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ebaystealth1974 04-06-2020 02:26 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1083061)
So they managed to have a .5% death rate? What's their secret.


You're smart enough to know that that's not NEARLY enough people to apply an average to.

Maybe no old folks caught it... phuck if I know. Too small of a pool...

walkingupwards 04-06-2020 02:48 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
The solution has been announced by Bill already, he said the crisis won't end until we have a vaccine.

They are now prepping vaccine passports along with digital identification. In the future, you won't be able to go back to normal life if you're not vaccinated.

james13v 04-06-2020 03:09 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 1083069)
The solution has been announced by Bill already, he said the crisis won't end until we have a vaccine.

They are now prepping vaccine passports along with digital identification. In the future, you won't be able to go back to normal life if you're not vaccinated.

Or everyone gets it and gets over it or dies.

ukjay 04-06-2020 04:03 PM

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ukjay 04-06-2020 05:01 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 

rsot 04-07-2020 04:24 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1083079)
Or everyone gets it and gets over it and or dies.

Natural selection then...

james13v 04-07-2020 07:04 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukjay (Post 1083119)

Hey, as long as no one allows anyone from China to come to their countries, more power to them.

james13v 04-07-2020 07:06 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1083216)
Natural selection then...

Pretty much. Now that's of course assuming you can't get it twice. If that happens, we are ****ed.

phaz0rz 04-07-2020 07:08 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Looking more and more each day like this is something that just sits dormant inside you and periodically flares back up. Like the herps.

But who the hell knows. :noidea:

Bigblackdog 04-07-2020 07:11 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
When Spanish Flu hit 100 years ago there were the same comments made as are being made now - this will, eventually, pass and a vacination will be developed

I'm guessing the anti-vaxers will just carry on without it

phaz0rz 04-07-2020 07:12 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
It's scientifically impossible to vaccinate against coronaviruses. Period. Not something science is capable of doing, in 2020.

phaz0rz 04-07-2020 07:14 AM

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Bigblackdog 04-07-2020 07:17 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1083265)
It's scientifically impossible to vaccinate against coronaviruses. Period. Not something science is capable of doing, in 2020.

And your qualification, and the source of information for making this ridiculous statement is what exactly?

phaz0rz 04-07-2020 07:31 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Yeah, yeah, I'm not a doctor. But I've been studying since this started taking off in December and I've learned a few things.

https://i.postimg.cc/DwyYXL33/Untitled.png

(last sentence)

I'm dumb, but I'll try to explain my reasoning for that statement. Countries have been trying (without success) to develop a vaccine for SARS-CoV since 2003. Why would we all of a sudden have the capability of developing a vaccine for SARS' older brother, SARS-CoV-2? Another good example would be MERS. It has a ~30% fatality rate, so there would definitely be incentive to develop a vaccine for it if it were possible, but that's not something we've been able to do, as of yet.

Another thing is the mutation rate. There are already dozens of mutations after a few months of circulation, with 2 known strains. With it mutating so quickly it would be impossible to predict which mutation would need to be vaccinated against for the next season. But that's irrelevant anyway, because the very nature of coronaviruses makes them impossible to vaccinate against.

EDIT: Correction - there are already thousands of mutations going around https://nextstrain.org/ncov

yankee 04-07-2020 08:33 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Many studies suggest this will never go away and it is a new “flu” that will be here on earth forever and ever. Who knows right? Time will tell

Bigblackdog 04-07-2020 08:40 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
When I was a child diptheria and polio were something to be scared of, they had been around on earth for ever - when do we hear of these now. We dont because of vacination - this virus will be beaten in the same way

james13v 04-07-2020 09:23 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
False negative rates are somewhere around 30%. How many false positives are there? They don't seem to talk about such things. If you google, only false negatives come up. Why? Because a false positive is only bad for the patient, so why would anyone else care? False negatives are bad for everyone else.

james13v 04-07-2020 09:27 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1083271)
Yeah, yeah, I'm not a doctor. But I've been studying since this started taking off in December and I've learned a few things.

https://i.postimg.cc/DwyYXL33/Untitled.png

(last sentence)

I'm dumb, but I'll try to explain my reasoning for that statement. Countries have been trying (without success) to develop a vaccine for SARS-CoV since 2003. Why would we all of a sudden have the capability of developing a vaccine for SARS' older brother, SARS-CoV-2? Another good example would be MERS. It has a ~30% fatality rate, so there would definitely be incentive to develop a vaccine for it if it were possible, but that's not something we've been able to do, as of yet.

Another thing is the mutation rate. There are already dozens of mutations after a few months of circulation, with 2 known strains. With it mutating so quickly it would be impossible to predict which mutation would need to be vaccinated against for the next season. But that's irrelevant anyway, because the very nature of coronaviruses makes them impossible to vaccinate against.

EDIT: Correction - there are already thousands of mutations going around https://nextstrain.org/ncov

Well, at least the odds of the virus mutating in such a way that it actually becomes more lethal or contagious, aren't very high.

james13v 04-07-2020 09:31 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1083290)
Smallpox has been pretty well managed, if mankind decided to tackle CV19 to achieve the same results I suspect they will.

Maybe divert the efforts being put into finding a 'cure' for AIDS into this more pressing illness.

As I've said before, something needs to thin out the population, we're heading towards standing room only at an alarming rate.

The shame with this virus is it isn't targeting the parts of the population that could do with a good cull.

as soon as covid has a fatality rate of 30%, and the majority of survivors having deep pitted scars on their face, I'm sure we would manage this virus just as well as smallpox lol

As far as population sizes. No, no we aren't heading for standing room only. It all comes down to logistics. If we really wanted to, we could double our population and still have enough resources to spare. But that would require global communism, that actually works. Look at America. We throw away half our food lol.

There is more than enough for what we need. But not enough for what we want.

ebaystealth1974 04-07-2020 10:37 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1083302)
There is more than enough for what we need. But not enough for what we want.

Consumerism is one of our biggest downfalls.

Unfortunately, most of us here live off the consumerism of others lol. I hate it, but it feeds me.


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