account is not limited anymore.

I was calling from Guatemala so the reception was really bad, I'm french so when I speak english I've a strong french accent, I was suppose to be 57 years old and I'm 23^^

First call: Can't hear nothing, after few question (that I was not able to hear) the person told me that I failed the test and that I need to try again, I gave up.

Second call: Can't hear nothing again, I gave up after 3 minutes.

Third call: Finally, I can hear the person I'm talking with. She asked me about my security social number, I gave up.

Fourth call: Very nice person, a women who asked me before my name how I was doing (I think that told a lot, if the person is not friendly she will never ask you a stuff like that). After few question about my selling she unrestriced my account. I said that it was a error of me to sell new product and that I was selling used product actually, she take me a little for a idiot and explain to me how to edit my add... This is really a good move to said that it was a error of you to list new product.

For this 4 calls, 14$US ^^ But I won!

I think that it's not possible to don't have your account back with a MC999; you just need to try again and again to found the right person.

Thank you again, this tread help me a lot!

[hapajenn1]

Originally Posted by Alison

I got a MC999 yesterday, I called today and after 4 call I found the right person and my ebay account is not limited anymore.


For this 4 calls, 14$US ^^ But I won!

I think that it's not possible to don't have your account back with a MC999; you just need to try again and again to found the right person.

Thank you again, this tread help me a lot!

good to know, next time if hit with MC999 ill keep in mind. didn't know you can keep failing the phone conversation test, and that PP won't even flag you for that.