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Re: etsy
 

stealth or non-stealth.. stay away from ETS.Y forum, you don't want their attention

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I think you are right on actually creating a account. But selling similar items on etsy you did before will be the hard part cause its a handmade market place so if i'm selling lets say tshirts... usually thats all i really know to sell at the moment ... and selling something completely will take lot of trial and error and time. But I guess i got to start somewhere

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yes you are correct, i feel that some competition flagged me since i had items that were very legit items, but didn't know some items were trademarked. Like who have thought "I would cuddle you so hard" would be trademarked (just in text).. and seems like flood of items were deactivated as well in one month... I had the shop running fine since Feb 2014.. then august started getting lots of them... Maybe i'm paranoid but seems competitors wlll do what it takes to take you out. On ebay it was very different since my item was very small niche and wasn't due to compeittion but more due to shipping dsr.

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So etsy does database id confirm on ssn... so everytime i try to use a new stealth account under my id (with name variant but accurate ss#) i will get flagged and booted right? Seems this is much more difficult then paypal since etsy is asking for SS# right off the bat?

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I have been selling on etsy a lot too about (4 years until i got canned recently).. Before i sold on ebay for about 12 years. CC account worked great and many people didn't have paypal used this service.. I guess it will work only if i use family or friends name instead of my own name variant. So do you just use new paypal account then? Have you made a stealth etsy account?

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What do you mean by nasty cliques.. you mean like mini unions in each category on etsy? :s But yeah paypal only does take away lot of sales. I operated 4 shops on etsy each account generating some flow with paypal only ,then i added cc merchant and seems to increase about 40-50 % But then again i don' t know if they had paypal and cc but im guessing just a cc.. And few have used giftcards as well. But still paypal and etsy is better then nothig i suppose..

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If i'm using a family member, i'm sure i can get direct checkout right?

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We don't recommend using Family or Friends info to open accounts.

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yikes.. i always thought etsy was the very wearker form of ebay but getting on them full is much harder you are saying is not comforting too me .. i generated more flow there then ebay due to handmade items

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Whoa ok.. forget my other posts.. im glad you are saying its much easier... i'm studying quite hard for the stealth (asking lot of questions and searching) so i don't screw up first time around.. but comparing too craigslist.. seems kind of too easy.. im sure etsy is growing every year (when i started back 4-5 years ago.. it has developed so much and im sure security will too. .. I saw ellen degneres mention it on her show and seems like its mainstream when people used to shout out "sell that on ebay" on various tv shows news etc..

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I don't understand why sellers feel threatened when there is competition. They want to monopolize the industry and don't realize that competition sometimes helps sales. Now I realize even handmade seller who can be a sweet old lady making cake toppers can be viscous when it comes to competition.

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how come? what if they will never use ebay or etsy. i know it as fact cause no matter how much i convince my family member to use and sell on ebay (they don't even have second thought). When i say then i will use it.. no second thought either..

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If you are using someone else's info on Et,sy and using the Et.sy payment processor, that means you are using their S.SN. I hope they know that.

Just use one PP. Then create a new email address in PP every time you need to create a new Et.sy account. It's very simple.

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Let me give you a scenario:
1. You open New Accounts in your Family Names, Addresses.
2. You some how get those accounts limited

What are you going to do then? Your going to keep using other family members? What happens when or if you run out of family?

The point I want to make is, Making your accounts in Stealth allows for mistakes, If you kill 2, 5, 10....You can start over.

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I agree with you on that.. I guess it seems they have all the documents and more ease of mind when verification comes. but guess i have to learn more stealth in terms of how handle that properly.

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that seems very convenient to have one pp and using several email addresses for several etsy account.. I was thinking of it was several pp and several etsy.. which seemed so congested.. So if i had 4 etsy account all i need is one pp and 4 different gmails and make sure each has separate ip and separate everything is else.. its interesting because i'm wondering why etsy doesn't know one paypal belongs to several emails..

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I totally understand how you feel, I burned literally 5 family member accounts....lol and I'm not exactly proud of doing it.

With Stealth, I've destroyed at least a dozen.....best part is that I don't feel bad because I have I have 20-30 at any given time all just waiting to batter up!

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Keep the Et.sy accounts on separate Windows users, IP's, CC's, etc.

Then create multiple email accounts and attach them all to one PP. Et.sy cannot tell where the email addresses are going.

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VERY very true. They have no clue.

One PP can only have 8 emails so there is a limit to how many ste.alth Et.sys you can run on one PP. Of course you can and should have more than one anyway so really a nonissue.:thumb:

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@hecubus I know how you feel...all the feedbacks where 100% satisfied customers!!! Till some jelous competitor get jelous and email etsy complaining!! Thats how my shop closed...working on opening another one...

I got a new pp
Got a new cell number
Now working on getting a new cc don't know which one to go for that I can refill when needed.
Does anyone know which one.

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New CC can be Entropay, Royal Bank gift credit card, or Vanilla Visa

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I just opened my store again on Etsy and now its asking me my banks name , account owners name and institution number and account number...

also name and date of birth

and they say for your protection we may verify your identity with a secure third party service.


My questions now is do I go to a complete different bank of the same one i have to open a other account.

2nd question: My name and date of birth... can I use my same name or mix it up a bit.

Thanks everyone for all your help!!

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Open new bank account - at same bank is ok though

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Who do I pay etsy fee with? Vcc?

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so really there is an option to have one PP and multiple different email adresses without being linked?

because there is a lot of info about this in forum, one part says one pp/per account then one pp and multiple different emails and a lot of accounts (which sounds easier), what kind of information in et.y able to see about of receiver of payment? only email? name? adress?

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No. The part people are confusing is paying your fees with a ba.nned PP account.

When I mention using the same PP with multiple stores, I am referring to receiving payments only. Et.sy is not the only marketplace like this either. Anyone using PP Standard cannot see where the payments are going as the checkout process takes place through PP's portal.

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I have two Etsy stores using the same PayPal account. I have two emails attached to the same PayPal. One email is for one Etsy Account, the second email is for my second Etsy Account. All in all, 1 PayPal, 2 Etsy, 2 Emails. Been working just fine for months.

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It's been several months since I was on Et.sy but as has been discussed here many times, as long as you are in good shape with PP your Et.sy accounts receiving payments (NOT paying the bill, just taking the payment for orders) works just fine. The problem comes when something goes wrong with one Et.sy account that is on a PP with other Et.sy accounts. If Et.sy bans that shop, for any reason whatsoever, and the Et.sy shop disappears my recommendation is that you'd better contact ALL of your Et.sy customers on the banned shop quickly to reassure that orders are still in process and going to be just fine, because all it takes is a few opening cases with PP since they can no longer find you (even if the order is just fine!) and it not only takes down your Et.sy but your PP now has a better chance of having issues as well due to multiple cases being opened, even if all is completely legit.

This may not happen often but it DOES happen, because it happened to me a while back. I limped along til I was able to get new PP's up and running which was a royal pain. ALWAYS have backups. ALWAYS. I no longer deal with Et.sy or PP and I sleep a lot better at night and have a lot less ulcers too!

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well, thank you for all this info, understand all. but if one shop is down, will other shops follow this shop and will be taken down or not?
of course PP for rec. money only, bills will be paid by cc/gift card for every acc. separated.

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No Gilluska, you are fine as long as the shops sell completely different items with different info. Basically no way to link since Et.sy can't see PP accounts.

novemberrain1970 is just talking about stores going down with lots of sales still open. Et.sy wipes you off the map while orders are still pending and of course customers get upset. Just stay on top of your emails and avoid cases in PP...if this even happens to you.

It did happen to me in the beginning when I listed an item that was not handmade but was selling dozens of orders every day. It was awesome while it lasted...just had to email everyone with tracking numbers, etc. to let them know all was ok.

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perfect, yes, this can happen, always good to have backups, you never know with stealth acc.

what about idea of redirecting all emails from PP -all e.sy emails - forwarding to one mailbox without opening, just log in mailbox and checking if somebody ordered something?
is it safe without opening these emails or too risky?

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I have had no issues with that. All of my accounts are connected to the same phone, tablet, etc. with no issues opening them.

I only reply to customers when inside each Et.sy account through the messaging system.

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well, sounds good...thanks
i was just wondering how the e.sy know if the item is paid especially if they have no ties with PP, when buyer made purchase and it is paid, it is marked on e.sy as a paid, if refund is given, on etsy will show status unpaid.
wondering how they know it...

Re: etsy
 

You need to attach a PayPal to your etsy account.