Watching Trump's inauguration

[slokor]

Global warming has been going on for billions of years?
Im sorry but - LOL!!!!
I guess humanity has nothing to do with it and gas emissions are just a myth.
And youre well read and informed?
Excuse me again but - DOUBLE LOL!!!
Just your comments on Isis and that last remark about global warming prove the opposite.
You think of yourself as intellectual but the truth is youre coming across as ignorant in many cases. In this respect youre hopeless and no amount of typing will change that. Youre just like any other zealot or fanatic out there believing theirs is the only truth and all others are wrong. Keep living in your fantasy of Trump greatness and lets see where that leads the country in the next four years. And mark my words - when the time comes for a reckoning of trump's failures he will have plenty of excuses and others to blame - cause Trump is perfect - or would you disagree with that assessment as well? Dont bother responding to that last question - we all know the answer already.

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by slokor

Global warming has been going on for billions of years?
Im sorry but - LOL!!!!
I guess humanity has nothing to do with it and gas emissions are just a myth.
And youre well read and informed?
Excuse me again but - DOUBLE LOL!!!
Just your comments on Isis and that last remark about global warming prove the opposite.
You think of yourself as intellectual but the truth is youre coming across as ignorant in many cases. In this respect youre hopeless and no amount of typing will change that. Youre just like any other zealot or fanatic out there believing theirs is the only truth and all others are wrong. Keep living in your fantasy of Trump greatness and lets see where that leads the country in the next four years. And mark my words - when the time comes for a reckoning of trump's failures he will have plenty of excuses and others to blame - cause Trump is perfect - or would you disagree with that assessment as well? Dont bother responding to that last question - we all know the answer already.

Yay for our educational system!

Are you not aware there have been times in history where we have been covered in ice (known as ice ages) & periods of warmth? (Sometimes called tropical artic)
(It's true Google it)

How much of this is caused my humans is under debate. And i dont deny we attribute to it. But turning our backs on energy and allowing other countries that could care less about greenhouse gases and global warming to supply us with fuel is not the correct answer. can you not agree on that one?

I never claimed to be a "intellectual " those are your words.
Like I said get your news from multible sources, you'll be better informed.

You keep bringing up Isis are you an Authority? I'm not. But you refuse to acknowledge that these countries were picked by the Obama administration.

[MM78]

Trump is really loved by all:

https://i.imgsafe.org/6351239f41.jpg

[slokor]

Originally Posted by jojo2012

Yay for our educational system!

Are you not aware there have been times in history where we have been covered in ice (known as ice ages) & periods of warmth? (Sometimes called tropical artic)
(It's true Google it)

How much of this is caused my humans is under debate. And i dont deny we attribute to it. But turning our backs on energy and allowing other countries that could care less about greenhouse gases and global warming to supply us with fuel is not the correct answer. can you not agree on that one?

I never claimed to be a "intellectual " those are your words.
Like I said get your news from multible sources, you'll be better informed.

You keep bringing up Isis are you an Authority? I'm not. But you refuse to acknowledge that these countries were picked by the Obama administration.

Told myself Im going to stop cause theres no arguing with a fanatic but your retarded comments about global warming just pushed me.
Are you even listening to yourself?
The fact more than 99% of the scientists in the world agree that global warming is a real threat to our continued existence on this planet and it is of our own making is undisputable. It is NOT under debate whatsoever. Spoken like a true Trump enthusiast. Only he could have said it better. There is no other truth. There is no other alternative fact.
And this part:

But turning our backs on energy and allowing other countries that could care less about greenhouse gases and global warming to supply us with fuel is not the correct answer.

Are you high? This has nothing to do with fuel being supplied to the US and from your words it sounds like the US is turning its back on its role as a GLOBAL LEADER. Or would you rather someone else take up that mantle and leave the US as a second rate country that follows instead of leads - Im sure Russia would just LOVE that.
As for countries that supply the US with oil (not 'fuel' which is the end product and is manufactured in the US actually) - which ones are you referring to? which ones piss all over the environment? And which of the countries that signed the Paris accord piss on the environment and provide the US with oil?
Dude youre full of crap and you seriously need to just take a break and check your fact before spewing your garbage.
Also, stop preaching to me about getting the news from multiple sources. If theres one FACT that I am certain of it is that I read far more than you do and get my information from far more sources than you could possibly care to listen to or read. The more you write the more you prove just how ignorant and fanatic you are.
And for the record - I dont consider myself left wing or right wing. I consider myself a humanist - a believer in the power of humanity which right now is being held back by ignorance, extremists, tyrants and hate mongers. There are no 'races'. Theres only ONE race - the HUMAN race - and unfortunately the way things are going we're headed towards extinction because of petty little people of which Trump is first and foremost. I truly believe that president 'Pussy Grabber' has the potential to send us decades backwards if not outright be the end of us all.

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by slokor

Told myself Im going to stop cause theres no arguing with a fanatic but your retarded comments about global warming just pushed me.
Are you even listening to yourself?
The fact more than 99% of the scientists in the world agree that global warming is a real threat to our continued existence on this planet and it is of our own making is undisputable. It is NOT under debate whatsoever. Spoken like a true Trump enthusiast. Only he could have said it better. There is no other truth. There is no other alternative fact.
And this part:

Are you high? This has nothing to do with fuel being supplied to the US and from your words it sounds like the US is turning its back on its role as a GLOBAL LEADER. Or would you rather someone else take up that mantle and leave the US as a second rate country that follows instead of leads - Im sure Russia would just LOVE that.
As for countries that supply the US with oil (not 'fuel' which is the end product and is manufactured in the US actually) - which ones are you referring to? which ones piss all over the environment? And which of the countries that signed the Paris accord piss on the environment and provide the US with oil?
Dude youre full of crap and you seriously need to just take a break and check your fact before spewing your garbage.
Also, stop preaching to me about getting the news from multiple sources. If theres one FACT that I am certain of it is that I read far more than you do and get my information from far more sources than you could possibly care to listen to or read. The more you write the more you prove just how ignorant and fanatic you are.
And for the record - I dont consider myself left wing or right wing. I consider myself a humanist - a believer in the power of humanity which right now is being held back by ignorance, extremists, tyrants and hate mongers. There are no 'races'. Theres only ONE race - the HUMAN race - and unfortunately the way things are going we're headed towards extinction because of petty little people of which Trump is first and foremost. I truly believe that president 'Pussy Grabber' has the potential to send us decades backwards if not outright be the end of us all.

Spoken like a true left winger. Can't will an argument, resort to name calling, still doesn't work? Put words in my mouth then tell me how I'm wrong.
No room for debate huh? True liberal idea" I'm right because I care about the environment "
99% of scientists? You need to check YOUR "facts"

I call BS! Completely un true. It is YOU who needs to check facts. It is YOU who is an extremist.
You are completely a left wing extremist liberal trust me.

[dealagreeproceed]

Originally Posted by jojo2012

(It's true Google it)

i must point out that using google people can find evidence to support whatever they want to support. if i want to believe that aliens are real and coming to take over the planet then most likely i can find "evidence" to support that claim somewhere via google...

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed

i must point out that using google people can find evidence to support whatever they want to support. if i want to believe that aliens are real and coming to take over the planet then most likely i can find "evidence" to support that claim somewhere via google...

You are correct. however I was referring to the fact that there was an ice age. I hope you are not denying that?

[slokor]

And yet again - LOL!
Your responses are almost as childish as those of Trump himself. Completely ignoring what I wrote and just referring to me as a liberal left winger (which I assure you I am not - whatever the hell that even means).
And then in true Trump form ending your argument with words 'trust me'. Anyone who needs to write those words is shady as hell in my eyes.
No one is disputing the fact there was an Ice Age - before the industrial age and before greenhouse effects and before gas emissions.
That has NOTHING to do with what is happening now.
Right now it is humanity that is destroying this planet. You can check any number of sources and any number of science journals, articles or studies on the topic. That is a FACT. No disputing it. No way around it. No alternative truth beside it. IT IS A FACT.
And you can say what you want and lie to yourself as much as you want it will not change that simple FACT.
Then again someone like you probably believes that evolution is a hoax and that God created us all less than 6000 years ago so theres really no point in discussing it any further... keep on living in ignorance calling people who disagree with you left wing liberals. Id take being called that over being an extreme right wing nutjob any day.
If the world is left to people like Trump (and his supports - such as you) this planet is doomed. And that has nothing to do with any political agenda - that too is a FACT.

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by slokor

And yet again - LOL!
Your responses are almost as childish as those of Trump himself. Completely ignoring what I wrote and just referring to me as a liberal left winger (which I assure you I am not - whatever the hell that even means).
And then in true Trump form ending your argument with words 'trust me'. Anyone who needs to write those words is shady as hell in my eyes.
No one is disputing the fact there was an Ice Age - before the industrial age and before greenhouse effects and before gas emissions.
That has NOTHING to do with what is happening now.
Right now it is humanity that is destroying this planet. You can check any number of sources and any number of science journals, articles or studies on the topic. That is a FACT. No disputing it. No way around it. No alternative truth beside it. IT IS A FACT.
And you can say what you want and lie to yourself as much as you want it will not change that simple FACT.
Then again someone like you probably believes that evolution is a hoax and that God created us all less than 6000 years ago so theres really no point in discussing it any further... keep on living in ignorance calling people who disagree with you left wing liberals. Id take being called that over being an extreme right wing nutjob any day.
If the world is left to people like Trump (and his supports - such as you) this planet is doomed. And that has nothing to do with any political agenda - that too is a FACT.

Again you don't win an argument by putting words into my mouth & then telling me I'm wrong.

I said I don't deny climate change YOU said I deny it. Not Me!

God? Wrong again! Didn't I say billions of years? Ice age? Remember you just quoted it! I personally don't believe there is any man in the sky.

You don't win arguments by putting words in my mouth & then telling me I'm wrong!

[slokor]

You denied climate change has anything to do with humanity. And you stated that ignoring it is the way to go.
Or did I miss something? If I did then by all means clarify it.
As for you not believing in God - Kudos. First sensible thing Ive heard from you.
And I want to ask you for your personal opinion - do you think that with Trump it the white house the world has become:
A. a safer more stable place. OR
B. a less stable and more dangerous place.
Just choose A or B please - I don't want to get into a whole argument and you're entitled to your opinion. I myself would select A in response to the question above. I'm just wondering what your response would be - without any populism involved.

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by slokor

You denied climate change has anything to do with humanity. And you stated that ignoring it is the way to go.
Or did I miss something? If I did then by all means clarify it.
As for you not believing in God - Kudos. First sensible thing Ive heard from you.
And I want to ask you for your personal opinion - do you think that with Trump it the white house the world has become:
A. a safer more stable place. OR
B. a less stable and more dangerous place.
Just choose A or B please - I don't want to get into a whole argument and you're entitled to your opinion. I myself would select A in response to the question above. I'm just wondering what your response would be - without any populism involved.

Yes you missed a few things, go back & read.

Your second question? neither. the world is no safer or more dangerous than last month.

[BigCJ]

Beginning of February in NYC - ranges from 20 degrees to 39 degrees....
Going to be 60 this wednesday.... NO GLOBAL WARMING HERE!

[slokor]

I dont think I missed anything regarding your position on climate change.
If I did then you can write and clarify exactly what your position is.
Not that it matters.
Im done wasting my time on a pointless discussion. i have my opinions and you have yours and the way things are looking and the divisive nature of this new administration I doubt people from opposing camps have any chance of bridging those gaps. Sad really.

[MM78]

Trump sure does like to make sh*t up!



What actually happened?
A man attacked a soldier with two machetes. It wasn’t in the Louvre Museum, it was in the Carrousel du Louvre, which is a mall. He didn’t attack any tourist or french people -apart from the soldier- either,and he was instantly attacked back by another soldier, and wounded. The man is from Egypt, how about them apples.

[phaz0rz]

This thread seriously needs to be closed. I would have never dreamed so many entrepreneurial self-employed individuals would be so liberal with their political views. I can understand opposing Trump. He's probably the most hated person in the country at the moment. For the life of me though I can't understand why any type of business owner would support and root for Democrats. Over the past 30 years the "Democratic" party in the USA has morphed into the "Communist" party, plain and simple. They're all about robbing the rich to prop up the poor.

For that reason I could never support a Democrat. I was disgusted when Bernie Sanders (A SELF-PROCLAIMED COMMUNIST) got as far as he did. He would have literally been thrown into a military prison had he preached his nonsense during the Cold War. I'm young enough to be considered a "millennial" but I paid enough attention in US History to understand the principles our country was founded on. It's insane how quickly the attitudes of younger people have shifted. Many seem to think Communism will be wonderful for the country because they won't have to work hard and they'll get paid $20 an hour for flipping burgers at Burger King. They are totally unable to comprehend the drastic damage to our economy such legislation would create, nearly overnight.

I know you guys and gals are going to keep on bickering. Totally understandable in a political discussion I suppose. I'm not trying to exacerbate any arguments but I wanted to share my perspective. If anyone feels the need to quote me with an argument, I doubt I'll be responding.

[MM78]

Brother Phaz0rz, mad respect for you but in all actuality.....the rich have been getting richer and not poorer. The gap between the Rich and the rest (Middle Class, Poor) have actually been getting wider. Here's an excellent article:

U.S. tax system: Why do the rich just keep on getting richer?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/12/opinio...wealthy-taxes/

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

This thread seriously needs to be closed. I would have never dreamed so many entrepreneurial self-employed individuals would be so liberal with their political views. I can understand opposing Trump. He's probably the most hated person in the country at the moment. For the life of me though I can't understand why any type of business owner would support and root for Democrats. Over the past 30 years the "Democratic" party in the USA has morphed into the "Communist" party, plain and simple. They're all about robbing the rich to prop up the poor.

For that reason I could never support a Democrat. I was disgusted when Bernie Sanders (A SELF-PROCLAIMED COMMUNIST) got as far as he did. He would have literally been thrown into a military prison had he preached his nonsense during the Cold War. I'm young enough to be considered a "millennial" but I paid enough attention in US History to understand the principles our country was founded on. It's insane how quickly the attitudes of younger people have shifted. Many seem to think Communism will be wonderful for the country because they won't have to work hard and they'll get paid $20 an hour for flipping burgers at Burger King. They are totally unable to comprehend the drastic damage to our economy such legislation would create, nearly overnight.

I know you guys and gals are going to keep on bickering. Totally understandable in a political discussion I suppose. I'm not trying to exacerbate any arguments but I wanted to share my perspective. If anyone feels the need to quote me with an argument, I doubt I'll be responding.

You are absolutely correct. There is a reason they (democrats) are so worried about controlling the educational system & defiant against school choice & civics classes.

Because if students where given civics classes, and learned about Taxes, the value of the dollar & basic economics, they would NEVER vote for a democrat again!

[MM78]

Originally Posted by jojo2012

You are absolutely correct. There is a reason they (democrats) are so worried about controlling the educational system & defiant against school choice & civics classes.

Because if students where given civics classes, and learned about Taxes, the value of the dollar & basic economics, they would NEVER vote for a democrat again!

No my friend, YOUR correct. There should only be 1 Political Party to make decisions for our Country....that's true Democracy.

[jojo2012]

Originally Posted by MM78

Brother Phaz0rz, mad respect for you but in all actuality.....the rich have been getting richer and not poorer. The gap between the Rich and the rest (Middle Class, Poor) have actually been getting wider. Here's an excellent article:

U.S. tax system: Why do the rich just keep on getting richer?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/12/opinio...wealthy-taxes/

Interesting read:
I wonder Why would anyone want to be on the poor side??

[MM78]

Originally Posted by jojo2012

Interesting read:
I wonder Why would anyone want to be on the poor side??

As always you're right, take these so called Native Americans.......crying about the Buffalo being killed close to extinction.....sorry "Natives", could of been like the Settlers and made a sh*t-ton of money by killing these animals and selling the hides....then they had the audacity to bitch about being moved, sorry progress trumps everything....get it "Trump" haha.

Slaves, sorry....if you didn't want to be exploited you should of ran faster back in your Homeland, tough. Worst, they had be freed and stuff but those Plantation Owners did have a good run there, and were able to make a killing!

[dealagreeproceed]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

For that reason I could never support a Democrat. I was disgusted when Bernie Sanders (A SELF-PROCLAIMED COMMUNIST) got as far as he did. He would have literally been thrown into a military prison had he preached his nonsense during the Cold War. I'm young enough to be considered a "millennial" but I paid enough attention in US History to understand the principles our country was founded on. It's insane how quickly the attitudes of younger people have shifted. Many seem to think Communism will be wonderful for the country because they won't have to work hard and they'll get paid $20 an hour for flipping burgers at Burger King. They are totally unable to comprehend the drastic damage to our economy such legislation would create, nearly overnight.

FEEL THE BERN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[yotano211]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

This thread seriously needs to be closed. I would have never dreamed so many entrepreneurial self-employed individuals would be so liberal with their political views. I can understand opposing Trump. He's probably the most hated person in the country at the moment. For the life of me though I can't understand why any type of business owner would support and root for Democrats. Over the past 30 years the "Democratic" party in the USA has morphed into the "Communist" party, plain and simple. They're all about robbing the rich to prop up the poor.

For that reason I could never support a Democrat. I was disgusted when Bernie Sanders (A SELF-PROCLAIMED COMMUNIST) got as far as he did. He would have literally been thrown into a military prison had he preached his nonsense during the Cold War. I'm young enough to be considered a "millennial" but I paid enough attention in US History to understand the principles our country was founded on. It's insane how quickly the attitudes of younger people have shifted. Many seem to think Communism will be wonderful for the country because they won't have to work hard and they'll get paid $20 an hour for flipping burgers at Burger King. They are totally unable to comprehend the drastic damage to our economy such legislation would create, nearly overnight.

I know you guys and gals are going to keep on bickering. Totally understandable in a political discussion I suppose. I'm not trying to exacerbate any arguments but I wanted to share my perspective. If anyone feels the need to quote me with an argument, I doubt I'll be responding.

Communism will never work, The most common and simple explanation for why communism failed is that people are greedy. This is a gross simplification but does contain some truth.

Communism failed to provide incentives for workers and citizens to work hard and be productive. While there are many benefits from equality, if pushed to an extreme it robs people of an incentive to make an effort. There was little if any reward for hard work or innovation and a lack of punishment for poor or inefficient work. The lack of incentives was a major reason for the poor performance of Eastern Europe economies. Why bother working hard if the reward was the same as doing the bare minimal.