any plumbers here ? - eBay Suspended & PayPal Limited Forums
eBay Suspension & PayPal Limited Forums  
Join Today
Register Subscribe
     

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!


Go Back   Home > General Discussions (Off-Topic) > Everything Else

Everything Else For off-topic conversation. The rules are relaxed in here, but play nice!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-14-2012
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,643
Thanks: 204
Thanked 252 Times in 209 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 80%
iTrader: (1)
Default any plumbers here ?

hi guys anyone with any plumbing knowledge ?

i have got a strange problem, ive recenly had an extention to my house built as a downstairs bathroom and dining room

added tw extra radiators (one for each room)

flow and return to each, but neither are getting warm/hot at all

all the rest are scorching hot

bled all the radiators but nothing

any advice would be appreciated
Reply With Quote
The complete step-by-step guide to get back to selling today!

  #2  
Old 10-14-2012
oompaloompa's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 9,586
Thanks: 502
Thanked 1,479 Times in 1,188 Posts
Activity: 2%
Longevity: 89%
iTrader: (7)
Default

I have that problem in just one bathroom.rest are fine,.

I did not do anything recently as this bathroom is hardly used,.

it is guest one but couple of times when plumber was around for something else I asked him.

he fiddled with a nozzle at bottom of the ladder style radiator and it was ok for a while and then went cold weeks, months later again .

- I would be interested to know the answer too....
__________________
https://youtu.be/bn4t0BuClbw
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-15-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 16
Thanks: 3
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 58%
iTrader: (0)
Default

Probably the TRV is stuck. Take the head off and make sure the pin moves up and down. If it is stuck, try some "gentle persuasion" with a hammer.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to FourNines For This Useful Post:
they_screwed_me_too (10-15-2012)
  #4  
Old 10-15-2012
slapped's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,346
Thanks: 391
Thanked 1,400 Times in 866 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 76%
iTrader: (4)
Default

This can be a LOT of things,,First off, did you run the Lines for your new extension directly from some type of distribution Manifold located by your boiler, of did you simply extend an existing line to run through your new additions?
__________________
The 3 Keys to Success are:,,,,Research, Research, and More Research,,,,,
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to slapped For This Useful Post:
they_screwed_me_too (10-15-2012)
  #5  
Old 10-15-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 16
Thanks: 3
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 58%
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slapped View Post
This can be a LOT of things,,First off, did you run the Lines for your new extension directly from some type of distribution Manifold located by your boiler, of did you simply extend an existing line to run through your new additions?
Slapped, I thought about this too but he mentioned he has flow AND return so I don't think it's a distribution problem. Just my thoughts.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to FourNines For This Useful Post:
slapped (10-15-2012), they_screwed_me_too (10-15-2012)
  #6  
Old 10-15-2012
slapped's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,346
Thanks: 391
Thanked 1,400 Times in 866 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 76%
iTrader: (4)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FourNines View Post
Slapped, I thought about this too but he mentioned he has flow AND return so I don't think it's a distribution problem. Just my thoughts.
I Know, But you can still simply "Tie In" the Return back at the boiler and "Extend" the supply.
Man, I have seen ALL SORTS of crazy Sh^t done by plumbers in my day, ever since I was a Kid .

I even remember watching the 3 Stooges when they tried their hand at Plumbing, and Curly wound up building himself inside some sort of Jail Cell Made out of Pipes,,,
__________________
The 3 Keys to Success are:,,,,Research, Research, and More Research,,,,,
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to slapped For This Useful Post:
they_screwed_me_too (10-15-2012)
  #7  
Old 10-15-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 16
Thanks: 3
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 58%
iTrader: (0)
Default

Three Stooges and The Little Rascals on a 19" black and white.... Those were the days.....
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to FourNines For This Useful Post:
slapped (10-15-2012)
  #8  
Old 10-15-2012
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 16
Thanks: 3
Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 58%
iTrader: (0)
Default

The other thought I had was that the boiler may not have enough btus for the additional radiators. Like you said, way too many things could be the cause...
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to FourNines For This Useful Post:
they_screwed_me_too (10-15-2012)
  #9  
Old 10-15-2012
slapped's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,346
Thanks: 391
Thanked 1,400 Times in 866 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 76%
iTrader: (4)
Default

well its either a problem with the waters circulation, or the Boiler is too Small now with the addition
__________________
The 3 Keys to Success are:,,,,Research, Research, and More Research,,,,,
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to slapped For This Useful Post:
they_screwed_me_too (10-15-2012)
  #10  
Old 10-15-2012
GreenBean's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,039
Thanks: 5,510
Thanked 9,030 Times in 7,038 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 95%
iTrader: (6)
Default

Dodgy English plumbing?

Likely to be both....

isolating valve jammed & boiler too small for increased load.

That question got asked after hours.

Going rate for plumbers is easily US$150 per hour..... invoice both free loaders

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-15-2012
rsot's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 61,341
Thanks: 4,781
Thanked 7,437 Times in 6,785 Posts
Activity: 100%
Longevity: 78%
iTrader: (7)
Default

Worse on the weekends
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-15-2012
Senior Member
Threadstarter  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,643
Thanks: 204
Thanked 252 Times in 209 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 80%
iTrader: (1)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by slapped View Post
This can be a LOT of things,,First off, did you run the Lines for your new extension directly from some type of distribution Manifold located by your boiler, of did you simply extend an existing line to run through your new additions?
i took a branch from an existing radiator (for the flow) and tapped into the return from the same radiator (which i believe is the correct way)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-15-2012
Senior Member
Threadstarter  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,643
Thanks: 204
Thanked 252 Times in 209 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 80%
iTrader: (1)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FourNines View Post
The other thought I had was that the boiler may not have enough btus for the additional radiators. Like you said, way too many things could be the cause...
during the building work 2 radiators were removed totally and replaced by the 2 ive just added so running approximately the same BTU
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-15-2012
Senior Member
Threadstarter  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,643
Thanks: 204
Thanked 252 Times in 209 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 80%
iTrader: (1)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean™ View Post
Dodgy English plumbing?

invoice both free loaders

how rude ha ha
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-15-2012
GreenBean's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,039
Thanks: 5,510
Thanked 9,030 Times in 7,038 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 95%
iTrader: (6)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by they_screwed_me_too View Post
how rude ha ha
We are eBay Stealth experts.

Plumbing aid is not given for free.

'Pecially dodgy Ingerlish plumbing.

Have you called the dudes back who did the instal?

I understand why you want it sorted. Weather not getting warmer
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-15-2012
Senior Member
Threadstarter  
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,643
Thanks: 204
Thanked 252 Times in 209 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 80%
iTrader: (1)
Default

@ oomps

right ok i last night drained the whole system again (hose from the drain valve onto the garden) and refilled one raidator at a time (by closing the outlet and only allowing water in and not out and bled each as i went along

bled them all a couple of times and had scorching hot rads all apart from the large ladder style radiator which was "warm" in places and colder in others (which indicates air to me)

bled them all again

turned off the heating

turned on this morning and ALL scorching hot

Problem solved FOR NOW

thanks all for your help the cheques are in the post
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-15-2012
slapped's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,346
Thanks: 391
Thanked 1,400 Times in 866 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 76%
iTrader: (4)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by they_screwed_me_too View Post
i took a branch from an existing radiator (for the flow) and tapped into the return from the same radiator (which i believe is the correct way)
Ok Then, Now, Assuming that you are getting proper water flow into your new Extension it simply means that your Boiler cannot supply enough hot water, you may want to try tapping in, and returning Directly from your boiler, but the odds favor you needing a larger boiler, to support the added load of your new addition
__________________
The 3 Keys to Success are:,,,,Research, Research, and More Research,,,,,
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-15-2012
MM78's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 14,138
Thanks: 1,107
Thanked 4,842 Times in 3,342 Posts
Activity: 16%
Longevity: 72%
iTrader: (4)
Default

I have a feeling something is going to blow up...
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 10-15-2012
slapped's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,346
Thanks: 391
Thanked 1,400 Times in 866 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 76%
iTrader: (4)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78 View Post
I have a feeling something is going to blow up...

Yea, Like that Boiler if it Keeps getting Pushed like that,,,,LoL
__________________
The 3 Keys to Success are:,,,,Research, Research, and More Research,,,,,

Last edited by slapped; 10-15-2012 at 10:44 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 10-16-2012
oompaloompa's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 9,586
Thanks: 502
Thanked 1,479 Times in 1,188 Posts
Activity: 2%
Longevity: 89%
iTrader: (7)
Default

all I know about plumbing, is whether the plumber looks nice in his jeans and whether I want to squeeze past him...
__________________
https://youtu.be/bn4t0BuClbw
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 10-16-2012
GreenBean's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 42,039
Thanks: 5,510
Thanked 9,030 Times in 7,038 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 95%
iTrader: (6)
Default

@oompappa

I would check that the delightful Mini-me has caused no riot in that bath-room.

She might have made a lab in there

Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 10-16-2012
oompaloompa's Avatar
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 9,586
Thanks: 502
Thanked 1,479 Times in 1,188 Posts
Activity: 2%
Longevity: 89%
iTrader: (7)
Default

no she has not caused it...it has been cold a while now...

she found, and spun the dial on the safe though - another thing to sort out, but lets not go in to my to-do list...too long
__________________
https://youtu.be/bn4t0BuClbw
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



Aspkin Group

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:53 AM.


Stop the guessing games and learn how you can quickly and easily get back on eBay today!
Read the best selling step-by-step eBay Suspension guide eBay Stealth!
Amazon Suspension? Read Amazon Ghost to get back on Amazon!
vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger
no new posts