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BlackLion 03-27-2017 08:49 AM

The American Dream Never Existed & Is An Illusion To The Majority of the Nation
 
In a recent survey, 56 percent of Americans said they have less than $1,000 in their checking and savings accounts combined, Forbes reports. Nearly a quarter (24.8 percent) have less than $100 to their name. Meanwhile, 38 percent said they would pay less than their full credit card balance this month, and 11 percent said they would make the minimum payment—meaning they would likely be mired in debt for years and pay more in interest than they originally borrowed. It paints a daunting picture of the average American coming out of the spend-heavy holiday season: steeped in credit card debt, living paycheck-to-paycheck, at serious risk of financial ruin if the slightest thing goes wrong.

It's a reminder that, while the larger economy has steadily recovered from the Great Recession, the gains have not yet surfaced at the local level. Another study reports that just 65 of the 3,069 counties in the U.S. have fully recovered from the near-collapse in 2008. But it also speaks to the enduring effect of decades of wage stagnation, when many Americans' pay has not kept up with inflation and they have been left further and further behind.

Source: http://www.esquire.com/news-politics...ess-than-1000/

empirestate 03-27-2017 10:24 AM

Re: The American Dream Never Existed & Is An Illusion To The Majority of the Nation
 
The rich and powerful only gained.

nate 03-27-2017 11:28 AM

Re: The American Dream Never Existed & Is An Illusion To The Majority of the Nation
 
If only I could get my wife and daughter to understand that:ballchain:.... They're like: "F#%K IT! Make it Rain...."

rsot 03-27-2017 07:32 PM

Re: The American Dream Never Existed & Is An Illusion To The Majority of the Nation
 
American Nightmare?

mine 03-28-2017 03:26 AM

Re: The American Dream Never Existed & Is An Illusion To The Majority of the Nation
 
So there's just one simple solution to avoid all that pain. Be rich.

BlackLion 10-05-2017 02:03 PM

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I want you all to read this again to let it soak in

mc_vobla 10-05-2017 02:34 PM

Re: The American Dream Never Existed & Is An Illusion To The Majority of the Nation
 
I like to call it american opportunity. I read yesterday that there is 11 million millionaires(who have more than 1 mil) in USA and a population of 320 mil, so every 30th person is a millionaire or every 300th person has more than 5 mil, all according to statistics, thats a huge difference compared to country where I come from. This survey is flawed, you can't base your opinion on that piece of nonsense, maybe i'm wrong though.

All I can say is that people in america seem to take the opportunity given to them for granted and don't respect it and also want to gain more, but put less effort in their activity.

Verificationguy 05-06-2018 11:23 PM

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5% always outwork the other 95 in my opinion regardless of economy winners always win

Sunspot144 05-10-2018 09:31 PM

Re: The American Dream Never Existed & Is An Illusion To The Majority of the Nation
 
Percents based on what? Survey of bums? You can twist the numbers however you want, that article is nothing but clickbait for affiliate links.

H4ck 05-20-2018 02:02 AM

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the american dream to me is.........

having a huge pair of DD or DDD natural white tits in my face and having a white girl ride me like an animal......die young in this life while getting to enjoy most of pretty much everything already.....

slokor 05-20-2018 03:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jarsky541 (Post 921016)
the american dream to me is.........

having a huge pair of DD or DDD natural white tits in my face and having a white girl ride me like an animal......die young in this life while getting to enjoy most of pretty much everything already.....

So if she was Asian or Black it wouldn't work for you? I doubt it lol
On a more serious note - the problem is the gap between the poor and the rich is growing. The middle class as it was known in the 50's 60's and 70's is pretty much gone and we are left with a very large segment that would be considered lower class and a narrow band at top of the well off.
The American dream was all about being able to start at the bottom and work your way to top if you worked hard enough at it but today that has become exponentially more difficult and it kind of feels that those at the top are perpetuating this ever expanding gap in order to maintain their positon at the top.

H4ck 05-20-2018 03:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 921018)
So if she was Asian or Black it wouldn't work for you? I doubt it lol
On a more serious note - the problem is the gap between the poor and the rich is growing. The middle class as it was known in the 50's 60's and 70's is pretty much gone and we are left with a very large segment that would be considered lower class and a narrow band at top of the well off.
The American dream was all about being able to start at the bottom and work your way to top if you worked hard enough at it but today that has become exponentially more difficult and it kind of feels that those at the top are perpetuating this ever expanding gap in order to maintain their positon at the top.

your standards are way too high......just get a nice girl with a nice butt and gorgeous huge natural pair of tits riding you then go buy some filet mignon with some A1 and then die a happy man......as you can tell I have exceeded my expectation of the "american dream".

FYI slokor asian girls dont have big tits.......

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H4ck 05-20-2018 11:30 PM

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at my age now, all i want to do is drive a decent sports car, have sex with a lot of hot women in every nasty way, travel to some places, and die in a cardboard box at the age of 30........i dont want to live past 30.

aspkin 05-21-2018 12:03 AM

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Perspective is everything, right?

Some want the American Dream, some like like Jarsky541 wants "is drive a decent sports car, have sex with a lot of hot women in every nasty way, travel to some places, and die in a cardboard box at the age of 30........i dont want to live past 30."

Cool.

Life is what you make it. If that's what you want than you can have it. That's easier than being a millionaire in most cases. Maybe the American Dream needs to be adjusted. Maybe it needs to be more attainable.

I'm still trying to figure out what that means to me. So far I understand life is about happiness. And happiness is balance. Balance between your health, finances and family. If you can balance those three things well, you have happiness in most cases. I think that's all we can ask for.

H4ck 05-21-2018 02:16 AM

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thank you professor xavier......


https://image.ibb.co/j2Unao/DTx_AKx1_VAAAuq0_S.jpg

If I ever decide to become a crime-fighting sh1t swizzler, who rooms with a bunch of other little whiners at Neverland Mansion with some creepy, old, bald, Heaven's Gate-looking motherfuqer... on that day, I'll send your shiny, happy a5s a friend request!:thumb:

yotano211 05-21-2018 07:40 AM

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My dream is to own a 35 foot sailboat and sail around the world.
I am already going to taking sailing lessons in the summer time in Florida. You'll all will see in on youtube very soon.

yankee 05-21-2018 07:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yotano211 (Post 921213)
My dream is to own a 35 foot sailboat and sail around the world.
I am already going to taking sailing lessons in the summer time in Florida. You'll all will see in on youtube very soon.

It is actually quite doable isnt it?!?!?

When I tell people I have traveled across the USA and operate business CHEAPER that staying at my old area of residence, most people find it unbelievable.

I love your dream because to me, now, life is all about experiences!

yotano211 05-21-2018 08:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 921215)
It is actually quite doable isnt it?!?!?

When I tell people I have traveled across the USA and operate business CHEAPER that staying at my old area of residence, most people find it unbelievable.

I love your dream because to me, now, life is all about experiences!

Its very cheap to live on a sailboat. Some harbors in TX will only charge you $200-300 per month for a marina slot with full electric hook up.
I have always been the lone traveler in my family. That one person who travels by car and sleeps in it. It might take longer to get where you want but you get more photos along the journey.
My girlfriend wants to travel to Florida this summer, she'll fly there and I'll drive. She will only stay for 2 weeks then she goes back to work, me, I get to maybe stay for a few months, learn how to sail or even maybe buy one. naa...not yet.

I know 1 person who has been sailing for 7 years circumventing the world's oceans with his own boat called Delos. He has his own youtube channel.

H4ck 05-22-2018 10:15 AM

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my expectations of the american dream is very minimal.....the fact that i am still alive and breathing i think I have exceeded the american dream.


i came from a broken family and broken home.....

yotano211 05-22-2018 12:51 PM

Re: The American Dream Never Existed & Is An Illusion To The Majority of the Nation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jarsky541 (Post 921363)
my expectations of the american dream is very minimal.....the fact that i am still alive and breathing i think I have exceeded the american dream.


i came from a broken family and broken home.....

The American dream for me is more than any life in my old country of Cuba. I moved to the US when I was 5. I cannt say that I live a rich live but for me, I'm rich enough. I drive a good car, live happily in a good area, now if I can only lose about 20lb. I'll work on that when I get back home.

flipski 07-10-2018 12:36 PM

Re: The American Dream Never Existed & Is An Illusion To The Majority of the Nation
 
the american dream isnt all about having money in the bank. The american dream is mostly a term used by people who came from outside the country looking for better opportunities to life, most importantly, freedom, which is hard to come by in the same aspect that it is practiced here in the US


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