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Default Trump orders crackdown on counterfeit sales online.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1RF1V7




The day I saw the spat between Jeff Bezos and Trump I knew this day will come.


My thoughts on this are the following: Major e-commerce platforms will start taking some new measures to shield themselves from lawsuits and governmental regulations. These I suppose will range from suspending accounts to setting up special units with LE.

So if you're selling cakes, I would suggest you wind down your activity for a while in order to protect your accounts. I heard a lot of gossip that LE has been purchasing stuff online as part of an investigation which will eventually turn into a report to be put on Trump's desk by Nov/2019.


It's sadly funny how Trump is coming after his political opponents. Amazon & eBay have done everything on their part to protect rights owners (who have the ability to shut down accounts with clicks). So I don't know what else Trump wants in this regard!!



What are your thoughts on this?



P.S: Do you think this is US-exclusive, or will this reach Europe as well?
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I hope this will turn out to be all talk with no action as was the case with most of Trump's ventures.
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I hope this will turn out to be all talk with no action as was the case with most of Trump's ventures.
This single comment makes you seem awful dumb but I know you are not dumb just happen to be ignorant on what actually happens in the USA.
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This single comment makes you seem awful dumb but I know you are not dumb just happen to be ignorant on what actually happens in the USA.


I am not talking about the economic situation... I know the economy is doing good under Trump. By ventures I mean for example the attempt to stop immigrants & drugs from crossing the border.


To be honest I don't want Trump doing anything with Amazon or eBay. I don't want those two companies to start banning accounts based on a feedback that a product was ⊗⊗⊗⊗ just to be in compliance with a new legislation.


Imagine a Vero program on steroid, that would be disastrous for all sellers regardless if they sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or not. That will open the gates more for abuse IMHO.
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To be honest I don't want Trump doing anything with Amazon or eBay.
Amazon and eBay are their own entities - they know how to handle upstarts...whether sellers or...politicians
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Trump's angry ecommerce reduces in-store traffic.
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I hope it happens. It will specifically target places like Ioffer and DHgate is my best guess.

I read the exact words he said on Wednesday. I like what he is doing. Safety items such as airbags was a huge problem recently. Low quality children toys, dangerous foods, all sorts of synthetic drugs etc... all very dangerous and expensive to people in the USA and around the rest of the world.

after the 210 days is up, we will see what the plan is. It is not going to be stronger customs, it is not going to be crackdown on USA retailers and net sellers. It will be more about where the items come from and how the money leaves the USA is my guess.

We will know if anything comes from it is about 207 days
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We will know if anything comes from it is about 207 days
I think that part is key.
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I hope it happens. It will specifically target places like Ioffer and DHgate is my best guess.

I read the exact words he said on Wednesday. I like what he is doing. Safety items such as airbags was a huge problem recently. Low quality children toys, dangerous foods, all sorts of synthetic drugs etc... all very dangerous and expensive to people in the USA and around the rest of the world.

after the 210 days is up, we will see what the plan is. It is not going to be stronger customs, it is not going to be crackdown on USA retailers and net sellers. It will be more about where the items come from and how the money leaves the USA is my guess.

We will know if anything comes from it is about 207 days
It is actually a good thing. Less competition. Higher quality gains buyer trust and larger profit margins on the same goods. Still waiting for Ebay to step up their regulation game. They're miles behind Amazon.
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Well, to say that the wild west of counterfeiting must be dealt with and for good is a wild statement IMHO.

The only viable way to stop counterfeiting is to bring US manufacturing back to the US. As long as US factories are operating from within China, their Chinese partners will always have insight on trade secrets and thus will pass it to Chinese counterfeiters. Another step would be to strengthen US customs and border enforcement agencies.


Punishing eBay or Amazon for something they can't control might alleviate symptoms, but it won't cure the disease at all. Both companies have already granted unlimited rights to rights owners in terms of taking listings down. Policing a platform like Amazon is impossible to do due to the massive number of sellers and their listings.
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Cakes?

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I despise people that sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and counterfeit goods.

Plenty of money to be made just flipping legitimate items. Go and find a product. Add value to it. The formula could not be any easier than that, seriously.
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LE= Law enforcement.
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Jesus. I don't know anything! haha
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Who said Trump said anything about ebay or amazon on Wednesday?

He asked two agencies to investigate what could be done about intellectual property rights being violated in the USA via counterfeit.

The leap that he is attacking anyone is solely in ones imagination. The idea that ebay and amazon is going to change over a 210 day investigation into protection intellectual property rights owners is somewhat silly. How are they going to change policy based on a guess of what might come from an investigation into anything and everything?
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I do hope that counterfeit sellers stop selling though based on this Comment LOL

If only criminals cared about what anyone else thinks or wants LOL
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1. Trump didn't think no nexus tax was okay
2. Trump trying to end China/US Postal Treaty
3. Now tightening IP countermeasures. How many supermarkets can you go to that sell phakes? And how much money do ebay/Amazon still make vs spend dealing with phakes.

Trump openly shows he doesnt like Jeff on twitter lol. And all of those hurt ecommerce platforms via their sellers. He's certainly directly or indirectly trying to make profits smaller.
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The man is using tariffs and threats of regulations as a weapon against his foes!!
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I despise people that sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and counterfeit goods.

Plenty of money to be made just flipping legitimate items. Go and find a product. Add value to it. The formula could not be any easier than that, seriously.
Although I agree with you, I think despise is a harsh word. Let people do what they want, they are grown ups and can make their own decisions, and they are fully aware of the risks.

When I first joined this forum it seemed I was one of the few that was NOT selling cakes, lol
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