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allster101 03-18-2015 03:06 PM

SSL on Forums
 
"Hello caller, you're on the air!"

Hello everyone, long time listener, first time caller.

I'll cut right to the chase: why isn't there an SSL certificate on the forums? I mean, we're logging in on every single page, and any attacker can intercept our traffic, which includes logins. So, without SSL, any attacker can see our login info.

Also, implementing an SSL cert on vBulletin isn't that hard, a la this link.

So, why not?

Thanks.

MM78 03-18-2015 05:14 PM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Why would we need them? perhaps that would be your best argument in actually implementing them.....

allster101 03-18-2015 07:07 PM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 651673)
Why would we need them? perhaps that would be your best argument in actually implementing them.....

Why? Because it's security for the website. Right now, any hacker with the right skills can see your login information and anything you type onto this website. With an SSL certificate installed, all data is encrypted so nobody can see your username, password, or anything else you type in.

There are very cheap SSL certificates available (less than $10/year). There's even a free one. Not very much configuration is required to get it working.

It gives everyone on the forum much greater security. At this point, there's no excuse not to.

aspkin 03-19-2015 01:16 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
The website doesn't interact with 3rd party services that would make SSL necessary. Login details do not pass on to other websites. I could only see a use on the local level but even that would be overkill.

Sure it's easy to add but making sure SSL wouldn't be broken or break anything, would be a headache.

It's not really needed at this time but possibly in the future as I have thought about it for other reasons.

unkown5454 03-19-2015 02:59 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Uber cheap certs == false sense of security

GreenBean 03-19-2015 05:40 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Welcome to the forums.

Good Luck as you learn more of stealth ways.

rsot 03-19-2015 11:18 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Welcome to the forums - all the best with stealth

allster101 03-19-2015 11:30 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 651805)
The website doesn't interact with 3rd party services that would make SSL necessary. Login details do not pass on to other websites. I could only see a use on the local level but even that would be overkill.

Sure it's easy to add but making sure SSL wouldn't be broken or break anything, would be a headache.

It's not really needed at this time but possibly in the future as I have thought about it for other reasons.

Users can login at any page on this site. Usernames and passwords are transmitted in plain text from the user's computer to the server, and can be intercepted anywhere along that path. Especially you, aspkin - what if an attacker got your login info? Imagine what kind of havoc could be wreaked upon this forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 651820)
Uber cheap certs == false sense of security

All certs (unless you buy some old cert with old technology like TLS 1.0 or 128-bit encryption) use the same encryption technology. The only thing that differs is the name and warranty.

MM78 03-19-2015 12:40 PM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Lets be honest, any website can be hacked at any given time.....All that's required is perseverance and time.

allster101 03-19-2015 03:48 PM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 651960)
Lets be honest, any website can be hacked at any given time.....All that's required is perseverance and time.

Right. But having an SSL certificate on a website will decrease that chance dramatically.

GreenBean 03-19-2015 05:17 PM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by allster101 (Post 652014)
Right. But having an SSL certificate on a website will decrease that chance dramatically.

Why are you second guessing what aspkin has told YOU about the forum HE runs?

Think you should appreciate that aspkin will have the best interests of the forum in hand at all times.

:typing:

unkown5454 03-19-2015 07:39 PM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Since you are obsessed with security, do tell me what information you would gain from siphoning information here? Information that is basically all public. Anyone can sign up here and do whatever they want.

This is not some financial or medical institution where all users have private information that needs to be encrypted.

MM78 03-19-2015 08:24 PM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 652087)
Since you are obsessed with security, do tell me what information you would gain from siphoning information here? Information that is basically all public. Anyone can sign up here and do whatever they want.

This is not some financial or medical institution where all users have private information that needs to be encrypted.

Someone could steal our post count!!!!! rsot would be devastated!

rsot 03-19-2015 10:25 PM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 652114)
Someone could steal our post count!!!!! rsot would be devastated!

Hamsters would go homeless omgzor! Time to move back into MM78's dungeon :eek:

GreenBean 03-20-2015 12:17 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! !!!!!

We aint goin' to no stinky dungeon again.

:mad:

GreenBean 03-20-2015 12:19 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
:FF: :pout: Not a horrible dungeon. PLEASE. We'll pedal so darn hard to stay away from there. PLEASE. :pout: :FF:

muzzie 03-20-2015 01:54 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
SSL is not for hiding posts, as anyone can register and read them. SSL is for protecting login details, as currently anyone can sniff traffic / make a phake website, and steal some sensitive login details.

unkown5454 03-20-2015 03:06 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Nothing here is sensitive. This has been the point the whole time muzzie.

No one conducts transactions or any person information through this site. Getting access to someone's forum account is completely useless.

MM78 03-20-2015 08:29 AM

Re: SSL on Forums
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 652200)
SSL is not for hiding posts, as anyone can register and read them. SSL is for protecting login details, as currently anyone can sniff traffic / make a phake website, and steal some sensitive login details.

I think we all know that, what I said was meant as a joke.......apparently not everyone got the joke :doh:.


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