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eternity4u 12-25-2010 06:08 PM

No wonder Paypal and Ebay are strict becuase of these damn loser who make things hard for others....

First Edition 12-25-2010 07:19 PM

Certainly there is a line between what this guy did and what you and I do everyday... sure. If you're not greedy, get a job at taco bell and get a reliable income.

Gordon Gecko said it best... "Greed is good."
Don't tell me you're not greedy. Everyone loves more money.

If these people made this much money committing blatantly illegal things, at some point they should have cashed out and started a different legit business.


We are not arguing, we are discussing.

incniu 12-25-2010 09:04 PM

Right.

1) He is not 100% stealth.

2) He has lots of other illegal things involved.

3) "The company’s system did not catch this fraud until it had sustained hundreds of thousands of dollars in auction fee losses."





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Originally Posted by webgoon (Post 192393)
I guess he didn't get the steath book and read the section on paying fees and staying under the radar and not attracting attention...=P


incniu 12-25-2010 09:14 PM


123 12-25-2010 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by incniu (Post 192670)

Those are just plain dumb tactics. Collecting the cash but never sending anything and repeating it to acquire thousands of stolen dollars, obviously going to get caught eventually. Deserved it too. :violin:

jeffweico 12-25-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by incniu (Post 192670)

Ummm.... This one was from the year 2000.

But yes, over the years there have been many such cases. Whatever eBay does, there will always be fraud. Fraud has been a problem since the dawn of time, it is not a product of the internet.

First Edition 12-25-2010 09:49 PM

I've stuck ebay for fees before... sure. I refused to pay because they kicked me off! How dare they? I don't think refusing to pay an invoice in itself is fraud. Shouldn't ebay have a certain responsibility at some point to suspend selling privileges when an invoice goes unpaid? What if this man set up an LLC or corporation to accept liability for the fees?

incniu 12-25-2010 10:23 PM

I think it is all up to the AMOUNT..


If you donot ship half a million $$$ of items, surely it is a problem.


If you donot ship 15 items, then you can say different kinds of excuses


Quote:

Originally Posted by 123 (Post 192672)
Those are just plain dumb tactics. Collecting the cash but never sending anything and repeating it to acquire thousands of stolen dollars, obviously going to get caught eventually. Deserved it too. :violin:


incniu 12-25-2010 10:27 PM

Again, a fraud in legal meaning is when it reaches a certain amount.


Not paying $900 Ebay fee,,, different from not paying $90K Ebay fee.





Quote:

Originally Posted by First Edition (Post 192679)
I've stuck ebay for fees before... sure. I refused to pay because they kicked me off! How dare they? I don't think refusing to pay an invoice in itself is fraud. Shouldn't ebay have a certain responsibility at some point to suspend selling privileges when an invoice goes unpaid? What if this man set up an LLC or corporation to accept liability for the fees?



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