| | | Klemantina | 12-13-2014 08:53 AM | Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Just started selling using Etsy, received payments threw their DC system, now my main concern is if they will delete my account and i will loose all my money. :violin:
1) If i'll get reported by competitors my account will probably be suspended but whats going to happen to the funds? what are the chances of being deleted if i'm getting reported by a gang of competitors?
2) I'm not selling handmade items so i'm also worried if they can delete me or just suspend me for that?
3) If for some reason i'll get linked i'm obviously gonna be suspended but whats going to happen to the funds? 3 month hold? 6 month hold? gone forever?
Please share your experience with etsy suspensions. |
| GreenBean | 12-13-2014 10:34 AM | re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Thread title is inaccurate.
Should read does etsy keep funds if account suspended.
Send a MOD a pm to change the misleading title.
If you have all those worries, why did you not check before you started selling what happens?
:noidea: |
| Klemantina | 12-13-2014 10:44 AM | re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended I checked the whole 3 pages about Etsy, didn't find a clear answer so I figured I can risk 500$ to test it. Now I want to be sure before I risk more. |
| unkown5454 | 12-13-2014 01:12 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended 180 day hold and they do suspend for items not handmade. So, be ready. All depends on when they find you. Do your best to make your items appear handmade.
Some do claim 90 day hold only, but that's not what you'll find in their TOS. |
| Klemantina | 12-13-2014 02:44 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Am I safe if i'll close all the listings or they can still suspend me after looking at my sale history? |
| Klemantina | 12-13-2014 05:49 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended According to this article, as long as i got the right documents from my supplier i can keep selling some Chinese items without violating any rules. Etsy Holds Session on Using Outside Manufacturers
Some sellers report that I have to be very unlucky to get deleted, still not sure if I should risk more money :ranger: |
| unkown5454 | 12-13-2014 06:34 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended I don't see where it explicitly says you can sell anything like that. Also, ecommercebytes is not Et/sy. A blog post is not a proven rule.
They approve on an individual basis. I have gone through it with them and backed out completely because they wanted all kinds of personal information from me and my manufacturers. Insanely intrusive and out of the line in my opinion. They even wanted proof via photographs of exactly how my items were made and who was handling them, etc.
Each individual involved in my business, they wanted their name and contact. Et/sy can go f*ck themselves. I just keep making new accounts. It cost $1 plus the cost of a gift card to make a new account. So, I suggest you stick to that method because you seem really skeptical of your own items. |
| GreenBean | 12-14-2014 01:07 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 619764)
According to this article, as long as i got the right documents from my supplier i can keep selling some Chinese items without violating any rules. Etsy Holds Session on Using Outside Manufacturers
Some sellers report that I have to be very unlucky to get deleted, still not sure if I should risk more money :ranger: | Then make the choice if etsy is for you.
Online selling is money making.
:ranger: |
| novemberrain1970 | 12-14-2014 05:48 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Why not skip them for the money part altogether? When I sold on Et/sy I didn't use DC but rather Pay.pal and it was incredibly easy. I am with Unknown - they can go F themselves. I am not on there any longer as I found greener pastures but if I want to go back it would take very little effort to be back up and running. I think of all the stealthy things I have learned here and applied Et.sy was by far the easiest to accomplish. |
Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 619731)
Am I safe if i'll close all the listings or they can still suspend me after looking at my sale history? | Sale history always plays a part |
| GreenBean | 12-14-2014 07:23 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 619731)
Am I safe if i'll close all the listings or they can still suspend me after looking at my sale history? | If etsy decide to get rid of you, they will.
:croc: |
Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 619927)
If etsy decide to get rid of you, they will.
:croc: | Or the niche competition will double up :rant: |
| GreenBean | 12-14-2014 08:08 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Etsy make the chop AFTER the competition cries foul
:boink: |
| Klemantina | 12-14-2014 09:03 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended I'm afraid if i'll take out the DC payment i'll loose customers and i'm not sure how risky this option and what are my chances to get deleted, anyway i'll keep testing Etsy, everything is good so far. |
| novemberrain1970 | 12-15-2014 10:19 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended I think it depends on what you sell. Some guys on here say not having DC hurt them but for the niche I sold my widgets in it never seemed to. I did offer it for a time but almost everyone used PP even when I did offer DC. Again probably just the niche I sold in - which seemed to basically be "people who have never bought anything off the internet before." :D |
| Klemantina | 12-15-2014 11:02 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Well I sold 10 items so far, 9 of them was using DC so im not planning to take this option out. What im selling is being sold by many sellers for more than a year but im the only one selling in a different color, i'm probably going to be reported or copied by the competitors or etsy will require some docs, anyway the only thing im worried about is if they will choose to delete me and steal my money. I'm always downloading the transaction history just in case but i can't sue them in case they delete me because it doesn't worth the time and money so i guess downloading it isn't efficient but if if they will delete me when i'll have more than a thousand it might worth to hire a lawyer and try to scare them but the chances are very very low and i'll probably loose my time and money.
Does anyone know for sure what are my chances to be deleted if i'll be reported by a gang of competitors or etsy decide im selling non handmade or i'll make a mistake and get linked? |
| novemberrain1970 | 12-16-2014 01:36 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Etsy can and will delete you for any of those things at any time. It could be ONE time. Who knows....but that's why ste.alth comes into play. In the US we can't have DC with ste.alth so you are fortunate there! |
| ovidiu | 12-16-2014 05:33 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended I'm not sure they can keep the DC funds since they are a de facto merchant account and I am sure there is some rule that prevents this. Maybe for 180 days or whatever but not permanently. |
| Klemantina | 12-16-2014 07:14 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended How come its such a mystery, everyone that use etsy can loose all their funds any day because of competitors/ip/cookies mistake and you still risking a lot of money on that platform? |
| unkown5454 | 12-16-2014 07:49 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended No, 99% of us use PP. Either way, read the TOS. It clearly states 180 days. |
| Klemantina | 12-16-2014 09:30 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Are you reading all the TOS of each website you register to?
I can't understand why "99%" of you not using DC, unless your afraid to get caught which means your doing something unethical or i'm not seeing the whole picture, please explain it to me. |
| GreenBean | 12-16-2014 10:06 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 620932)
Are you reading all the TOS of each website you register to?
I can't understand why "99%" of you not using DC, unless your afraid to get caught which means your doing something unethical or i'm not seeing the whole picture, please explain it to me. | WTF gave you the right to make such a nasty comment?
WTF do you know about the business plans of other users?
You cetainly are not seeing the whole picture.
All you do is moan about losing money and making inane threats of suing and scaring these companies.
That is not business.
That's a child playing grown up games.
Anyone doing ecommerce, reads the T&S of any company they intend to do business with.
I use paypal. I prefer to be able to pull in brain washed buyers who only know that wonderful company.
:mad: |
| Klemantina | 12-16-2014 10:22 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended So your not using DC because your afraid of buyers that don't know how to use paypal? that's a good reason to loose a huge percentage of potential customers?
"all i do is moan...." I just wanted to make sure im safe before risking money, it was a simple question which i could answer in 2 minutes if i ever entered a thread like this but for some reason its always hard to get a clear simple answer, which i finally got after more than a day.
I'm sorry but I don't see why your so mad after reading my comment, it was just a question, i didn't mean to offence anyone :surrender: |
| unkown5454 | 12-16-2014 11:24 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by novemberrain1970
(Post 620732)
In the US we can't have DC with ste.alth so you are fortunate there! | Here. I pulled out a post you seem to have missed.
We must supply SSN each time we apply for DC. This means we get one shot and one shot only. Once we lose it, game over. This applies for all of us who operate in USA and unlike EB, PP, AZ, etc...we cannot use EIN on Et.sy accounts.
I will not explain how any of us operate our business. Et.sy is just known to be a great place to sell but also a great place to get banned for no reason other than competitors reporting you or Et.sy simply feeling your items are not "handmade" enough to be sold in their marketplace.
In such a volatile atmosphere, it is much more efficient to focus on PP for checkout. I can use the same PP account for an infinite amount of Et.sy stores simply by rotating newly created email accounts. It doesn't get any easier than that. |
| Klemantina | 12-16-2014 11:55 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Sorry I forgot about this rule, now it makes sense. I don't have more questions, this thread can be closed. |
| novemberrain1970 | 12-18-2014 08:49 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 620957)
I'm sorry but I don't see why your so mad after reading my comment, it was just a question, i didn't mean to offence anyone :surrender: | *you're
:FF: |
| big tymer | 12-21-2014 06:51 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended i have used etsy for years and no one ever complained to me for not using direct checkout. everyone paid by pp |
| Gladiator | 12-21-2014 06:58 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 620932)
Are you reading all the TOS of each website you register to?
I can't understand why "99%" of you not using DC, unless your afraid to get caught which means your doing something unethical or i'm not seeing the whole picture, please explain it to me. | Go look up Etsy suspensions. Those loons suspend people for more arbitrary reasons than Ebay. That's saying something. In most areas, which was stated before, once you supply the SSN you are done with ever using direct checkout. Etsy doesn't care. They don't even accept EINs. So even formed businesses could not get on there without making one person a potential victim of Etsy Staff.
Some of the YouTube videos are heartbreaking in regards to etsy suspensions. It's clear they know nothing about stealth and face bankruptcy because some NY Owl Cup drinking staffer decided to push a button and delete their store.
But yeah, next time read up on what you are talking about. |
| big tymer | 12-21-2014 07:36 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 622479)
because some NY Owl Cup drinking staffer decided to push a button and delete their store.
| owl cup drinking staffer sums up the type of people working there |
| markcle | 02-19-2015 04:40 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended My legit et/sy acct was suspended 1 month ago, since then they sent my final payment of DC funds ($120) - I didn t even pay my last installment of seller fees (only $8 or so),man they re trusting!! |
| markcle | 02-19-2015 04:47 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended So now my e/tsy stealth question (anybody): Will use pp only but they still want a cc, will any gift card do? vanilla visa,etc.? I am in Canada and hear RBC gift cards are real good. |
| biglouis999 | 02-19-2015 04:59 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Etsy sellers are the biggest bunch of snitches on the planet! Its like a cross between Soviet Russia and the Third Reich. Stay OUT of the forums they are poison. The mods are semi literate. |
| big tymer | 02-20-2015 11:15 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by biglouis999
(Post 643959)
Stay OUT of the forums they are poison. | I like to read through the forums to see how dense some of the etsy sellers are. I read a post where the seller was afraid to give out her paypal email address because she thought the buyer (who wanted to pay her via paypal) was a scammer trying to get her credit card info. by asking what her paypal email was so she could send a payment. Some of the in the threads are crazy and gives you an idea of some of the type of people you are dealing with there. |
| unkown5454 | 02-21-2015 02:35 AM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by big tymer
(Post 644343)
I like to read through the forums to see how dense some of the etsy sellers are. I read a post where the seller was afraid to give out her paypal email address because she thought the buyer (who wanted to pay her via paypal) was a scammer trying to get her credit card info. by asking what her paypal email was so she could send a payment. Some of the in the threads are crazy and gives you an idea of some of the type of people you are dealing with there. | +1 on this. Same goes for eCra.ter forums and PowerSellersUnite forums.
Reading them does help to give an idea of some operational issues for each selling platform. Just never participate and if you absolutely feel the need to, make a bogus account to just mosey around. Keeps weirdos from creeping on your accounts. |
Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by markcle
(Post 643954)
So now my e/tsy stealth question (anybody): Will use pp only but they still want a cc, will any gift card do? vanilla visa,etc.? I am in Canada and hear RBC gift cards are real good. | RBC gift cc's are amazing for Canadian stealth :thumb: |
| markcle | 03-04-2015 12:37 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended THANKS! RBC it is then! Do they want you to register it when you buy or I guess you can just say it is a gift and recipient will register it online? |
| markcle | 03-04-2015 12:39 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended RE "handmade" on et-sy: sure are a lot of people handmaking watches....thats quite a skill, must take years to make each one :-) |
| Kontajes | 04-30-2020 10:37 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 619642)
Just started selling using Etsy, received payments threw their DC system, now my main concern is if they will delete my account and i will loose all my money. :violin:
1) If i'll get reported by competitors my account will probably be suspended but whats going to happen to the funds? what are the chances of being deleted if i'm getting reported by a gang of competitors?
2) I'm not selling handmade items so i'm also worried if they can delete me or just suspend me for that?
3) If for some reason i'll get linked i'm obviously gonna be suspended but whats going to happen to the funds? 3 month hold? 6 month hold? gone forever?
Please share your experience with etsy suspensions. |
I just got suspended today for no reason and all my funds were kept with no explanation ETSY IS CRIMINALS DO NOT USE THEM YES COMPETITORS WILL REPORT BULL**** ON U AND U WILL GET KICKED OFF WITH NO REASON OR EXPANATION AND YOUR MONEY WILL BE KEPT AND REFUNDED TO THE CUSTOMERS I SENT OUT 8 ****IN ORDERS AND I PUT THE TRACKING NUMBERS IN AND THEN IMMEDIATLY GOT SUSPENDED AND THEY STOLE 300 ****IN DOLLARS |
| wilburnet | 05-04-2020 01:11 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Sorry to hear that man. And I think Etsy support number is not working during the Covid-19 panic.
Hope things work out |
| agent006140 | 05-04-2020 03:45 PM | Re: Does etsy keep funds if account suspended Quote:
Originally Posted by markcle
(Post 647369)
RE "handmade" on et-sy: sure are a lot of people handmaking watches....thats quite a skill, must take years to make each one :-) | Etsy prides itself as a place to buy handmade items,so it is strict on what is handmade and by whom.
It must be handmade by y ou or someone who works for you,if it is handmade by someone who is not employed by or by you,then it will be removed. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:01 PM. | |
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