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Sunspot144 04-15-2019 09:23 PM

Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 

Really interesting. Esp Amazon creating its own shipping company. Imagine being able to control your own shipping expenses :hail:

phaz0rz 04-16-2019 06:19 AM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
I guess they're still at the mercy of fuel costs, but yeah that gives them tons of flexibility. Not only can they deliver their own shipments when it's cheapest, they can use their shipping company as a way to threaten the couriers they've always done business with.

"Give us steeper discounts or we'll just use our own service"

walkingupwards 04-16-2019 07:35 AM

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They are worth 1 trillion because of their stock price. The stock price is what it is because there are people willing to invest their money in the company. As soon as people start realizing that Amazon is not that worthy of their money, they will start pulling out and seeking new investments and that will lead to Amazon's stock price going down.

Jeff Bezos is not really worth 180 billion dollars. This net worth is theoretical. If Amazon's stock price is slashed by 50%, Jeff's net worth will also be. This also applies to Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg or any owner of a publicly traded company (supposing they're fully invested in their own company). The Koch industries for example is a privately held company, the Koch brothers are seriously wealthy and exert excessive amounts of political power as well, Jeff Bezos could only dream of being that much wealthy and powerful, but that may change in the future... who knows!


Having a major company and holding it privately is a way better option than making it publicly traded, but there are very few people who could pull this off.

phaz0rz 04-16-2019 07:45 AM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
I was reading a few weeks ago that Apple being valuated at $1t is a lot more accurate than Amazon being valuated at $1t. Apple has roughly 3x as much cash on hand as Amazon yet the two companies were both recently valuated at $1t. The speculative aspects get confusing..

With that being said Amazon is growing at an unprecedented pace and is dominating new sectors every week. So I can almost understand the investor confidence.

Sunspot144 04-16-2019 08:25 AM

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All things considered AMZ has grown substantially. Microsoft/Apple were founded in the 70's. 35yrs of growth AMZ did in 15. :hail:

I was thinking about what a private AMZ shipping company would do to USPS. Stamps.com stock plummeted when they announced USPS contract termination to create new future opportunities - can only imagine that's going to be with fedex or UPS.

Really only think it's going to get worse for USPS in the future. Which is bad, because a lot of ecommerce sellers rely on "cheap" 4-16oz rates.

Sunspot144 04-16-2019 11:02 AM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 994954)
The Koch industries for example is a privately held company, the Koch brothers are seriously wealthy and exert excessive amounts of political power as well, Jeff Bezos could only dream of being that much wealthy and powerful, but that may change in the future... who knows!


Having a major company and holding it privately is a way better option than making it publicly traded, but there are very few people who could pull this off.

Only thing that came to mind was natural resources and/or owning highly valued research and development patents.

Selling oil or arms would want political influence.

And, PFFT! Koch sells petroleum =}

walkingupwards 04-16-2019 05:29 PM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
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Originally Posted by Sunspot144 (Post 995009)
Only thing that came to mind was natural resources and/or owning highly valued research and development patents.

Selling oil or arms would want political influence.

And, PFFT! Koch sells petroleum =}



Don't underestimate Jeff Bezos though, the man pushed IBM and Oracle out of lucrative contracts with the US government, those two companies are even complaining of the government favoring Amazon.


Jeff used the Amazon marketplace to create this gigantic brand and then expanded it into many different venues that have proven profits.

walkingupwards 04-16-2019 05:34 PM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 994956)
I was reading a few weeks ago that Apple being valuated at $1t is a lot more accurate than Amazon being valuated at $1t. Apple has roughly 3x as much cash on hand as Amazon yet the two companies were both recently valuated at $1t. The speculative aspects get confusing..

With that being said Amazon is growing at an unprecedented pace and is dominating new sectors every week. So I can almost understand the investor confidence.



Apple used to have a huge marketshare for a product that everyone will buy for decades to come, but that is changing rapidly in Europe. Few days ago I searched eBay for a couple hours trying to figure out what smartphones people are buying nowadays and I was shocked that Huawei is selling a ton of units in Germany. It is literally eating up Apple sales over here!

Pedroalva 04-16-2019 09:57 PM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunspot144 (Post 994873)
Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion - YouTube

Really interesting. Esp Amazon creating its own shipping company. Imagine being able to control your own shipping expenses :hail:

I read that Amazon had created already a while ago the courier's service in Italy but was fined because didn't have the licence like the biggest shipping companies, now that has obtained so will be a big issue for the posts that got use to have the monopoly

rsot 04-17-2019 06:47 AM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedroalva (Post 995130)
I read that Amazon had created already a while ago the courier's service in Italy but was fined because didn't have the licence like the biggest shipping companies, now that has obtained so will be a big issue for the posts that got use to have the monopoly

Source of info link?

phaz0rz 04-17-2019 06:49 AM

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rsot 04-17-2019 06:50 AM

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Thanks phaz :thumb:

Pedroalva 04-17-2019 07:30 AM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 995196)
Source of info link?

Yes it was on the newspaper too

Sunspot144 04-17-2019 08:22 AM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
3mo after I started selling on Ebay I thought man, they must have so much data on what people buy and when. But they dont do anything with it. If I had all that data, I'd do exactly what AMZ is doing.

But now iirc it wasn't until Nov 2016 when Ebay pushed product identifiers on sellers. So maybe they weren't collecting any real usable data. Pretty sure they tried selling that it would 'rank you higher' and 'make it easier for people searching by identifiers'. But who really searches by product identifier numbers.

alex45 11-20-2019 08:46 AM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
Economic bubble

chrielwu 01-02-2020 11:54 PM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
Amazon does grow very fast,

rsot 01-03-2020 06:25 AM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrielwu (Post 1058931)
Amazon does grow very fast,

Interesting indeed

agent006140 01-03-2020 02:52 PM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
One regret -buying Wholefood.

alex45 06-16-2022 08:12 AM

Re: Why Amazon is Worth $1 Trillion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrielwu (Post 1058931)
Amazon does grow very fast,

bubble blowing


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