Corona Virus

walkingupwards · #**177** 02-29-2020

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Originally Posted by dan_ebay

Update: Economy heading for the ****ter.

Expect a lot of countries are under reporting casess or just don't know about them. I live in the Philippines, supposedly just a few cases but expect it's already killed atleast 100 people, there's Chinese people everywhere here and the 'health care' here would probably just spread it around faster lol.

Can't agree more, no country wants to crash its economy by declaring the real numbers.

The real kill rate of COVID-19 is anywhere between 10-18%. The R0 (reproduction rate) of this virus is still unknown due the recent nature of this outbreak, 3+% wouldn't surprise me at all.

Let's see what happens, what a strange age we are living in

phaz0rz · #**178** 02-29-2020

This paper estimates an R0 between 4.7 - 6.6...

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....07.20021154v1

And then this one from 2 days later estimates between 6.11 - 8.18...

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....12.20022434v1

An R0 somewhere closer to that range makes more sense to me, given the exponential spread we've been seeing every time Covid starts taking off in a new region.

Let's hope their estimate is wrong.

walkingupwards · #**179** 02-29-2020

Everything we say now is pointless. If people can't govern themselves, someone else will do it for them.

They engineered and released it against us without thinking twice about a possible reaction. They have been testing public awareness for ages now and they came to the conclusion that +90% of the population is not conscious.

I mean they got away with 9/11 and all of this artificial terrorism bull****, why won't they get away with a "flu" pandemic!

If they pull this off (And I am sure they will), what stops them from unleashing a far deadlier virus in the future and maybe murdering the vast majority of humans if deemed necessary?

I am not a religious person, but lately I think I am starting to believe that the devil is a real thing!

ebaystealth1974 · #**180** 02-29-2020

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

At this pace there will be over 100k cases outside of China within 12 days.

Never gonna happen. Pace slows once outbreak begins.

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Originally Posted by walkingupwards

The R0 (reproduction rate) of this virus is still unknown due the recent nature of this outbreak, 3+% wouldn't surprise me at all.

R-naught values aren't expressed as a percent. Just an FYI

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

An R0 somewhere closer to that range makes more sense to me, given the exponential spread we've been seeing every time Covid starts taking off in a new region.

Let's hope their estimate is wrong.

I can't imagine there being a better chance of this virus spreading than with the people on that cruise ship. And it seems like they came up with something around an R0 of 2-3.

walkingupwards · #**181** 03-01-2020

I don't think all people on that cruise ship got tested. I would love to know if central Africa has cases or not, that would tell us how hot weather will affect this virus. Nigeria has reported 1 case so far, but I am not sure if that's due to lack of testing or what!

I just want this thing to disappear and business to go back to normal :-/

phaz0rz · #**182** 03-01-2020

It spread so badly on the cruise ship because of the pseudo-quarantine that was setup. There were no proper red/green zones on the ship once cases started to increase so a rapid spread was inevitable.

Dr. Kentaro Iwata (an infectious disease specialist who is a professor at Japan's Kobe University) posted a video on Youtube a week or two ago describing the disaster of a situation on that ship. He was forced by the Japanese government to leave the ship despite being the most qualified person to deal with the outbreak. The Japanese government put bureaucrats in charge of dealing with the situation rather than medical professionals and the results were disastrous.

YouTube

direct link - youtube.com/watch?v=z7QUKFF2wS0

phaz0rz · #**183** 03-01-2020

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Originally Posted by agent006140

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who is THey>
You keep talking about THEY??

He's referring to the small group of powerful individuals and/or organizations responsible for pushing the "new world order" agenda, wherein the entire world will eventually speak 1 common language and be ruled by 1 totalitarian government based in a certain middle eastern country.

I'm not necessarily saying I agree with that particular interpretation, but I'm pretty sure that's the group he keeps alluding to.

walkingupwards · #**184** 03-01-2020

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Originally Posted by agent006140

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who is THey>
You keep talking about THEY??

The ones who will throw your ass in jail if you don't pay your taxes.

The ones who decide when your country will go to war and why.

The ones who blew 100+ billions dollars on biological warfare programs without you knowing anything about it.

The ones who destroyed the economy of your country and built China with your tax money.

Dots connecting by now?

ebaystealth1974 · #**185** 03-01-2020

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

He's referring to the small group of powerful individuals and/or organizations responsible for pushing the "new world order" agenda, wherein the entire world will eventually speak 1 common language and be ruled by 1 totalitarian government based in a certain middle eastern country.

I'm not necessarily saying I agree with that particular interpretation, but I'm pretty sure that's the group he keeps alluding to.

I've been hearing about the NWO since the 80s. I guess they are just taking their sweet time.

walkingupwards · #**186** 03-01-2020

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Originally Posted by agent006140

please do not talk with your mouth full-
American consumers have done a great job making China rich,there are more billioniares in China than anyplace else,thanks to the relentless usage of MC,VISA,DISCOVERY,AMEX by US.
LOOK around your house,ask yourself,must you have this pair of sneaker,hoodies, ipod,iphone,microwave oven,tv set in each room,electric can opener,toaster oven,wall clocks,even down to scissors,needles and threads.

These things used to be made where the consumer is. So you don't want to see these jobs come back or what? Ooh I forgot, Obama said they can never come back

There is a hidden price for the cheap Chinese stuff you buy at your local Walmart.

ebaystealth1974 · #**187** 03-01-2020

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Originally Posted by tinsoldier

do you mean the 1380's.

Hey, I'm not THAT old!

phaz0rz · #**188** 03-01-2020

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Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974

I've been hearing about the NWO since the 80s. I guess they are just taking their sweet time.

A project of such a large scale would take a long time to put into place. The public has to be slowly convinced that one world government is in their best interests through decades of senseless and mostly artificial conflicts. It really started taking off as WW2 was coming to an end.. and it's been steadily progressing since then.

Just my take.

Pandoras_box · #**189** 03-01-2020

It took over 200,000 years of human history for the world's population to reach 1 billion, and only 200 years more to reach 7 billion. If you think there are a group of people meticulously steering the world affairs, you must also agree that they have been asleep at the wheels.

Governments oppress their citizens.
Political parties spend too much time disagreeing.
Corporations are so corrupt and greedy its sickening.
Groups and people increasingly disagree on almost everything.
Countries have nuclear weapons pointed at other countries. Only mutually assured destruction has ensured peace.

When everyone in a room has a gun pointed at the other person's head; clearly, no one is in charge.

Some are looking for a father-figure to blame for the world's troubles, so they came up with the Illuminati.
Others are looking for a grandfather figure to save us, and they've come up with god.

As Carl Sagan would say, "Better by far to embrace the hard truth than a reassuring fable."

walkingupwards · #**190** 03-01-2020

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Originally Posted by Pandoras_box

Some are looking for a father-figure to blame for the world's troubles, so they came up with the Illuminati."

The Illuminati is real, the Bilderberg group is real and the NWO is real too

Pandoras_box · #**191** 03-01-2020

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Originally Posted by walkingupwards

The Illuminati is real, the Bilderberg group is real and the NWO is real too

Exist or existed? Probably yes.
In control of the planet? No.
The planet is rudderless - and that's more devasting for me.

ebaystealth1974 · #**192** 03-01-2020

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

A project of such a large scale would take a long time to put into place. The public has to be slowly convinced that one world government is in their best interests through decades of senseless and mostly artificial conflicts. It really started taking off as WW2 was coming to an end.. and it's been steadily progressing since then.

Just my take.

I feel like there are people who WANT it to happen, but it never will. There have never been more mindless sheeple than there currently is. What are they waiting on?

phaz0rz · #**193** 03-01-2020

3/1/20 chart of cases outside of China, for posterity's sake:

6.8k yesterday, 8.5k today. Something like 1200 new cases in South Korea alone over the last 12 hours.

**aspkin** · #**194** 03-02-2020

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

3/1/20 chart of cases outside of China, for posterity's sake:

6.8k yesterday, 8.5k today. Something like 1200 new cases in South Korea alone over the last 12 hours.

I think China has it figured out and will soon have it under control.

The rest of the world doesn't have the power china has and won't be able to control the virus as well.. if the summer heat doesn't stop the virus, things could go bad quick.

walkingupwards · #**195** 03-02-2020

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Originally Posted by aspkin

I think China has it figured out and will soon have it under control.

The rest of the world doesn't have the power china has and won't be able to control the virus as well.. if the summer heat doesn't stop the virus, things could go bad quick.

According the numbers published by the Chinese government, the virus has peaked already. However, there is still a chance it will rebound when people start going back to schools and work. Hopefully hot temperatures will make this virus disappear soon

ebaystealth1974 · #**196** 03-02-2020

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

6.8k yesterday, 8.5k today. Something like 1200 new cases in South Korea alone over the last 12 hours.

12 hours? Your chart looks like 3-day intervals.

phaz0rz · #**197** 03-02-2020

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Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974

12 hours? Your chart looks like 3-day intervals.

They are daily updates. There are multiple data points between each of the dates listed along the bottom.

I said 12hrs instead of 24hrs because I'd been watching the numbers grow throughout the day yesterday.

This is the source of the chart I've been posting, if anyone's curious: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

ebaystealth1974 · #**198** 03-02-2020

Ahhh, I see!