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Con 03-28-2013 10:00 PM

Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
I just started selling on etsy, and it has been going very well.

I initially opened my account with all stealth info and tactics from the books and forums, wanting to use direct checkout instead of paypal.

Everything was good, until the direct checkout asked for the last 4 digits of my social.

I used a real bank account number with the stealth info, but it couldn't verify my identity. Tried a random last 4 digits a couple times, but no luck.

I ended up opening the account with legit info.

Question is:
1. If I have a business bank account, opened with EIN and name of business, would that be able to work as the last 4 digits?

2.Is it possible to stealth direct checkout?

Even if no one wants to give out the step by steps, knowing that it is possible would be helpful.

GreenBean 03-28-2013 11:33 PM

@point 2, should I ask why you went stealth?

:juggle:

Con 03-29-2013 05:19 AM

I mainly did it just to see if it can be done. Also seeing how some shops have been closed with little or no reason made me a bit nervous with giving real info.

Direct checkout does require a tax id relatively quick, so have that ready.fyi

GreenBean 03-29-2013 06:53 AM

If you stay away from the cliques, etsy is OK.

But when you get into the different circles, I agree there might be issues.

Shame. Otherwise etsy is a great sales place.

:ranger:

rsot 03-29-2013 09:01 AM

Competition can be fierce there but stealth works on etsy too

Univerzal 03-29-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 435329)
Competition can be fierce there but stealth works on etsy too

Indeed , 3 accounts up and running :)

Con 03-29-2013 11:57 PM

Cool!

I know stealth it is definitley possible with a Paypal account.

Just to confirm, are you using direct checkout on your stealths?

I agree with the cliques, social aspect of etsy can be dangerous. My girlfriend was following a particular seller who had a huge instagram and twitter following. If someone made a bow with the same Joannes supplied fabric, she would message her followers to report the shop for copying. Sometimes the followers would find the persons phone number or place of work number and harass them! Kinda crazy.

Univerzal 03-31-2013 03:56 PM

2 stealth ,1 original

GhostRyder72 04-13-2013 05:05 PM

Are you using direct check out on your stealth account?
If so how do you get around the ssn? I want to know this as well.

Univerzal 04-15-2013 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostRyder72 (Post 440080)
Are you using direct check out on your stealth account?
If so how do you get around the ssn? I want to know this as well.

You can avoid ssn using other countries but you still need an usa bank acc with usa billing address.

= 2 address [1ip]

rsot 04-15-2013 11:58 PM

Interesting approach Univerzal - a USA billing address but other country registration

GreenBean 04-16-2013 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Univerzal (Post 440583)
You can avoid ssn using other countries but you still need an usa bank acc with usa billing address.

= 2 address [1ip]


Avoiding SSN is wise.

Canada is a lovely country for that

:juggle:

Univerzal 04-16-2013 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 440721)
Interesting approach Univerzal - a USA billing address but other country registration

Thanks i guess:clap: i see it like this, if they kick my ass out for this i will double the amount of accounts i open every time. So i they leave me alone ,i leave them alone :) lol, my first account just dissapeared thats why i opened up 3 new *bam!* and all working great. I just wished etsy had more of "my kind of traffic"

:typing::typing::typing::typing:

Univerzal 04-16-2013 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 440737)
Avoiding SSN is wise.

Canada is a lovely country for that

:juggle:

Oh, i will check that out.:thumb:

Con 04-16-2013 03:50 PM

Nice!
 
Good job!

Thats using some ingenuity!

Have read about using canadian ebay accounts for stealth.

Nice to know it works for etsy.

For the canadian ip do you use dial-up?

katita8818 05-09-2013 09:50 AM

hi ... i just got suspended on etsy, inmediately try to open a new account without knowing they trace some information and link, 2 days later i was shut down again after creating one whole day of 30 listings =( ...

I have been reading here at the forums and this is the only info I could just found on etsy stealth...

what do I have to do to not be traced if I open a new account again??
I was thinking on use a dedicated laptop and just open a new account and use for that one, but I need to open 2 different stores, my main computer still login to the suspeded account because Im still working on orders already paid, so there's no way I can use it...

my ip is static, i have the service with comcast, modem and then a linksys router for wifi ... will it work if I use a hot spot just for the laptop avoiding get into the wifi? and how can I open the new acccounts without being linked??

any advice and any help will be really apreciatted

thank you in advance:amen::yar:

MM78 05-09-2013 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katita8818 (Post 447770)
what do I have to do to not be traced if I open a new account again?

Create User Accounts for each Etsy Account, this way each etsy account is separate and so are your cookies for each account.

Quote:

I was thinking on use a dedicated laptop and just open a new account and use for that one, but I need to open 2 different stores, my main computer still login to the suspeded account because Im still working on orders already paid, so there's no way I can use it...
Look at my 1st Suggestion, Separate User Accounts will work. You dedicate 1 computer to etsy but not necessary, if you multiple computers, just create separate user accounts on each system if you want and that will work.

Quote:

my ip is static, i have the service with comcast, modem and then a linksys router for wifi ... will it work if I use a hot spot just for the laptop avoiding get into the wifi? and how can I open the new acccounts without being linked??
Your most likely being linked by IP address, and cookies. Suggest you pick up a USB Modem (Dongle) that will let you change IP's, also suggest you log your IP for each etsy account you open.

katita8818 05-09-2013 08:25 PM

does the mac adress is beeing screened on their black list database??

do I need to use a different computer if so, from the one where I was flagged??

just to double check, by creating 2 different users for each of the etsy accounts,, you reffer for 2 windows users right??

Thanks so much...:pop2:

Con 05-09-2013 09:40 PM

I would start by following MM78's advice.

Highly doubt they log mac address' of computers.

Follow the advice, then if you still get suspended check back.

Would also recommend not using the same paypal email address or direct checkout information that was used on the suspended account.

Make everything fresh and new. Like a brand new person.

katita8818 05-09-2013 09:50 PM

Thank you so much... I will ... just changed my ip, and created a new user, I will try first with just one user, and hopefully I made it IN ...

This time I will take lot of precautions, big fish wants to eat mini fishes... it is very strict on there...

I guess that I will have to log in from an outside wifi to get my suspended account information (still have some orders to fill out)

Thanks guys :pry:

MM78 05-09-2013 10:36 PM

Don't forget to log your IP's if you do plan to have more than 1 account.

katita8818 05-10-2013 11:27 AM

thank you for the advice, I will keep a log so checking everytime I got IN...
since I still have to use the old banned account, have to avoid log in with the same adress...eventually will not longer access

Thanks so much, I will try on this weekend ... please keep posting ! this is a great resource forum ....:juggle:

another question now pops up... recently I have been hearing the news that online sales will have to report taxes from each state if aproved....has anyone consider this when using the stealth accounts??

are we all moving to Canada for this purpose??? lol

Con 05-10-2013 01:14 PM

if you want to talk about taxes, open up a new thread.

I dont want this thread closed because you want to avoid taxes.

The original purpose of this thread is for the ability to create stealth direct checkouts on etsy.

Lets keep on topic

thank you

rsot 05-12-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Con (Post 441047)
Good job!

Thats using some ingenuity!

Have read about using canadian ebay accounts for stealth.

Nice to know it works for etsy.

For the canadian ip do you use dial-up?

Dial-up does work if you can stand the slow speed.

GreenBean 05-12-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katita8818 (Post 448049)
thank you for the advice, I will keep a log so checking everytime I got IN...
since I still have to use the old banned account, have to avoid log in with the same adress...eventually will not longer access

Thanks so much, I will try on this weekend ... please keep posting ! this is a great resource forum ....:juggle:

another question now pops up... recently I have been hearing the news that online sales will have to report taxes from each state if aproved....has anyone consider this when using the stealth accounts??

are we all moving to Canada for this porpuses??? lol

Also re-do what you are selling.... most important.

:juggle:

rsot 05-13-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katita8818 (Post 448049)
are we all moving to Canada for this porpuses??? lol

:doh: not always a safe haven

katita8818 05-14-2013 06:20 PM

Thank you guys... will redo again my items... new pictures new everything...what Im affraid is again to be suspended after hours of work , but is the best option... if I want to success have to try

:yar:

rsot 05-19-2013 07:51 AM

This is a constant fear but as you learn more and experiment more, the fear gets desensitized

GreenBean 05-19-2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katita8818 (Post 449504)
Thank you guys... will redo again my items... new pictures new everything...what Im affraid is again to be suspended after hours of work , but is the best option... if I want to success have to try

:yar:

Use the fear with a dash of common sense.

Be proactive in being a new stealth you.

Operate with discipline.

Be in control.

Do not allow etsy & fear to control you.

It is a game.

Work on that premise.

:juggle:

rsot 05-21-2013 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by katita8818 (Post 449504)
Thank you guys... will redo again my items... new pictures new everything...what Im affraid is again to be suspended after hours of work , but is the best option... if I want to success have to try

:yar:

Like eB or other sites, you should build a few accounts via stealth - always helpful to have backups

IronManWU 10-07-2013 06:47 PM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
Any update on this thread? is direct checkout a possibility for a stealth etsy or no??

rsot 10-08-2013 12:00 PM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
Haven't seen it

jaysl 10-12-2013 07:24 AM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
Does etsy detect paypal accounts by the email used or the name on the paypal account?

So in theory you can use the same paypal account that was suspended from etsy as long as you add a new email to paypal, and following the guidelines of a clean pc (cookies etc)

rsot 10-12-2013 08:24 AM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysl (Post 494188)
Does etsy detect paypal accounts by the email used or the name on the paypal account?

So in theory you can use the same paypal account that was suspended from etsy as long as you add a new email to paypal, and following the guidelines of a clean pc (cookies etc)

They see both - using the SAME pp by adding an e-mail doesn't mean that they see don't the REST of the info on pp...easy link and suspension again.

Make new and stealth pp

GreenBean 10-13-2013 01:25 AM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysl (Post 494188)
Does etsy detect paypal accounts by the email used or the name on the paypal account?

So in theory you can use the same paypal account that was suspended from etsy as long as you add a new email to paypal, and following the guidelines of a clean pc (cookies etc)

That trick of adding a new email stopped in 2007.

Will not work at all .

You need a new paypal account. Everything must be new in stealth.

:nono:

rsot 10-14-2013 07:40 AM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
@jaysl, similar method to that explained in the stealth guide if you wish to follow

Gloxk 12-10-2013 08:40 AM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
How is this possible when they have different forms for Canadian bank accounts?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Univerzal (Post 440583)
You can avoid ssn using other countries but you still need an usa bank acc with usa billing address.

= 2 address [1ip]


rsot 12-10-2013 09:31 AM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
Different forms? Care to explain? Don't quite follow

Gloxk 12-10-2013 10:27 AM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
For Canadians they have bank transit numbers for us in america its routing numbers. I don't think you can input a routing number for a bank transit number. Also for the account number it is called financial institution number.
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 510250)
Different forms? Care to explain? Don't quite follow


rsot 12-10-2013 12:21 PM

Re: Etsy stealth direct checkout possible?
 
Ah ok I follow. Yes for Canadian bank account usage, you will need 1) bank number (3 digits) 2) transit number (5 digits) and 3) a Canadian bank account anywhere from 7+ digits.

There is direct checkout for funding to your bank:

(Warning etsy link)

https://www.etsy.com/help/article/21..._search_result


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