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Originally Posted by degsey69 (Post 1227455)

I know from experience where both eBay and Amazon were subpoenaed for my sales figures due to being sued over intellectual property rights and both refused to provide them (I was impressed by that and they have the right to do so under case law) so I was ordered by the court to produce them myself.

If you are in the EU I doubt that a small seller will be sued, I would just stop selling that item and ignore the lawyers trying to contact you, give no information to incriminate yourself, this is a civil matter

Originally Posted by OldTom (Post 1227449)

Isn't that somewhat of a contradiction? In one breath you're (wrongly) saying that ALL marketplaces provide seller details to copyright owners and all government agencies (they don't) and then retract that blanket statement by saying 'if they can show a legitimate interest'.

I simply do not accept that, on the strength of an email, they would release a sellers information - that's why we have data protection laws.

Anyhoo, for @sellerstealther, I can only repeat what I said above, do not respond to anything, email or letter.

These legal firms make their money by threatening sellers, sometime legitimately I accept, to make a settlement with them. That's how they can offer this policing service for free or a modest retainer, to the copyright holders. They only make a living if you fold.

To make a claim they need to quantify the loss to the copyright holder - they can't do that or if they could it would, in your case, be a very small sum and not worth legally pursuing particularly to a non-resident. They make their money by relying on seller panicking and folding.

I've had letters, even had one send mock court papers which must have amounted to about 100 sheets of very serious looking paperwork, the whole gambit of threats. I have ignored them all and nothing ever comes of it.

At the risk of repeating myself, I can only repeat what I said above, do not reply to anything.

Originally Posted by degsey69 (Post 1227455)

I know from experience where both eBay and Amazon were subpoenaed for my sales figures due to being sued over intellectual property rights and both refused to provide them (I was impressed by that and they have the right to do so under case law) so I was ordered by the court to produce them myself.

If you are in the EU I doubt that a small seller will be sued, I would just stop selling that item and ignore the lawyers trying to contact you, give no information to incriminate yourself, this is a civil matter

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1227460)

they provide all personal details though as soon as an item is removed through VERO

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1227472)

below is 5.2 of the privacy policy , that clearly says they can disclose information. in many if not all cases they just send it on request without letting you know if the request was sent by a verified VERO participant


"Complying with information requests from third parties based on any statutory information rights they have against us (e.g. in the event of an intellectual property infringement, product piracy, or other unlawful activity)."

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1227480)

Just because they can, doesn't mean they do. What proof do you have that they do. I.e. it's actually happened not could happen?

Originally Posted by sellerstealther (Post 1227512)

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket...nincorporated/

what do you think about this 2021 legal process? the default judgment was $100k from each defendant. Trademark of M@sha and the Be@r

the text of the judgment in PDF at the bottom of the page

my case concerns another company's trademark

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1227414)

How do you know that?

Originally Posted by aaa7z5 (Post 1231874)

They probably have, in any case in situations like these, you do need to assume they have all the info you were trying to change, and have already handed it over.

Dont log into that account or talk about it over email, and move on with life. Take it easy, dont worry about it. They wont bring you up on anything they cant prove, and even if they could...you wont be pursued because it would cost more to draw up a subpoena for your account anyway, that is why they reached out in the first place, hoping you would be one of the many that will react emotionally and indict yourself. =}:en: