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That doesn't sound good. I hope you get you account lifted. It seems like Paypal and eBay are now starting to work together better. Which isn't good for... lots of people.

hope you get your account back. thats why i say "screw paypal" , I don't deal with them and don't want to.

i'm so happy to have my merchant account

Hey Modee,

I mentioned this in one of the other threads, paypal and Ebay are now talking to one another! This is apparent when you do not have your accounts linked but you try to list an item and use the "require immediate payment"... It seems ebay reaches out to PP and sees if your account is a premier or a business account which is required to take that immediate payment. If not then you can not list it that way and ebay tells you what type of account you have.

Also, FYI People ....
Ebay is now checking phone numbers! I heard from a friend of a friend who works in trust and safety that ebays new system check dials the phone numbers listed and those returned as disconnected or not a number ebay is going to end auctions and ask you to verify your number.
The way to verify the number is thru a "pin" number that they will give you when you allow them to call the number. Now if you have a voicemail service this is ok as they will leave the "pin" number and then you can enter it later.
It seems this is all computerized, meaning no human contact, just random computer calls and computer voices for "pin" numbers.

Also, I was told that Ebay has plans for the following:
1) Requiring all new members to register with a credit card.
2) Requiring Selling accounts to have a bank account on file as well, sort of like how PP checks to verify you.
3) All new accounts will not be able to list an item for sale for 30 days. (I guess this is their way of preventing you from reregistering when your account is kicked and start selling again)
And the biggest one of all... Are you ready.....You are gonna love it!!!!!
4) Requiring all selling accounts to provide a SS# or Business Tax ID #

Get ready for some heavy times in the future.... My advice to everyone here is if you think 1 back up account is good enough.. well you are wrong. As with other things they have done in the past maybe you can get grandfathered in with the accounts, but I think eventually that will end as well.

FeeBay,

If you have a friend of a friend who works at eBay T&S...maybe we could all put together some kind of 'offer'?

The "30 days" thing definitely has weight when it comes to reasons for suspension. But like all the other 'traps', its 'iffy', until another 'iffy' factor matches then they're exponentially less 'iffy', ans so on.

I'm currently experimenting with several accounts, one day I'll know for sure...kinda, what the reason is for detection/suspension.

Another tip: Maybe already in the forum, use Auctiva. I know it can be klunky, but it has a lower risk factor for detection compared to Turbolister or positng ads directly.

So you guys and gals know what that means, get your own website on and poppin quicky. Sales will come just as much as ebay as long as you have a nice friendly user site

I wonder if this would explain why suddenly I'm unable to list using buy it now on less than 10 FB accounts where previously I had no problems. At first I thought it was the deletion of the old linked account that had been there for years. But it might just be the tighter control...and if ebay is reaching out to check for premier accounts, they might just as well be looking for linked accounts too. I'm going to try an experiment and see how it turns out. It would stand to reason that if the problem was created by the deletion of the account, if I re-add that account, maybe the option will return. If it doesn't, it probably means the problem is just caused by the tighter control. Of course, I also run the risk of having the whole account suspended if I try this, but I already have a neg so what the hey...

Likethemapples, I'm still wary about Auctiva's little key that is generated to allow them to host your auction (or pictures). There's got to be some information that is disclosed there, although the problem might be solved just by clearing cookies, which I already do religiously. Have you ever noticed an account being banned out of the blue lately, with no known cause? If so, it might be Auctiva to blame...

Jack ,

Auctiva has nothing to do with a suspension. They don't share any information. If that was the case i would had been had the boot off ebay!

So you're saying that the information they gather when they setup the link between them and ebay can't even be shared if ebay threatens legal action? I'm just thinking of the extreme example of course, but if the information is there, I don't see why ebay couldn't ask for it any time they chose, unless it violates your rights in some way.

In which case I don't see why you would even need to open a new auctiva account and develop new picture links any time you're suspended. But you do that, right?

No Auctiva stated they do not share any information. the token is placed for Auctiva not vice versa on auctiva's site. The token allows auctiva to work in your account on your behalf, thats it.

Actually after I got suspended I used the same auctiva account and picture links. I lasted for about 2 1/2 months. But the only reason i got suspended was my own fault.

Gentlemen,
there is no need to debate the possibility of Paypal & Ebay exchanging information.

Below is a quote from an email sent by PayPal after I got suspended from eBay.

"......
How we share personal information with other parties

We may share your personal information with:
Members of our corporate family (these are companies owned by our parent, eBay Inc., such as Shopping.com or Skype) to help detect and prevent potentially illegal acts, provide joint services and for other business purposes. However, these corporate affiliates will not use this information to market their services to you unless you have approved it.
......"

It's official. It's 100% clear.
On March 10 I got suspended from eBay.
On March 11 Paypal writes to me to remind me of their privacy policies.

What got suspended on March 10 was a backup account, which was connected to a prior suspension in NO OTHER WAY, but through a non-primary email address at PayPal.

And I don't think this sharing is new. It must have been happening since ebay acquired Paypal. One of the goals of acquisition may have been information access, for all I know.

The problem is that nothing stays the same these days any more. Just last year I would have been able to register an account without a credit card (if my email was not from "hotmail" and their likes), now I need a card for everything.

Nothing prevents eBay from "entering an agreement" with auctiva, whereby they exchange some information. If it does happen in the future, we may not discover it except through a horror-story.
In the past few months, ebay's aggressiveness in witch-hunting has skyrocketed.
It's as if there was a new manager in charge of T&S and he was out to prove himself.
Any such manager worth his mettle would also monitor a forum such as this one, right?....

I mean, it only took me 10 seconds of Google-ing to find this forum, and I take it they must be smarter than me...

Modee,
when you say:
"My PP and EBAY accounts are never linked. I mean I never link them - I just enter an email address to receive PP payments into my EBAY auctions. That's it."

When you enter the email address where to receive Paypal payments, I mean, that piece of information sits on an eBay server somewhere.
eBay owns it, and can use it in an investigation.
If eBay asks Paypal to scan their database for this email, it will bring up your PP account, right?
and bingo!, you're linked to it.

I decided to log onto my Yahoo account and give them a try at their auction and here is what came up on their home page for the auction....Guess who they suggest you go with as their auction partner!

Yahoo! Auctions
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* Auctions Home -
* My Auctions -
* Help

Search
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Read more details here
As of June 3, 2007 listings are no longer accepted| As of June 16, 2007 bid/buy are no longer accepted
We are sorry but Yahoo! US Auctions has been retired and is no longer accepting listings or bids.
(If you are recent Y! Auctions seller, bidder or buyer click here for more information)
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You're 100% correct. With time comes change. That's why we have to stay on top of what changes. As a forum which discusses current events and best strategies to keep active in eBay, I feel we have the one up on eBay. They can change as much as they like, and we'll always be able to adapt. Where there is a will, there is a way.

Hi, i live in the UK. ive had 2 ebay accounts previously banned 1 in my name and 1 in my brothers name both living at same address and phone number. i also had my paypal account banned which was in my name and details completely the whole 180 day thing...appealed no luck...no suprise.

im goint to open a new ebay account with dodgey details using the prepaid card and all that.

i also want to open a new paypal account but will i be able to get my brother to open a bank account, create a paypal account and use the same phone number i used on my banned paypal account? will they link his name and my address if i put it on the new paypal account or isit just me that is banned from using paypal at my address and phone number.

other question when i make the ebay account do i put a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ number because ive heard there doing the same verification thing but is this the same in the uk as well.

cheers

Sorry but i put this on both paypal and ebay boards cos its a bit of both lol

I remember the days when the hackers always had a leg-up on DirecTV and the Cable industry, with the de-scramblers and the doctored access cards. It seemed the hackers geniuses would always be a step ahead of DirecTV and I'd get free premiums forever.
Sadly, that ended.

Now I am starting to think that the bast@rds at eBay have totallt gotten the upper hand. I think I might have to use the identity of a dead person, or my 4-year old son, to create a new eBay identity, complete with his SS#, new address, new CC, new eMail, new modem/router, etc.... I'd do it, but I don't want to screw up my son's record.

We need to find an alternative place besides eBay.
I would LOVE to see eBay go the way of Enron...... or Global Crossing, Ford, etc......

Create you own website and you'll be free from eBay forever.

If only it were that easy:(

You still have to drive traffic to it. The one good thing about selling on ebay is that at some time your item will be near the top of the search results just by the nature of when it was listed/ending

With your own site at some point you need to get it near the top of the search page or find another way to drive traffic to it.

In my case I sell a variety of different items that don't fall into a single category so a site would be useless.

Of course we can't create our own site and be that successful.
However, here is a backup plan of mine that I have used temporarily before, and you can to, perhaps.

If your sales are like mine, you have many repeat buyers. I have about 50 people who buy the products again and again. They know me, know my service is flawless, and they trust me. I have their contact information. So when the b@st@rds at eBay shut me down, then I fire up my website @ geocities, and I set it up with PayPal one-step payments. It's actually a blessing sometimes because I don't have to pay the pricks any listing and final value fees. But the monoplolist behemoths still get their cut with the PayPal. I think I am going to now start to offer 100% free shipping with all money order payments.

geocitites is easy as hell to setup, since if I can do it anyone can.

sue (if I may call you that) - Has geocities' offerings improved much?

They used to be considered the "poor man's" website (not just because they're cheap but because the content was often poor too. Poor colors, bad html, constant broken links, page being down, etc.) Many times I've seen them saddled with pop-ups, advertisement runners, strange formatting too -- just not a very professional look. Of course some of that could very well have been the limitations of the creator of the website than the host.

Have you noticed these things I'm speaking of and are they easily remedied with a little knowledge of how to properly do a website? Are all the tools provided, it's just that many don't know how to properly use them?

I can build websites for anyone. if you need one shoot me a note

paypal does coordinate with ebay
 

I would like to give an example of paypal and ebay coordinating their security.
Around 7 months ago, my paypal account was limited. Shortly thereafter my ebay account was restricted. When I communicated with ebay they inquired as to why my paypal account was limited. They then proceeded to describe to me the steps to remove the ebay restrictions for my account.

The simple fact that the rep was aware that my paypal account was limited was enough for me.

It seems that if your paypal is limited and not resolved there is a risk this will prompt ebay to restrict your ebay seller account as well. They are knowledgeable about your paypal status.

Jack, try GoDaddy.com $5 a month hosting service, $10 a year for a domain. Easy stuff!

You can even use FrontPage to create and upload your website. I use Dreamweiver and cuteFTP to handle my sites.

Buy a shopping cart, Google 'shopping cart' and setup your items. The hard part is creating the traffic. It requires work.

But once you have something going, and you continue to work on it, you'll depend less and less on eBay.

Thanks for the tip Aspkin :)

Still curious if geocities has improved though.

ebay and paypal linked for sure now
 

2 times this month alone and never before my paypal account has been limited and ebay shut off with NO NOTICE. They will not even send a notice to inform me of my suspension after emailing everyone of them. They informed me to email ebay@paypal.com sounds weird right? I call paypal from a prepaid the one on my account and they tell me the 2 are seperate and paypal does not shut off ebay accounts. My paypal/ebay accounts were shut down within 5 minutes of each other and this happened on 2 seperate occasions just this month (completely seperate accounts). Something is going on and we need to get on top of it as a community.

Me too Modee. My Paypal account that has the same email as my Ebay account was shut down but they are NOT linked. After Paypal limited me for custom invoicing someone my Ebay account went down too. This was a week ago.

same thing happened to me. Ebay has gone down the tubbbbess

When they suspended me from ebay it took all but a day they limited my PP account.

I have been suspended from Ebay but my Paypal account is intact...until when?

I have been using the same PP account for about 4 or 5 suspended accys over the years (knock on wood). Years ago I might have even non changed the offending emails. Who knows, that was before I found this place.
I would have to concur with Modee. Unless you got suspended by EB for fraud or something I don't think they will go after your PP

Paypal Shutdown
 

Hi- No, not thousands, one of a kind, 1-4/month. but that aside, you still have to deal with the keyword spamming problem, etc etc. Just a boat load of garbage.. I am looking for a shop to rent now. paid ebay over $4500 month in fees. If I had the Capital, I would start an online auction site. Figure we need $30 mill, 10 m for servers, 10m for security/staff. 10m, advert/setup. anyone in?

They will bust you for encouraging infringement. Had a listing removed because of this and then you do another search and there are 50 more boxes, some boasting blank warranty cards, tags, etc...
But me selling one box was encouraging someone to buy it and put a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ in it?

PAYPAL Defo work with EBay and cross check
 

Hi,

just had yet another ebay account suspended, I did everything except change the paypal account (set up new email though), new ip, new address, new details, slow build, no dodgy items and bang suspended as linked to an old account. They could only do that via my paypal so it is official paypal and ebay do cross reference, so even if you don't get limited on paypal, which i haven't been, they still use this to stop you setting up accounts on ebay, crazy i know but by setting up a new ebay account after a suspension you break ebay rules not paypal ones. they just using paypal as means to an end to stop you on ebay

thanks

long story short I PMed modee on it, but ebay and paypal are now officiall linked they can check your address, bank routing, bank number, etc...to link you to an old ebay name. chaning emails does not work anymore...a new computer system setup to do this awhile back. the only limitiation is right now ebay can not take ebay fees from your paypal account instantly if its not linked. It has to do with legal issues right now, but they (ebay) are trying to change this where money can be taken freely from paypal to ebay instantly no questions asked. other than that i will write more later......its goign to be hell getting back on ebay now due to creating new paypal (if possible since socail is now needed among other things than a blood sample) and creating a new ebay.

Good Lord, if that's the case, isn't it just a matter of time before many of our Paypal accounts are suspended? So removing and adding emails is no longer usable? Is this just for newer accounts created? Is there a grandfather program? Please PM me.

I've wondered this too. For my part, I've just referenced the auction number in the notes. I don't know if that's better or not, but it would seem that way.

I've also left the subject blank for my payments in the past when buying little stuff. I'm a little concerned though that might look dodgy for more expensive items. Or is that a common occurrence?

I just talked to him briefly from my sleep, but he told me if people report you the computer nerd will ban you. My new account I just sent up last 4 weeks someone reported me saying my ebay address does not match my paypal address...long story they linked my paypal home address and name to my old rapunzel_01. My paypal is nown frozen with 57 dollars in it :D lucky I withdrew already 600 bucks and they froze this about 1 hour after they banned my new ebay account. So modee if people dont report you then your ok doing what your doing, but if some ass--- does not like shipping charges they will investigate why you put down lets say FLORIda as your home and you live in CA.....:mad: they route the info back to your paypal and look deeper into. even though paypal and ebay are two different companies they now share info back and forth again though is that ebay cant take money right away from paypal im repeating myself but im just saying when they find a legal loophole to do it ebay will do it be careful leaving money in paypal and ebay accepting payments ebay will take it.

In order to list an item isn't it mandatory that you take PP or have some form of merchant account? I'll never get a merchant account with my credit and right now I don't do enough business to justify the expense.
Will Bidpay suffice for this requirement?