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Rambo3 12-29-2013 04:02 PM

Stocks
 
Anybody here into Binary Options?

rsot 12-30-2013 06:17 AM

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That's the e-mail source of some stock info right? I was checking something about it...or are you talking about ETFs?

Rambo3 02-05-2014 04:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 515064)
That's the e-mail source of some stock info right? I was checking something about it...or are you talking about ETFs?

Yeah its pretty much in or out. But dealing with the market and currencies.

rsot 02-06-2014 11:03 AM

Oh - Forex - that's rough - friend of mine does it...he has having mixed success

Be wary of all the marketed product programs

GreenBean 02-07-2014 02:14 AM

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If you know the market, it is OK

vogeltron 02-28-2014 05:08 AM

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Tempted to throw down a small speculative investment on some of these "POT" stocks. I am not a fan of Marijuana. However, out here in my part of CA. It is ridiculous how many hydroponics stores here. Seems like every other block. Have me intrigued. I never hear drug dealers crying broke.

rsot 02-28-2014 05:37 AM

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You dont hear drug dealers who cry...period. Those that do are often sent off to Con College :)

GreenBean 02-28-2014 06:03 AM

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Or they are stoned so no need to cry.

More interested in the changes in CO.

Introduction there of medical MJ has financial potential.

:yar:

vogeltron 03-01-2014 04:52 AM

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Even though I voted against Legalizing Marjuana here in CA in like 2008 or something like that and the stated stuck it down. There are so many Hydroponic stores here in Northern CA. It is literally a joke. Few hours up the road you in Mendocino/Humbolt County. Apparently some of the best Marijuana in out there. At this point I am looking around. If this is the business to be in I am looking into investing in it.

The debate about Marijuana gateway drug etc is still out there. I will punt on that. But if you are in it for the money I do believe this could be an industry trying to find a footing and the early investors if they invest right could come out ahead.

Fleabay999 03-01-2014 05:35 AM

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Growing is over populated, many do it.
Even if legal it will come with very high risks
The dangers involved with Gangs and Firms is ridiculous! Green is gold and ready for the taking. Big money in growing £1000 a plant easy in just 8 weeks.

jeffweico 03-01-2014 08:44 AM

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Regarding binary options, BE VERY CAREFUL! If you understand the market, you MIGHT be able to profit, but it is also a very good way to lose money QUICKLY. That is true of any system that involves trying to time the market. I have had GREAT SUCCESS with stocks, but not as short term investments.

I remember one of my best ones was purchasing the company that makes Aunt Jemima products. Their stock was WAY DOWN because of some internal issues that were affecting profits and the p/e on the stock was like 8 or so. I figured they would work it out and also that their brand names were not going to go away - who hasn't had Aunt Jemima pancakes, or pancake syrup, or waffles, or biscuits, or whatever? I doubled my money in just under a year. I have a few examples like that. But trying to figure out where a stock is going to be an hour from how will drive you INSANE and cost you money - unless you really, REALLY, REALLY know what you are doing. And most people don't.

As to profiting from Marijuana...

Why not? Half the people in American prisons are there for drug crimes, and the vast majority of them are minor and related to marijuana. That is HUGELY expensive and cannot be sustained. So, I don't see the federal government (or politicians) pushing a "get tough on pot" policy. Marijuana is not nearly as harmful as alcohol and the hysteria surrounding it is giving way to actual science. So, I think the legalization trend will continue. Most doctors will tell you that there ARE legitimate medical uses for it and a couple of states have even legalized it for recreational use. You can still get into a lot of trouble for growing it in states where it is illegal, so I am not recommending that. But as an investment, it has some nice long term potential. The trick will be to pick the companies that will still be around in ten years. Even where there is no fraud and the best of intentions, investments will go sour - especially at this early stage. But it is worth looking into.

vogeltron 03-03-2014 06:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fleabay999 (Post 533362)
Growing is over populated, many do it.
Even if legal it will come with very high risks
The dangers involved with Gangs and Firms is ridiculous! Green is gold and ready for the taking. Big money in growing £1000 a plant easy in just 8 weeks.

The point is. The main stock I am investing in is not in the sale of actual Marijuana. They sell the supplies to grow your own. Not saying this is the Gold Rush. But people who would have invested in a Company like Levis who made a fortune selling clothes to miners rather than the more risky business of mining Gold.

John D. Rockefeller also began the same way. He saw Oil Exploration as risky and volatile. Saw refining as a more stable business.

Not trying to convince anyone to invest in anything. But as much as I am anti Marjuana on a personal level. In the states I see the laws getting more and more relaxed for a good portion of the Country.

rsot 03-04-2014 05:59 AM

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Mining, Energy, Transportation - fun sectors but always the downturn risk...stocks can blow up or go down heavily...still worth the action though

vogeltron 03-05-2014 05:32 AM

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Highly cyclical I agree. Lol, RSOT Canada is actually my favorite country to invest in. Mining stocks like Gold Corp, Barrick Gold, Fertilizer like PotAsh. I even own Telus Telcom. Lol. Just too bad that the Canadian government changed the laws on the old Royalty "Oil" Trusts. Those where some big dividends back in the day.

alim 03-06-2014 12:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 534512)
Highly cyclical I agree. Lol, RSOT Canada is actually my favorite country to invest in. Mining stocks like Gold Corp, Barrick Gold, Fertilizer like PotAsh. I even own Telus Telcom. Lol. Just too bad that the Canadian government changed the laws on the old Royalty "Oil" Trusts. Those where some big dividends back in the day.


potash corp was once very lucrative to buy
now because of the russian cartel issue the stock has crashed quiet a bit

barrick gold has rebounded a bit,lets see if its persists.
not an investment pitch but i think canadian gas stocks are undervalued.will rise in coming months,encana and all

rsot 03-06-2014 01:35 AM

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Potash will rise again. Canadian Small Cap stocks do have great potential.

vogeltron 03-06-2014 04:06 AM

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All the fertilizer stocks have been beat up. That is part of the reason I finally got into Potash. Had been sitting on the sideline on this one for quite some time. I am with ROST on this one. These type of stocks seem to be one of those if you are willing to buy and have a decent sense of when to get in and get out. Personally I prefer to buy stuff when it has been beaten up a little bit. Potash has a ok dividend as well so at least you get something for holding onto it.

Some of these tech companies trading at 100x times earning and have never paid out a penny to shareholders are what I stay away from. Might be old school but I like the non sexy assets. Oil, Gas, Mining, Heavy Machinery. Not really into tech or consumer staples.

alim 03-06-2014 11:22 AM

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yes,it will rise hopefully when the outlook for fertiliser improves,but potash corp has the largest exposure to potash based fertilisers instead of urea or DAP.
so its exposure to the breakup of the potash cartel was even larger
and then its largest customers china and india took advantage and he company that cut out of the cartel,they made cheaper supply deals.the price they negotiated was like 35% lesser .lets see how it goes

do you watch for bombardier and aerospace stocks they might go well

rsot 03-06-2014 01:42 PM

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Bombardie and Aerospace stocks do trend upwards...slowly...but if there is a big contract, BAM! time to make money

vogeltron 03-12-2014 04:40 AM

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PHOT has is now up 50% since I purchased it. Now sure if it is a pump and dump or what is going on. Going to ride it out probably for quite a few years. I am more interested in the companies like I said before that supply the equipment to grow than dispensaries etc.

Obviously this is speculative. But I missed out on Bitcoin when I knew about it really early on. I do not plan on missing out this. Even if I morally disagree with it. Not saying PHOT is a sure deal. But legal marijuana industry is quite interesting. Do your due diligence and make sure you can handle the risk.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 533981)
The point is. The main stock I am investing in is not in the sale of actual Marijuana. They sell the supplies to grow your own. Not saying this is the Gold Rush. But people who would have invested in a Company like Levis who made a fortune selling clothes to miners rather than the more risky business of mining Gold.

John D. Rockefeller also began the same way. He saw Oil Exploration as risky and volatile. Saw refining as a more stable business.

Not trying to convince anyone to invest in anything. But as much as I am anti Marjuana on a personal level. In the states I see the laws getting more and more relaxed for a good portion of the Country.


GreenBean 03-12-2014 05:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 534730)
. Not really into tech or consumer staples.

Money to be made there.

I am still enjoying holding shares in a medical tech company.

Always a good return for me.

rsot 03-13-2014 04:00 AM

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Revisiting the pharmaceutical industry - few movers this week too

GreenBean 03-13-2014 06:27 AM

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Yikes, always movers there.

Need to check all the time.

:juggle:

rsot 03-13-2014 09:55 AM

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GSK is up to something - pipeline news

vogeltron 03-17-2014 04:01 PM

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WTF PHOT is up 111% in like a week. Thinking this might be a pump and dump.

Salvo 03-17-2014 11:46 PM

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Marijuana in the US is going to be a humongous industry once it gets rolling ::no pun intended ::

Its a win-win for all essentially. States create money out of thin air from taxes on an industry already going on. Jobs are created for growers, suppliers, sellers, wholesalers, franchises, etc. Less people go to prison for worthless drug charges, and the police can focus on drugs that actually hurt and kill people.

I'll be putting $ into PHOT also.

vogeltron 03-18-2014 03:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Salvo (Post 537618)
Marijuana in the US is going to be a humongous industry once it gets rolling ::no pun intended ::

Its a win-win for all essentially. States create money out of thin air from taxes on an industry already going on. Jobs are created for growers, suppliers, sellers, wholesalers, franchises, etc. Less people go to prison for worthless drug charges, and the police can focus on drugs that actually hurt and kill people.

I'll be putting $ into PHOT also.

Which "Marjuana" stocks are you interested in. I missed out on Bitcoin when I new about this early on.

These grow shops remind me so much of the 90's when I was a kid. There was independent computer shops all over the place. Then suddenly things changed it became more and more centralized. I see a similar thing with this.

I live in a part of CA. Where these "Hydroponics" shops are all over. It is laughable. Everyone knows what people are doing but kinda turns a blind eye to it.

rsot 03-18-2014 10:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 537526)
WTF PHOT is up 111% in like a week. Thinking this might be a pump and dump.

It's just a craze right now with the company and it's grow operations - as other competitors get settled in, price will level out...might as well capitalize as you can

Salvo 03-18-2014 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 537663)
Which "Marjuana" stocks are you interested in. I missed out on Bitcoin when I new about this early on.

These grow shops remind me so much of the 90's when I was a kid. There was independent computer shops all over the place. Then suddenly things changed it became more and more centralized. I see a similar thing with this.

I live in a part of CA. Where these "Hydroponics" shops are all over. It is laughable. Everyone knows what people are doing but kinda turns a blind eye to it.

I still have to do some research into the companies, but I'm personally interested in ones that plan on becoming a chain/allowing franchises. Also, the suppliers of the nutrients and hydro supplies. IMO it's a matter of time before recreational use spreads across the states, considering how lax it has become in even the past decade.

Another big sector to think about is 3D printing too. CES this year had to turn away a record number of vendors in this category, just not enough room!

rsot 03-18-2014 08:52 PM

Re: Stocks
 
Hydro supplies...true point

joew8989 03-18-2014 09:44 PM

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Most of the early money our here in Colorado is being made by the legal dispensaries, which are the only outlets allowed to sell on a retail level. Its all mom and pops. I think the best way to paly it is big tobacco MO. (on a stock level)
The price doubled because the demand increased but not the supply. We've got people coming out here expecting to find roadside stands (not thecase). Still plenty of supply on the black (free) market at about 1/3 the price. Lots of growers but no one is allowed to sell.

vogeltron 03-22-2014 05:07 AM

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Mining stocks get beat up like this again and again and I will keep buying. JPM and company try to manipulate the price much lower by naked short selling and everyone will be out of business. Not to mention the FED already told Germany it would take them 10 years to return the Gold the had deposited at NYC Fed Reserve. Makes you wonder if they sold it all into the market to ease prices?

Puerto Rico Bonds are looking like they are on the cusp of defaulting.

rsot 03-22-2014 09:37 AM

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Isnt Washington State going along the trend of legalizing the weed trade too? Or I could be wrong about the state

vogeltron 03-22-2014 06:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 538736)
Isnt Washington State going along the trend of legalizing the weed trade too? Or I could be wrong about the state

They passed a ballot initiative back in 2012. Not sure when it goes into effect like Colorado's has.

vogeltron 03-25-2014 04:17 AM

Re: Stocks
 
Exited my position in grow life. The run up looked like a pump and dump. Decent net gain overall.

Thinking there are some Junior Mining stocks that have absolutely been clobbered the past few years. The are screaming buyout from some of the larger mining corporations. Put a few GTC trades in on these today.

The way most stocks have just gone up and up and up the last 3-4 years makes me think QE infinity is causing another bubble. Mining stocks are the only class that has continually gotten hammered.

It is my personality, but I like to buy stuff dirt cheap where I see value when everyone else is running from it.

Rambo3 03-25-2014 06:39 PM

Re: Stocks
 
Haven't been as active here as when I first started this thread
"Stocks" in which i must say is misleading because what i meant was
"Binary Options"

I focused a lot of my time there learning strategies and the terms ect.
The reason for me not being around here as much and in SFB..

To sum it all up...
I haven't made any big cash yet.

BUT
There is a BIG BUT

It's not because there isn't potential but because there is one IMPORTANT
thing i want everyone who is considering to give it a try to remember.

**YOU NEED TO START WITH A GOOD INITIAL CAPITOL**
If you want to make cash in Binary Options you need good cap.

You can open accounts now-days for as low as $20.00
Honestly... you can do it it to learn... but if you're looking to make some
good cash.. You need start with i would say minimum $500

IMO thats even too low.

vogeltron 03-25-2014 08:35 PM

Re: Stocks
 
Stocks, Options, Forex. In a way it is like going into a Casino and picking which game you want to play.

Rambo3 03-25-2014 09:07 PM

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I used to agree with people who said that
until i began researching and got into that world...


There is way too much data to analyze and too many
strategies and such for someone to say it is anything like gambling.


If anything it's more like poker. You have to be able to read other traders minds to know where the markets are headed.
Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 539764)
Stocks, Options, Forex. In a way it is like going into a Casino and picking which game you want to play.


vogeltron 03-26-2014 02:27 AM

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I am mostly a sports betting man myself. You watch all the games and strategize all you want. But when it comes down to it. Like looking at an income statement. You are just looking at past results. It can give you an idea of what to expect in the future but nothing is guaranteed.

I agree there are many ways to use statistical analysis to project stock movement. However, there are always exogenous factors that models can't account for.

Either way in my mind it still gambling. But in one form or another I think every decision we make every day is in a sense a gamble.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambo3 (Post 539771)
I used to agree with people who said that
until i began researching and got into that world...


There is way too much data to analyze and too many
strategies and such for someone to say it is anything like gambling.


If anything it's more like poker. You have to be able to read other traders minds to know where the markets are headed.


rsot 03-27-2014 02:02 PM

Re: Stocks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 539764)
Stocks, Options, Forex. In a way it is like going into a Casino and picking which game you want to play.

In a way yes but...quite the different than just gambling hah


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