| | | aymanousaym | 04-11-2020 09:57 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by DigiCambio
(Post 1081078)
And this monitoring continues even for my 5 year old Ebay account ! Although firefox blocks their attempts to take it . | is it okey to switch between browser, i want to switch from firefox to google chrome, because recently i found out that ebay track your fingerprint, so as i use firefoxe i found that they do block sites from collecting your fingerprint, which is a thing that ebay don't like ( as you can see on the image below) https://ibb.co/b1LN7gJ
or should i just set security parameter as custom like this : https://ibb.co/PrYQgb7 |
| Omani | 04-11-2020 08:20 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by SirTrader
(Post 1084394)
Dedicated residential IP is close to impossible. Even our own residential IPs are not dedicated. We might keep the same IP for utmost a month (it depends on your ISP though).
But if you can alternate between a handful of residential IPs belonging to the same city (and preferably the same ISP and IP range), you should be good. 911 S5 proxies can help you achieve that to a good degree. It has a feature that allows you to mark certain IPs as favorite so that you can use them again. For example, you can alternate between 5-10 residential IPs (in the same city) to run a particular account. There's a good chance at least one of them will be available when you need it.
Residential IPs belong to real users. The user whose IP you're renting might work on their computer for 3 hours and then let it go offline. That's why you'll need a number of IPs to alternate between. If one goes offline, there's a good chance you'll find one of your favorites that's still online. If not, you'll find another IP from the same city and add that to your pool of favorites, too. You can even arrange your favorite IPs in folders so that you know which ones correspond to which one of your accounts. Their software provides some interesting capabilities that I've grown to like. Most of the other residential proxy providers target web scrapers by offering rotating residential IPs, such that your IP changes every 10 minutes for example, which is a terrible idea for running stealth accounts. That's why I like the implementation of 911 S5 proxies. It's not easy to find an implementation similar to its type in the entire industry. I use Tuxler for quick work, it's not good for running stealth accounts as you don't have the choice to reuse IPs. | I understand -no such thing as a dedicated residential IP. Your alternative sounds good; get a pool of IP's from the same city. 911 it is then. Thanks:) |
| Omani | 04-11-2020 08:24 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by SirTrader
(Post 1084397)
Residential RDP? That looks interesting, but I've never heard of it being available. It would be very expensive even if it was. Can you name a provider I can look into? | PMed you source. |
| Omani | 04-11-2020 08:42 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by SirTrader
(Post 1084401)
There can be some difference, yes. For example, my Windows 8.1 shows the TCP/IP fingerprint as "Windows (7 or newer)", but my Windows 10 shows it as "Windows (NT kernel)". While I don't think that's going to be much of a problem, the OS version better be a match, too. Keep in mind that more than one OS version can report the same TCP/IP fingerprint. For example, it looks like Windows 7, 8 and 8.1 all report the same "Windows (7 or newer)" TCP/IP fingerprint.
You can check your TCP/IP fingerprint here: https://browserleaks.com/ip
Make sure to check your TCP/IP fingerprint on your residential connection though to get the real value. If you check it while being on a VPN, it will show the OS of the VPN server, which is most likely Linux.
And by the way, I don't recommend running stealth accounts on Linux. That can in itself raise a red flag right away. How many other innocent users run on Linux? You need to ask that yourself before proceeding. | It's a real pain in the ass having to match up the OS of a proxy with my host OS. That is another reason why a residential RDP is good - no need to match up the OS.
Just to be clear - residential RDP's, in my opinion, are not a magic silver bullet to solve all problems, because residential RDP's introduce their own set of problems (mainly because using RDP's increases the risk score, and mitigating RDP detection is difficult). But I'm yet to read about any better ideas with Kameleo the only other idea that comes close, but unfortunately they have annoyed me too much with their lack of options. |
| SirTrader | 04-12-2020 06:26 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Omani
(Post 1084586)
It's a real pain in the ass having to match up the OS of a proxy with my host OS. That is another reason why a residential RDP is good - no need to match up the OS.
Just to be clear - residential RDP's, in my opinion, are not a magic silver bullet to solve all problems, because residential RDP's introduce their own set of problems (mainly because using RDP's increases the risk score, and mitigating RDP detection is difficult). But I'm yet to read about any better ideas with Kameleo the only other idea that comes close, but unfortunately they have annoyed me too much with their lack of options. | I have mentioned the limitations of RDPs in my PM back to you, and thanks for sending the provider by the way.
VMware or VirtualBox VMs can be a good alternative, too. |
| HolaAmigo | 04-12-2020 02:30 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures I'm curious why not just buy a couple used computers for cheap and go the remote access option? |
| SirTrader | 04-12-2020 04:04 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by HolaAmigo
(Post 1084815)
I'm curious why not just buy a couple used computers for cheap and go the remote access option? | If you buy the computers, why remote access to them? But anyway, buying cheap computers is better than VM only if those computers have different GPUs. I doubt that any used computer with a GPU would be cheap enough to consider. If you buy used computers that don't have GPUs, then you can achieve the same with VMs for free.
Besides, the one computer you buy gives you one fingerprint. If you mess that up, you will have to buy another computer for another account. Yes, you can install a different OS on it and change a few other things to make it look like a different computer, but you will have finite options with it. And all new accounts you open with it will share the same GPU, slowly adding some link to your accounts. If you would like to go down the route of buying used computers, I advise you to buy cheap video cards instead. Everything else can be changed easily, but it's the GPU that remains the same. |
| HolaAmigo | 04-12-2020 11:28 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by SirTrader
(Post 1084845)
If you buy the computers, why remote access to them? But anyway, buying cheap computers is better than VM only if those computers have different GPUs. I doubt that any used computer with a GPU would be cheap enough to consider. If you buy used computers that don't have GPUs, then you can achieve the same with VMs for free.
Besides, the one computer you buy gives you one fingerprint. If you mess that up, you will have to buy another computer for another account. Yes, you can install a different OS on it and change a few other things to make it look like a different computer, but you will have finite options with it. And all new accounts you open with it will share the same GPU, slowly adding some link to your accounts. If you would like to go down the route of buying used computers, I advise you to buy cheap video cards instead. Everything else can be changed easily, but it's the GPU that remains the same. | My thinking was to grab some dirt cheap chromebooks/other cheap laptops, tether them to either prepaid cell phones or MiFi devices, toss them in a closet, and then just TeamViewer in like one would access a virtual machine. That way I can be anywhere and easily manage the accounts without risking compromise.. Since there seems to be some ambiguity as to what eBay can/can't track, if it's a 100% separate machine, spending ~$50 for a refurbished laptop seems like a smart move... Though these laptops all obviously have intergraded graphics chipsets so I'm not sure what value they would add now that you mention it. |
| JimJim | 04-13-2020 06:37 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures n00b question: is it safe to access multiple stealth stores through VPS's set up on the same device (macbook)? Can Amazon, eBay and Paypal link the accounts? |
| SirTrader | 04-13-2020 07:53 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1084931)
Don't take this personally, you've merely fallen for some of the scarmeongering that SirTrader and his other ID's have created on this forum, but when you have it in your head that because a laptop has and integrated graphics card then it is unsuitable for stealth then you've lost the plot.
A seller of accounts on this forum has told us that they use the same machine with different user ID's to create accounts. Okay, each ID has a few tweaks but they're managing hundreds of accounts on the same PC.
As we speak I'm managing 3 active ebay accounts, 2 Amazon seller accounts and 2 Amazon buyer accounts on the same PC via cloned VM's.
SirTrader has an agenda in an attempt to fault-find and peddle their useless software. They've lied consistently to this forum, is using this forum to get its members to join other groups to help him ( free of charge) and has finally had someone say that they are worried that a brand new machine is potentially unsafe. It's getting stupid now. | It's crazy how you have misinterpreted my words. I said using a new machine is better than a VM only if the machine has some GPU inside. Those machines that don't have GPUs don't add any more value than a VM, which is free. If OP plans to buy cheap computers that have some sort of GPU inside, then it's better. If OP's different cheap computers have different types of GPU inside, then even better. But if OP's cheap computers don't have any sort of GPU inside, then he can use VMs (which is free) because VMs also don't have any GPU.
Be the pathetic troll you have always been. No one cares! I only answered because you have twisted my words. Otherwise, you're not something I would want to waste my time on anymore! |
| SirTrader | 04-13-2020 08:22 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1085017)
Nah, You're the one twisting words. Your bull$hit made the poster above say the following because they believe it to be true.."Though these laptops all obviously have intergraded graphics chipsets so I'm not sure what value they would add now that you mention it."
You mentioned it, they believe it.
As long as I smell bull$hit, I'll warn others not to step in it and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
Here's a thought ... discuss another aspect of your stealth empire, anything at all, just for a change. You must surely have opinions and advice on other aspects. :thumb: | Integrated graphics would add value then. I did not make him question the success of his own method. He just gained a little more confidence knowing that his cheap computers would have integrated graphics. I only advised him that he could achieve the same thing with VMs IF his cheap computers did not have integrated graphics. Now that he says they do have integrated graphics, then his setup DOES add some value over using VMs, you idiotic fool! |
| SirTrader | 04-13-2020 09:39 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1085020)
Calm down, just because you can't get the answers you need to fix your flawed skamelo software there's no need to get lippy.
You're acting increasingly disparate and becoming irrational.
I'm assuming that in your quest for a solution you're active on many VPS orientated forums. It's wearing you down, take a break. :sleepy: | Pathetic! Still thinking that I work for Kameleo? Get lost, loser! That's what you get when you start personal attacks and name calling against someone else. |
| OnTheWay1 | 04-24-2020 06:59 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandoras_box
(Post 1080962)
The fact that they collect WebGL, Canvas fingerprint, etc. does NOT mean they use this information AGAINST you.
There are many members here who still use user accounts to run multiple stealth accounts, and they do just fine.
I like your research, but I'm doubtful of the belief part. Stealth is a science and belief is not one of its tools.
If you don't have the necessary information to conclude, leave your research open until you do.
We moved all our accounts from windows\user to VM as a precaution because we did not want to get caught should eBay/PayPal decide to use the information they were harvesting.
It is possible to spawn VMs that are so intricately dissimilar that eBay and Amazon would not stand a chance to link these back to one user - again that's a science, but you have to be a lover of fine details and be patient.
I wonder: if and when they decide to use this sort of information, might they choose a domain as ground zero for testing before implementing it across other regions? If this is so, could this be why US accounts are comparatively harder to stealth at the moment? | Can they still link accounts if you use Windows VMs? |
Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures I have been a member of this forum for about a week now and SirTrader and his debate on the topics I visited have always been entertaining for me.
Anyways, I tried VMvare with Graphics Acceleration disabled and Fresh IPs for Stealth purposes for Amazon but I managed to get linked at the end of the day, lol. Guess I will try VirtualBox with different OS.
I also tried Multilogin + ProxyLte and GoLogin (basically Multilogin but offering trials) + My own residential IP/4G Mobile Data, no success.
I never tried User Accounts on Windows though. Gotta give it a try as well! |
| dazller_the_great | 05-24-2020 09:18 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by afincho
(Post 1081537)
The new Firefox versions have a canvas protections so you should be fine | actually its not as good as its needed for ebay , i tried it , and seems like ebay is getting the canvas after all , but im sure they collect many other fingerprint information too , |
| Skiimpo | 06-03-2020 09:48 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Yo guys a little question, what’s the down side of using a new “user” in Windows 10 with portable Firefox, different fonts, different mac address, screen resolution and privacy addons, in comparison to using VM ? If VMs are better, why is that ? Thank you. |
| dazller_the_great | 06-27-2020 11:19 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiimpo
(Post 1097683)
Yo guys a little question, what’s the down side of using a new “user” in Windows 10 with portable Firefox, different fonts, different mac address, screen resolution and privacy addons, in comparison to using VM ? If VMs are better, why is that ? Thank you. | actually your method is good , but we use vm because of the lack of the proper hardware , you know , every one have a different work bench that can afford , |
| Isaac | 03-05-2021 02:44 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures 911 S5 proxies suspend newly created ebay accounts after 24 hours of first listing. 24 hours suspensions are related to IP issues only. I am using whatleaks.com to check whether IP is clean, but they still suspend.
Anyone may use 911 S5 nowadays without issues? |
Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac
(Post 1144420)
911 S5 proxies suspend newly created ebay accounts after 24 hours of first listing. 24 hours suspensions are related to IP issues only. I am using whatleaks.com to check whether IP is clean, but they still suspend.
Anyone may use 911 S5 nowadays without issues? | Both your IP sources are very risky ones for account health |
| Ebay.slayer | 03-05-2021 07:02 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Just use firefox, they will block fingerprints. |
| Isaac | 03-07-2021 11:22 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebay.slayer
(Post 1144446)
Just use firefox, they will block fingerprints. | I am using Firefox portable and it is pretty good with my local IPs, but 911 proxy sispends after 24 hours. I suppose ebay detects 911 proxies. |
| Isaac | 03-07-2021 11:24 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1144441)
Both your IP sources are very risky ones for account health | Can you use 911 proxies now for new accounts? When you used it the last time? |
| dazller_the_great | 03-11-2021 03:20 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac
(Post 1144420)
911 S5 proxies suspend newly created ebay accounts after 24 hours of first listing. 24 hours suspensions are related to IP issues only. I am using whatleaks.com to check whether IP is clean, but they still suspend.
Anyone may use 911 S5 nowadays without issues? | using proxy without knowing how to hide it properly will surely get you suspended . check for leaks , specially dns leaks , whatleaks can give you a small hint but cannot give you a proper security overview, all websites including ebay upgraded their security systems in the last year to a level that makes all what they used in 2019 to be conscidered as a joke. |
| dazller_the_great | 03-11-2021 03:22 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebay.slayer
(Post 1144446)
Just use firefox, they will block fingerprints. | lol , you still believe this is enough ?
this died two years ago , ebay now working outside the browser , and can detect a lot |
| Isaac | 03-12-2021 09:00 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by dazller_the_great
(Post 1145215)
using proxy without knowing how to hide it properly will surely get you suspended . check for leaks , specially dns leaks , whatleaks can give you a small hint but cannot give you a proper security overview, all websites including ebay upgraded their security systems in the last year to a level that makes all what they used in 2019 to be conscidered as a joke. | SO, do you know how to check/prevent the leaks as of today? |
Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Isaac
(Post 1145309)
SO, do you know how to check/prevent the leaks as of today? | Plenty of ways to prevent DNS leaks. Through command prompt, setting manual DNS addresses within your router adapter settings. Just research on the web and you'll get the way which will work for you. |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-11-2021 01:48 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures I think they are also monitoring Wifi tether + Windows .. like mobile ip + windows new account = ban
I say this because I've tested it. And I've also made the accounts via mobile device. Mobile device do not suspend, just new user accounts |
| lally6677 | 04-11-2021 04:22 AM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 1148897)
I think they are also monitoring Wifi tether + Windows .. like mobile ip + windows new account = ban
I say this because I've tested it. And I've also made the accounts via mobile device. Mobile device do not suspend, just new user accounts | Are you talking about US accounts?
I have no problem with suspension after creation or first list using mobile data tether for UK |
Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 1148897)
I think they are also monitoring Wifi tether + Windows .. like mobile ip + windows new account = ban
I say this because I've tested it. And I've also made the accounts via mobile device. Mobile device do not suspend, just new user accounts | Could be implementing mobile phone checks into some security algorithm for new accounts? Interesting play |
Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures In my opnion security is a way less from past years...eBay and Paypal both..
But it is only my opinion... |
| Asclepius | 05-21-2021 05:32 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures does ebay detect linken sphere? |
| GreenBean | 05-23-2021 08:38 PM | Re: eBay clearly is monitoring webgl and canvas fingerprint? see the pictures It should.
Don’t criminals use it or attempt to bypass the real world.
Ask user006140, a user here.
Let me know what you find out.
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