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GrannyT 09-06-2012 07:55 AM

No wonder they get copied
 

rsot 09-06-2012 10:17 AM

Sick article GTran - you headed this way too? :eek:

GrannyT 09-06-2012 11:43 AM

:lol: Not me Lumberjack - I'm too old for all that stress. I'll stick to knitting patterns, skirting board ladders and cockerel eggs. Not much profit but not much hassle :lol:

slim jim 09-06-2012 12:04 PM

The power of marketing

GrannyT 09-06-2012 12:15 PM

It's amazing isn't it? Until now I had only heard of them on threads on this forum.

My gaster is well and truly flabbered that there is such demand.

Can see why EB take the view that they do

Lawsuits R Us comes to mind

unkown5454 09-06-2012 12:32 PM

He bought his stake back from HTC because they no longer wanted it since it did not improve their sales at all and almost became a complete loss. They sold it to him for extremely cheap so it was a no brainer to gain full control of it again.

Just felt like I needed to correct that part because they made it seem like he bought all $300+ million back. I believe they sold it back for less than $100mil.

slim jim 09-06-2012 03:18 PM

who said rappers don't know business :) will it be a fad? who knows. it's the same idea as apple, sell the same product as others for more $ because of a name and perception. bless them but i can not see any company surviving like this forever. yes i am saying apple will not last forever, at least not with this current business model.

SUVE 09-06-2012 03:43 PM

Quote:

Dr Dre has built a headphones empire that paid him $110million last year... no wonder he hasn't finished his new album.
WoW....that is an immense figure to rake in a year, let alone several lifetimes.

GrannyT 09-06-2012 03:46 PM

And Foo-Foo merchants on Ebay raked in an additional $110. million

:lol:

MM78 09-06-2012 03:47 PM


GrannyT 09-06-2012 03:59 PM

It's Top Of The Pops:cheer:

:lol:

unkown5454 09-06-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GrannyT (Post 374168)
And Foo-Foo merchants on Ebay raked in an additional $110. million

:lol:

I wouldn't be surprised if the underground market made 10 times as much as the legitimate channels. The product is too easy to copy and it targets a completely ignorant and naive market.

Like moths, all they see is colors and branding. 99% percent don't have a damn clue about music or sound and no audiophile would ever outright purchase such crap with exorbitant pricing. Luckily for Dre, his position in the entertainment industry has a deep and long history and he has ties to everyone that can sway public opinion.

slim jim 09-06-2012 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 374206)
I wouldn't be surprised if the underground market made 10 times as much as the legitimate channels. The product is too easy to copy and it targets a completely ignorant and naive market.

Like moths, all they see is colors and branding. 99% percent don't have a damn clue about music or sound and no audiophile would ever outright purchase such crap with exorbitant pricing. Luckily for Dre, his position in the entertainment industry has a deep and long history and he has ties to everyone that can sway public opinion.

there were supposedly 2 foo foo types going around. one that if you looked at the packaging had a 'faded' effect to it that would give it away. the second was exact. one or both had different sized boxes as well. it would come down to someone being an audiophile as you said and most would not know the difference. i am a musician and i am not even sure i would know myself but i would also never pay $150 - $400 for headphones

stanislav 09-06-2012 11:14 PM

I am selling beats on eBay .... Anyways ...

I bought Sennheiser HD 650 for 700$.

Great cans... Most headphones on the market do not come close. Now if I had money to buy min amp for them ...

mcmx 09-06-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slim jim (Post 374218)
there were supposedly 2 foo foo types going around. one that if you looked at the packaging had a 'faded' effect to it that would give it away. the second was exact. one or both had different sized boxes as well. it would come down to someone being an audiophile as you said and most would not know the difference. i am a musician and i am not even sure i would know myself but i would also never pay $150 - $400 for headphones

I have a legit pair and accidentally bought a f@ke pair twice. I could easily tell the sound differences. They were terrible. And I'm no audiophile. Maybe I was sold some really bad f@kes but still...

stanislav 09-06-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mcmxcivjm (Post 374279)
I have a legit pair and accidentally bought a f@ke pair twice. I could easily tell the sound differences. They were terrible. And I'm no audiophile. Maybe I was sold some really bad f@kes but still...

I have good sounding studios. What I mean is, they sound almost exactly like the originals. Why do you think it was so easy to replicate Dr Dre headphones? Because they are **** to begin with!

stanislav 09-06-2012 11:45 PM

It's like the majority of people who are clueless thinks BOSS headphones are high end LOL! Not saying Boss is **** but it is by far not at the top.

AmazonStealth 09-07-2012 12:06 AM

Many of you are hypocrites when it comes to business. This are not overpriced in any way possible. If they were overprice, then one man (and that doesnt even include the total revenue generated) would not have made 110+ mil on one product line. I do not own a pair, but owning these is a fashion statement, monetary statement, and trend/fad. Maximizing your profit is the smartest possible thing any business can do. I buy plenty of items for quarters each and my profit is 14,000%.

mcmx 09-07-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 374284)
Many of you are hypocrites when it comes to business. This are not overpriced in any way possible. If they were overprice, then one man (and that doesnt even include the total revenue generated) would not have made 110+ mil on one product line. I do not own a pair, but owning these is a fashion statement, monetary statement, and trend/fad. Maximizing your profit is the smartest possible thing any business can do. I buy plenty of items for quarters each and my profit is 14,000%.

:hail: :amen: :clap:

stanislav 09-07-2012 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 374284)
Many of you are hypocrites when it comes to business. This are not overpriced in any way possible. If they were overprice, then one man (and that doesnt even include the total revenue generated) would not have made 110+ mil on one product line. I do not own a pair, but owning these is a fashion statement, monetary statement, and trend/fad. Maximizing your profit is the smartest possible thing any business can do. I buy plenty of items for quarters each and my profit is 14,000%.

Exactly! It's a fashion statement and they don't sound too bad. Certainly not the best buy good enough. I think Dr Dre took headphones to another level. Seriously. Think about it. Before most if not all headphones had no style whatsoever. They all looked bulky and not very comfortable at times. And look at the new trend of headphones which are all trying to look more stylish than Dr Dre's.

unkown5454 09-07-2012 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 374284)
Many of you are hypocrites when it comes to business. This are not overpriced in any way possible. If they were overprice, then one man (and that doesnt even include the total revenue generated) would not have made 110+ mil on one product line. I do not own a pair, but owning these is a fashion statement, monetary statement, and trend/fad. Maximizing your profit is the smartest possible thing any business can do. I buy plenty of items for quarters each and my profit is 14,000%.

You are crossing two sides of the equation here. Of course business is about maximizing profits. That has nothing to do with a product being overpriced. Overpriced means that, as a normal consumer, I can find an equivalent product for much cheaper in price and perform the exact same.

Unfortunately, once a product crosses over into the fashion world of retail, its resale price no longer has a limit of what's considered affordable. That's where Dre took it. It's no different with Ap.ple or any other exorbitantly overpriced product now. You are no longer just paying for the physical labor or parts the product consists of, you are simply paying what that market deems as acceptable and what the manufacturer knows you are willing to pay to be "different", "trendy" and "exclusive".

It's great for the business, but a massive waste of money for the consumer that is much better spent elsewhere. But, people will continue to be ignorant. I just want to be lucky enough to catch and ride one of those silly brainwashing waves...

user3657 09-07-2012 04:00 AM

I knew they were huge but had no idea.....I always see people with them in airports, they are huge. I honestly chuckle and dont see the point in spending that much money for damn headphones.

AmazonStealth 09-13-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 374292)
You are crossing two sides of the equation here. Of course business is about maximizing profits. That has nothing to do with a product being overpriced. Overpriced means that, as a normal consumer, I can find an equivalent product for much cheaper in price and perform the exact same.

Unfortunately, once a product crosses over into the fashion world of retail, its resale price no longer has a limit of what's considered affordable. That's where Dre took it. It's no different with Ap.ple or any other exorbitantly overpriced product now. You are no longer just paying for the physical labor or parts the product consists of, you are simply paying what that market deems as acceptable and what the manufacturer knows you are willing to pay to be "different", "trendy" and "exclusive".

It's great for the business, but a massive waste of money for the consumer that is much better spent elsewhere. But, people will continue to be ignorant. I just want to be lucky enough to catch and ride one of those silly brainwashing waves...

I can see your point, but you are coming off as that 14 year old kid who thinks they are "retarded", because he either doesnt have them or cant afford them. And I say that because I know multiple peoples children who have them, and personally I dont think it was the greatest idea for several reasons. I then know other peoples children who dont have them and dont have the desire to have them, and they could easily go out and buy a few pairs as if they were going through the fast food window.

On a different subject....Not be racist, but take a look at all the people who are standing outside at 2am to get a pair of the newest jordan shoes. It isnt people with money, a job, life, and goals......

unkown5454 09-13-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 376225)
I can see your point, but you are coming off as that 14 year old kid who thinks they are "retarded", because he either doesnt have them or cant afford them. And I say that because I know multiple peoples children who have them, and personally I dont think it was the greatest idea for several reasons. I then know other peoples children who dont have them and dont have the desire to have them, and they could easily go out and buy a few pairs as if they were going through the fast food window.

I am totally lost at what your point is here. Your argument is that I think they are "retarded"? That makes absolutely no sense and is not at all what I said. They perform fine, just overpriced.

With your last comment, please don't try to make this any kind of pissing contest about who can and can't afford a sorry a*s pair of $150-$400 headphones. Not only is that a completely baseless and ignorant argument, but a large number of successful steal.thers on this forum could easily afford that if they wanted. This includes myself. But, see, I invest in my business where the more money I put in means the more money I will make. My house as well as others here is full of laptops, desktops, multiple tv screens/monitors, MiFi boxes, dongles, cell phones, etc. All of those make my business grow and cost 100 times the price of your "retarded" headphones.

Now, get back on topic with the rest of us.

AmazonStealth 09-13-2012 06:48 PM

I didnt say who can and cant afford them. I was stating that most people who complain about materialistic items is because the want them, dont have them, cant afford them, etc. And a majority of people, not all, who actually have them shouldn't for many obvious reasons.

Overpriced to you may not be overpriced to others, hence why they sell without issues.

slim jim 09-13-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 376374)

Overpriced to you may not be overpriced to others, hence why they sell without issues.

sorry but they sell just like other things because people have no value of a dollar. that is the ONLY reason there is a market for such a thing. it is like jordan sneakers, most people who buy them can not afford them

furlac 09-13-2012 10:05 PM

I have a number of sellers right now that are putting studio beats online and they are doing amazing! No neg. feedback on the phones to date. Not cheap price but more than worth it, sound is great. A note about the buyers though: the only nreg questions we get after purchase is why don't they work? THEY TAKE BATTERIES lol
oh and there is an on switch too.
They do reach a difficult crowd though, one that hates waiting for them to be delivered and happy to open claims within five days of purchase.

SUVE 09-14-2012 05:29 PM

AmazonStealth, your post number 23 did not make literal or logical sense in lieu of the flow of conversations previously - that post was off tangent somewhat, especially the 'retarded' remark.

:peace:

AmazonStealth 09-14-2012 07:35 PM

Maybe I didnt explain it very well, but every post below me, reiterated what I said.


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