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Turbo13 10-16-2023 02:25 AM

Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
Hi guys,

DAC7 requires to add your ID card number, if you are living in Europe. I’ am thinking, if having multiple accounts on the same name will link those accounts after adding ID code (code varies by country, but it is you personal code, ussualy writren on Id’s and passports). I have added same ID, and it never caused a problem. Thinking, what could happend after entering that code.

degsey69 10-16-2023 02:30 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
You will just have to wait and see what happens and let us know.

Turbo13 10-16-2023 02:45 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
Do you have stealth accounts in USA?

sellerstealther 10-18-2023 06:08 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
do they require a Card ID number or a tax identification number for a given country? like TIN etc.. it's important, and what country exactly in the EU are you in (if it's not a secret)?

sellerstealther 10-18-2023 06:11 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
ID card number or tax number? I wonder what about the driving license?**

Turbo13 10-18-2023 06:36 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
They ask for your ID number, likee SSN. Sole Proprietorship number is not valid, but maybe registering account on LcC would work. I am trying it rn.

Turbo13 10-18-2023 06:37 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sellerstealther (Post 1227752)
do they require a Card ID number or a tax identification number for a given country? like TIN etc.. it's important, and what country exactly in the EU are you in (if it's not a secret)?

It apliess for both of us. 30 sales or 2000 revenue.

sellerstealther 10-18-2023 06:40 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
There was recently a friend from Lithuania who also had to provide his ID card number on Et$y, I saw you writing with him, I wonder if they just asked you for the tax ID of your country (Lithuania) or if they knew right away that there was an ID card number, mine the tax ID is a different number than the ID card, can you help?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo13 (Post 1227757)
I am from Lithuania, but it apliess for both of us. 30 sales or 2000 revenue.


sellerstealther 10-18-2023 06:44 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
EDIT: I'm wondering if when they asked you for this number, they knew that in your country, it's the ID card number, or if they just asked you for your country's tax identification number in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sellerstealther (Post 1227759)
There was recently a friend from Lithuania who also had to provide his ID card number on Et$y, I saw you writing with him, I wonder if they just asked you for the tax ID of your country (Lithuania) or if they knew right away that there was an ID card number, mine the tax ID is a different number than the ID card, can you help?


Turbo13 10-18-2023 06:44 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
If you are talking about Ponciks, he is from Latvia. They display you a selection of few differt nationalities like Estonia, Poland etc. and then you choose on of them and enter the code. I haven’t done that yet, so I dont know what happens next. They are obligated to check on the european systems before providing info to the government.

Turbo13 10-18-2023 06:48 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
Replying to the edit:
They knew that we have Personal codes (asm. K. In lithuanian), and they were like:

Please enter your Asm. K.

So I guess they know what they need. They say we need taxpayer id, but actually goverment identifies us by the personal code, so they actually seek for that.

sellerstealther 10-18-2023 06:51 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
thanks for the answer, I wonder what about the report of accounts that ended the sale earlier and closed their stores, since they were not asked for this number in accordance with DAC7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo13 (Post 1227765)
Replying to the edit:
They knew that we have Personal codes (asm. K. In lithuanian), and they were like:

Please enter your Asm. K.

So I guess they know what they need. They say we need taxpayer id, but actually goverment identifies us by the personal code, so they actually seek for that.


Turbo13 10-18-2023 06:57 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
They will not be reported. But they still can see your income, if you use European banks.

sellerstealther 10-18-2023 07:00 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
yes, but not because of the et$y report :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo13 (Post 1227768)
They will not be reported. But they still can see your income, if you use European banks.


Turbo13 10-18-2023 07:21 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
Maybe, this doesn’t really bother me, I want to save my account at first place.

7Nrs 11-15-2023 02:21 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbo13 (Post 1227783)
Maybe, this doesn’t really bother me, I want to save my account at first place.

Any news about the accounts? Are they fine? Have they been linked?

ponciks 11-16-2023 05:41 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
Does anyone have any information,we all know that at the beginning of 2024 all sellers will be reported under the new DAC7 law.The question is will the bank account details where the money is received be reported or just the sale details and data from the platform itself where the trading takes place?

Jackies 11-16-2023 06:35 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ponciks (Post 1229714)
Does anyone have any information,we all know that at the beginning of 2024 all sellers will be reported under the new DAC7 law.The question is will the bank account details where the money is received be reported or just the sale details and data from the platform itself where the trading takes place?

of course they will, it is written in the law
if you confirmed the seller's details and added the tax number, the system included you in the next report, if you did not confirm and the account was suspended, you have to say goodbye to the store, but you can rest assured that there will be no report

ponciks 11-16-2023 07:33 AM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
I don't understand, what happens to the account created in 2019, they have not yet asked to confirm the identity again, then it seems that they will not send information about this shop to the state revenue service, or they will.

Marceldavis32 12-21-2023 03:15 PM

Re: Etsy DAC7 Europe Stealth Accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackies (Post 1229724)
of course they will, it is written in the law
if you confirmed the seller's details and added the tax number, the system included you in the next report, if you did not confirm and the account was suspended, you have to say goodbye to the store, but you can rest assured that there will be no report

So if I didnt confirm my tax ID but my bank account, will they still report the things they have or do they have to have all information to report it? Because I guess they could easily get the tax ID through the bank account even if I didnt confirm it.


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