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EIN and Etsy verification
 

I've tried to search for ein info but it won't show in the search.

Can anyone tell me if when I switch to direct checkout on etsy, what they check for?

If I use an EIN then will they ask for a copy of my drivers license? How do I sign up for an EIN for the sole use of etsy stealth? A walk through or link would be great since I can't search for EIN.

If I use a social, what will they check? I know using someone else's info is frowned upon but my sister would be willing to go into business with me and help as a side job. She lives with my mother which is an address I've used before on etsy. When I use her social with a po box/address and a business bank account in her name, will etsy be able to see any of her other addresses she has lived and link my name from the banned account? Or do they just check to make sure her bank account is legit and she is who she says she is with a social?

I sure hope that makes sense.

I do have paypal up and going but I worry that they will so force everyone to make the switch and I need a plan :)

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I sure hope you get a response, I've been trying to find this info out for a while from the powers with all the knowledge, but I believe they are busy with their own business, lucky them! I've been off et.sy for 4 months because of a competitor who is still selling the same kids items! It really sucks. I was in the process of going the business route, but now that seems not likely either!! Good luck!

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You can't use an EIN and don't use friends/family SSN's. There's other methods mentioned you need to do.

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I've searched every listing looking for the information your referencing but I can't seem to find a way to stealth et.sy now.

1. Can't use EIN unless you provide DL and proof of address
2. Have to have a US Bank account that can be verified.
3. The Stealth Book does not help because I'm not an ebay user and most does not apply to et.sy in it's current state after the changes in Dec 15.

If there is a post I need to review pls advise, I can't find.

Using other info is not right and I will just have live without et.sy if there is not a way to get back on with a VBA for USA customers. Payoneer can't be used for US, correct? Do you know anything about PTShamrock? I know they are expensive, but they have VBA w debit cards.

Thank you for your time and ANY point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!! :clap:

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Just don't use direct checkout. Pretty simple solution after that.

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Thank you for the help, but et.sy MAKES everyone use Direct Checkout now! You do not have a choice! You can add PPal but you have to sign up for DCkout

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I hadn't setup a shop in the last little bit, looks like four more areas are on lock-down to bypass the use of direct checkout. Hmm.

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No idea how etsy works but on pp, some people put in random SSNs to unlock their PP accounts and then upgrade to business and attached EIN... once you add a SSN for direct checkout, can you add a EIN afterwards? thus all 1099k gets reported to the EIN??

Sounds sketchy I know, but just an idea for you folks.

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I don't think that works as they ask questions/double check names like a credit report.

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I would use your sister's you can make her a real part of the business, do not sell over 2000 items that is where the real problem starts, use ONLY direct check out open a new bank account or use your sisters, do not use your SS do not use paypal at all, use your sister's address and change IP, since the new changes I have been investigating their new practices, take new pics do not store them in your computer, take them with a regular camera and upload them directly into etsy, you might loose those pics, but easy to solve save them in a disk from your camera. Or sell on ebay or try to get into the stupid amazon new market which has become a pain in the ass as well, as they require pictures of samples and they all have to be hand made and they are saturated with a lot of items so they are rejecting left and right and they take forever to even start the progress.

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Trying to be a vague as possible?

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so trying out new stealth that worked for U.k members will post results in the next 24 hours, if you are someone who is trying was to get back to etsy, message me so we can figure ish out

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Good luck, really hope it works out for you :)

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yeah so far so good been 24 hours still up and searchable

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I am in the same boat as you guys. My beginning to be super profitable etsy shop was flagged and shut down. I can use a relatives info, but I was wondering if its possible to get back on a different way, Accuse me for being naïve, this is my first post on a forum.
Can you direct me in the right direction?

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aww man, I cant message you, until I have ten posts. Can you
message me, if possible?

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But what is to stop your shop from being flagged again? All this work, for someone to come and destroy it over and over. Do you know if it helps to list your handmade step by step process for an item, in regards to getting flagged and reviewed.

I was banned and actually gave etsy step by step after the fact and they still denied my return, but I wonder if it is on your main page, will it stop flaggers? Sorry for the ramblings, just trying not to get flagged again, and gain some knowledge from you all.

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Is that why you got shut down? Because someone flagged it as not being hand made?

Gotta love the Et.sy community. Bunch of ****s

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From what I gather, yes. my shop had many similar items to other shops.

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I wonder if they only ask for an ID if they are unable to verify you through the address of your credit card - does anybody know?

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yeah they will ask for an id. work around is
change your bank info. then change it back again after.
but note that house will get a mail from your bank stating you are changing to that adress.

i think i saw someone had someone make a really good ⊗⊗⊗⊗ id for them I've never tried tho

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So, pass verification, then can change address on bank acct. cool!

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So if I change my bank's info in advance, then ETSY will not ask for an id? Is my understanding correct? And may I know how your solve the SSN issue? Thanks!

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My understanding is Etsy cannot see bank account details like name, address. Only that there is a valid account open. Thats all. The Banking system doesn't reveal that information for privacy reasons. Otherwise we could find Bill Gates' bank account easily :p

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I have tried 3x now to open a new stealth account after my shop was suddenly closed without due cause. This has left me in a difficult position as I am in the midst of recovering from a near lethal case of malaria and can't work. My E*tsy shop has been my only source of income for months. I read stealth and had success about a year ago (but then all that was needed was a new paypal and vpn, etc - now they require bank info and it ID)

The first time, I opened a new bank account in my real name, and used my same birthday but changed my bank home address, new phone number, new email, plus the new bank account, new VCC. I also used a VPN, and a new account on my computer. I am trying to open a Canadian e*tsy account btw.

I got a message saying they couldn't verify my identity so i uploaded an old passport. I was able to open an account but it was shut down about 5 days later. I was told the reason was because they wanted an explanation about why I was operating an account in a location different than the one in the info I provided.

This was not the case as the VPN was for my home country/city, and correlated with all the address/bank info I provided. I tried to ask them what they meant, but they wouldn't elaborate and just said they will not let me have an account.

I tried a second time today- this time again with new bank info, new address, new phone number, new home address, new email, and new bank account (this time with a totally different bank) plus i went to a coffee shop I've never been to for a different IP address.

The only thing I did was use a different birthday in case that similarity caused a red flag before (first i called my bank to see if that was info they verified - they said they never really did, and no one ever really asks that)

Again, I received a message telling me that they couldn't verify my identity (i tripple checked, with my bank on the phone even) and asked me to upload ID.

Has anyone had this issue and is there a workaround? I'm starting to freak out a bit..

Is it because I used a different bday? The bank seemed pretty sure that info wouldn't be asked.. but all the other information was correct.

Is my name the red flag? Does it matter that it's a bit unusual? I wouldn't think an algorythm could pick up on that..

Or is this just what E*sty does now? How do people open stealth accounts then?

I have considered getting a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ DL with my information that excludes my middle names, but that just seems too shady.. what happens if they try and verify the DL numbers?

Other than that I've considered setting up a business account - as the account name would be different, but what happens if they need ID for that too? They don't even give ID for business licences..

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated!!! I am at a loss as to what to do next and don't even know how I can survive without this, it's been my main source of income for the past year, while I've been so sick.

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From what I remember it was probably a bad idea for you to use a VPN. Sites like Et.sy and Eb.ay black list VPN IP's because well lets face it, people like us use would be using them :d

Having to provide ID is normal. They can't check your ID via your bank details. Basically if they can't find you through your local governments systems to say you live at the address you have given, they are going to ask for proof of identity. Without this you are not going to get your stealth account. You're going to have to bite the bullet and find a way to provide one or there is no point in setting up your stealth. There is no other way.

Good luck, hope all goes well for you. But for the future try and set up your own website and drive sales through that instead, Et.sy is an unreliable source of income, and building it up again only to possibly lose it will cause you more stress than good.

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Thank you so much for your reply. Yesterday, instead of using a Vpn i went to a random coffee shop to use their ip (I wanted to get set up before getting a dedicated vpn)

ohh I see. I thought if I changed my bank account address and it matched the address I provided this would be a match when confirming the bank info. I didn't think my local government had an address for me as I don't have a drivers licence - all i have is a health card and a passport, and ive never updated to my current address on them.

If I provide an old real Id then will it be a red flag if my full, four name (first, middle, 2nd middle, last) is a match? (my bank account just uses first and last) .

Are there any other options for providing ID that have been proven to work that you know of?

Last time I provided an old passport with a pic that doesn't even look like me now and i still got shut down after a week - though in that case maybe it was the vpn..

Yes, I hear you on not relying on etsy. I've tried setting up an offline site but Etsy has a built in audience which makes it much easier.. In the future I will try and keep building but it's a lot harder and takes a lot longer.

Thank you so much again!

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Have you covered all aspects of stealth? So a new pc profile, new email, turned off email images, used new photos, acted like a new seller etc?

I'm not able to give you full information as being UK based it is a different process. But most people here would provide their address to the government and that database is what Et.sy use, I had not updated mine for a while so was able to take advantage of that on one of my stealths. But this is where Et.sy look for you and if they don't see your name on the address you gave that is when they ask you for ID.

Have you purchased and read the stealth guide? Everything you need to know is there, and using it's check list you would probably be able to figure out where you went wrong. It's hard to tell without you laying out your stealth plan for all to see, but keep in mind that Et.sy are used to people being banned and trying to set back up again, it could be that if your name matches your area and matches the product category you used to sell in, they might pick you up and shut you down. But it could be something as simple as having not followed a simple stealth step like new bank account or new product photos.

For ID, search the forums if you can't provide one yourself. There are options, but ID is necessary.

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Hello People
I don't understand why you focus on having US Et accounts?
me and my team manage 57 shops on etsy, and all of them are stealth accounts
everything is simple.

We use VPN for each one of them and for each order we get
we ship from our own country. The buyer in most cases don't care where the product is ship from, So whats the problem. Working with accounts from other countries with VPN are working amazing they don't even ask for ID

You should start working out of the box with US accounts
think different there are other options.

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Hi could you please also help me manoverde. I will greatly appreciate it. Thank you

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I guess for some it's easier, for example I don't use a VPN here in the UK, so I can only create UK accounts. Might be the same for our US friends. Just remember that not everyone has the same resources available to them. There is no way I could manage 57 accounts, and no way I will ever hire anyone to help me get that far :P

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This is the Internet, we all have the same resources - only accessing them may be more difficult.

US accounts are in high demand because US buyers typically don't like to see other countries especially if it was not advertised as originating there. That would effect the ship time they were expecting to get it in also.

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Just say something like US DELIVERY IN 5 BUSINESS DAYS and they don't give a damn. Trust me.

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What country do you set it up in? And what VPN service do you use? Thanks in advance!

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I would love to hear more on how you can open accts in other countries.
Thank you!!

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No one will give full details on it in public anymore. You need basic stealth plus you have to do it in a certain sequence.

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I would suggest contacting Gladiator (OFF this forum) as she knows her stuff. Why keep burning bank accounts and shops without knowing EXACTLY what to do? It is only gonna continue to frustrate you and may or may not succeed.

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Gladiator is it possible for me to PM you?

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Thanks. Yeah, people are looking to buy accounts (not going to happen) and aren't getting the proper way to get around it. I hate to be one of those people, but it'd be easier if folks would just listen to me...lol

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I am interested in emailing with you Gladiator if you are willing! :) I can't PM on here yet...