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aspkin 03-27-2016 04:25 PM

'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
'Burner' phones could be made illegal under US law that would require personal details of anyone buying a new handset | News | Lifestyle | The Independent

Personal note: while if implemented it would do nothing to stop people from obtaining other means of cheap anonymous communication, it would be the beginning of even more regulations against our privacy.

There goes more of our 'freedom'

spindoctor 03-27-2016 04:35 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
They'll always be a black market ;)

empirestate 03-27-2016 05:07 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Freedom is an illusion.

JamesNorth101 03-27-2016 05:18 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 757761)
Freedom is an illusion.

Very philosophical :)

SilentHill 03-27-2016 05:38 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Oh thank you big brother

yotano211 03-27-2016 05:40 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
People can always just get a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID. I know some places that sell them on the internet, one of them is overseas.

SilentHill 03-27-2016 05:46 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Why must one live this way for a little privacy??

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotano211 (Post 757767)
People can always just get a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID. I know some places that sell them on the internet, one of them is overseas.


yotano211 03-27-2016 05:49 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentHill (Post 757771)
Why must one live this way for a little privacy??

Because the government always has too put fear until laws or bills that they write.

I cant vote so I dont have a say in the matter.

I have my disposal gift card ready when ever I need to order a phake ID.

MM78 03-27-2016 06:14 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
That's what the Darknet is for......

GreenBean 03-27-2016 06:48 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Oh ye of little faith....

Options always exist.

MM78 and I can supply tin foil hats anytime any place.


Hope Stealth4 does not read this as they have concerns already.

:spy:

muzzie 03-27-2016 07:02 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
buy a box of old phones via ebay?

GreenBean 03-27-2016 07:41 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by empirestate (Post 757761)
Freedom is an illusion.

LIFE is the illusion.

:shhh:

vogeltron 03-29-2016 04:46 AM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
They are saying my home State of California is the test puppy on this. I guess US lawmakers never watched The Wire but obviously saw the Belgium attack. "Never let a crisis go to waste" remember that now Chicago Mayor, Obama lover saying that.

This really is no different the EU trying to ban the 500 Euro note and Larry Summers who told Bill Clinton to repeal Glass Steagall and sign the Commodities Futures Authorization Act say we need to ban the $100 bill. The war on Cash has started by the biggest criminals of them all!!

Now they are moving on our freedom to have a mobile phone!

glacier922 03-29-2016 05:05 AM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Lets hope the nra could give us a helping hand, let's keep this thread up to date, this is getting so ridiculous.

vogeltron 03-29-2016 05:08 AM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 758200)
Lets hope the nra could give us a helping hand, let's keep this thread up to date, this is getting so ridiculous.

Lol, Our home America is the Land of the Free and home of the Brave right?

glacier922 03-29-2016 05:08 AM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
How about this one:

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free
-Johan Von Goethe

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 757762)
Very philosophical :)


glacier922 03-29-2016 05:09 AM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 758201)
Lol, Our home America is the Land of the Free and home of the Brave right?

More like land of the fee and home of the slave, ha

vogeltron 03-29-2016 05:17 AM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 758203)
More like land of the fee and home of the slave, ha

Lol, I am a few years away from being 30 but man people love this slavery. They are signing up for the Bern left and right. It is freaking unreal!

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...in/Bernie2.jpg

glacier922 03-29-2016 05:21 AM

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You know, I hate to say it, but Bernie might have a chance, especially with the Clinton emails, if the environment gets too toxic, he will be the dems nominee.

vogeltron 03-29-2016 05:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 758207)
You know, I hate to say it, but Bernie might have a chance, especially with the Clinton emails, if the environment gets too toxic, he will be the dems nominee.

Yea, I registered Republican in 08 to vote for Ron Paul. I am going to go for Trump just to throw the Oligarchs off. I am mostly Libertarian and somewhat An archaist but also a Andrew Jackson statist so somewhere in all there. Complete freedom but also love your damn country for protecting you, etc. Kinda hoping in a Hilary vs Trump that Gary Johnson gets enough sentiment to get in the debates. Just my hope.

There is also part of me that is so disgusted I just want to see the entire thing burn down because it is so oppressive. Especially if the Bern was in there with his commie buddies. Because the USSR worked so well!

jojo2012 03-29-2016 07:40 AM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Walmart only let's you buy 2., Best Buy only lets you buy 2, Best buy mobile told me an indibidual can only buy 2 in a lifetime! At&t, and Verizon won't let you buy one without activating in store before you leave, Id. requirement is probably coming. ...

vogeltron 03-29-2016 12:49 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jojo2012 (Post 758243)
Walmart only let's you buy 2., Best Buy only lets you buy 2, Best buy mobile told me an indibidual can only buy 2 in a lifetime! At&t, and Verizon won't let you buy one without activating in store before you leave, Id. requirement is probably coming. ...

House Lawmaker Wants to Make it Illegal to Buy a Burner Phone Without ID


House Lawmaker Wants to Make it Illegal to Buy a Burner Phone Without ID

blueuk 03-29-2016 01:50 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Might be a silly question... but can you not buy reloadable sim cards in the USA?

jojo2012 03-31-2016 02:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blueuk (Post 758447)
Might be a silly question... but can you not buy reloadable sim cards in the USA?


Yes but I happen to know that as far as Walmart and Best buy are concerned a re loadable sim card is the same thing as buying a prepaid phone. They wont sell more than 2 to a customer. so Unfortunately the law proposed would likely also include prepaid sims.

newjerseymax 03-31-2016 02:39 PM

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We need smaller Government.... This is the result of liberals running the country! Taking away our freedoms one by one... And most people don't care as long as the food stamps, Obama phones and free money keeps coming in.....

exxomscp 03-31-2016 03:07 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
What it comes down to is control. There's always an agenda..

jeffweico 03-31-2016 03:10 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
I would imagine that the cell phone industry is going to fight this tooth and nail. Yes, burner phones CAN be used by drug dealers and terrorists, but there are also many legitimate uses for them.

If it happens, it does not mean that your personal information is up for grabs and available to eBay or PayPal. It just means that in order to get a phone or SIM, you might have to provide your personal information.

Also, Jackie Speier is a Democrat, so you can bet that the Republicans will try to block this legislation. I think the best thing we can do is start a petition to whitehouse.gov to get President Obama to come out IN FAVOR of it. That will kill the legislation in 30 seconds or less!
:pound:

You have to love our government. They love to make legislation to tie the hands of the average person. But when it comes to big business and the wealthy, sure let them keep their money offshore and not pay taxes, then pollute the environment in the name of freedom. What about freedom for the average person?

If you were to look at all of the bills introduced in Congress, I would bet that a majority of them are designed to stop groups of people from doing one thing or another. I no longer smoke, but some cities now want to ban smoking in private homes. I can understand banning smoking in public, but in a private residence?

It is almost like the politicians cannot solve any of the SERIOUS issues that we face, so they go after easy targets to have something to show as an accomplishment. I HATE THAT! Do something about the income inequality gap. It is now easier for a lower class person to move into the middle class in like 28 other countries than it is here in the US. So much for this being the land of opportunity!

Enough is enough. I'm tired of the government wanting to know exactly what I do every minute of every day. I'm surprised they have not banned cash yet, since they cannot trace it. After all, if a person has cash, it can be used to buy drugs or illegal guns or just about anything.

We have a government now that believes what the average citizen does must be an open book for regulators to peruse through, so they can catch anyone breaking any law, no matter how minor. But what the GOVERNMENT and BIG CORPORATIONS do, well, that should be a secret with nobody entitled to know anything.

And I would point out that this is not a liberal/conservative issue. Remember, we got the Patriot Act under George Bush and that KILLED a lot of our freedoms with one piece of legislation.

I love the fact that we cannot regulate guns, because if we do then only the bad guys will have guns. But if we regulate cell phones, then terrorists and drug dealers couldn't possibly get them, right? Wouldn't the same principle apply?

A friend from England once told me that in Europe, the governments are afraid of the people. The problem in the US is that the people are afraid of the government. I think he is right and I don't think that anything can change that. Less than half of US citizens vote, and when they do, they blindly vote based on party. Nobody looks at individual candidates anymore, except maybe for President. If you look at where these people stand on specific issues, you will find it is much more complicated than liberals vs conservatives.

vogeltron 03-31-2016 04:45 PM

Re: 'Burner' Phones Could be harder to get in the US
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newjerseymax (Post 759103)
We need smaller Government.... This is the result of liberals running the country! Taking away our freedoms one by one... And most people don't care as long as the food stamps, Obama phones and free money keeps coming in.....

It amazes me in California they wan't you to have to have an ID to vote in an election because they say it is discrimination against poor people and minorities. But now they want you to have an ID to get a prepaid phone, that in most cases targets lower income people as their customers. Seems kinda backwards to me.


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