How do they know when you are using the same image even when you delete exif data?

manoverde · #1 02-14-2016

Hello Guys
I really don't understand how can they detect the same image even when you put water mark and make small changes on a picture.
They still get linked. Do you have any info on this??

Thanks

GreenBean · #2 02-14-2016

If by chance you are talking about etsy, then the uniqueness of your own products could be enough to ID you.

Competitors will know you.

Mitsu · #3 02-14-2016

Reverse image search perhaps?

No idea who does this-- but if a marketplace wanted to they could index your images in a database, so if an account got suspended and they found the same listing picture on another account, that could create a link and be subject for review.

It takes a lot more to not get a hit by reverse image search than simply adding a watermark, you have to make some big changes... it might be best to just remake your listing pictures if you've been suspended and you're not using a generic stock image.

rsot · #4 02-14-2016

Why not use new photos OP?

GreenBean · #5 02-14-2016

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Originally Posted by rsot

Why not use new photos OP?

From other posts, his items are unique...

New definition in photos might be hard to achieve.

rsot · #6 02-14-2016

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Originally Posted by GreenBean

From other posts, his items are unique...

New definition in photos might be hard to achieve.

With all the q's, I didn't know his items are unique - if that's the case...well it's messed up for him unless he expands and gets creative.

manoverde · #7 02-14-2016

Hello Guys
Thank you so much for your reply.

1- why i don't create new images for this product?
Because i have to invest money making them again.

2- I know this is not correct but i copy other sellers images and they work good i can open the account with no problems.

3- I used old images from banned accounts and put water mark and a frame
the image look different but after 10 minutes the account got banned.

Im sure this is not because they report me because etsy support takes few days to make a change.

Im impressed on how they can detect me....... IS CLEAR THAT IS THE IMAGE Because i follow the same steps for the other 12 etsy accounts

My 12 are running good with other images.

HOW THEY DO THAT??? do you think is like a scanner that compare parts of the image??

GreenBean · #8 02-14-2016

Ah, you steal from other sellers

Sorry out of the thread,

phaz0rz · #9 02-14-2016

Considering just how unique your products are, and how relatively small etsy is at this point, maybe someone from etsy recognized your products and said "no way, I remember this guy."

If they were able to detect you after you added a "frame" and watermark to the picture, it sounds like your only option is new photos. Or maybe you could try changing the background color in photoshop if you're any good with that?

manoverde · #10 02-14-2016

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Originally Posted by GreenBean

Ah, you steal from other sellers

Sorry out of the thread,

Amazon, Website, Ebay Images
not etsy images my friend

muzzie · #11 02-14-2016

If you upload the same image, without ANY modifications to the same acc, they just compare CRC numbers of images and find that the image has been used previously.

phaz0rz · #12 02-14-2016

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Originally Posted by muzzie

If you upload the same image, without ANY modifications to the same acc, they just compare CRC numbers of images and find that the image has been used previously.

But the CRC data would be modified if he added stuff to the photo since that would change the size of the photo, no?

manoverde · #13 02-14-2016

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Originally Posted by muzzie

If you upload the same image, without ANY modifications to the same acc, they just compare CRC numbers of images and find that the image has been used previously.

sorry for my ignorance
What is CRC?

muzzie · #14 02-14-2016

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

But the CRC data would be modified if he added stuff to the photo since that would change the size of the photo, no?

If he edits photo in any way. of course CRC will change. But I understood that he asked how do they link 2 accs with the same photo, if it is not modified, but EXIF removed.

phaz0rz · #15 02-14-2016

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Originally Posted by muzzie

If he edits photo in any way. of course CRC will change. But I understood that he asked how do they link 2 accs with the same photo, if it is not modified, but EXIF removed.

Well, I understand where you're coming from. The question he asked in the title was slightly different than the question he asked in the body of the thread.

manoverde · #16 02-14-2016

Is there any way they can insert a code to does images and track them again??
is there any way they can scan the shapes of the images they have on database.

i know i have to use new images but i want to know the WHY????

I don't want to pass without knowing the why.

and sorry my english is not good i do my best

phaz0rz · #17 02-14-2016

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Originally Posted by manoverde

Is there any way they can insert a code to does images and track them again??

Nobody knows for sure how they track images, but I know that's not possible. For them to "insert code" into an image, you would have to re-download your own image from etsy's site after you upload it.

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Originally Posted by manoverde

is there any way they can scan the shapes of the images they have on database.

This is the more likely scenario. There have been huge advancements in photo-recognition software over the past few years, and I have no doubt eBay/AZ/etsy utilize such software. This is most likely how you are getting linked.

Gamble · #18 02-16-2016

Sorry to bump the thread, but does anyone know if et.sy will recongize this.....

Reversed the photo in photoshop
Put on a completely generic background
Changed the size
Saved in photoshop as a web file with all data removed
Saved under a new file and new user in windows

Am I good, or did I leave something out? Helpful input only please. Thanks so much!