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ebayvictim 02-23-2008 04:06 PM

Researching a Niche
 
Can someone recommend the best way to research a niche to see if it's viable? I've got 5-8 in mind. I would love some advice before I invest in a domain name and website! Since I'm a beginner I thought I would start with a bans site and go from there?

aspkin 02-23-2008 11:19 PM

BANS makes money. I hear of people making 500-600 their first month with it.

I haven't tried it yet, but I want to soon.

As for niches I go for what pays well and what I know something about; like web hosting. Web hosting companies are paying 50-100 per signup. I love anything to do with websites and making money online. I have my own server, had many many websites, and dealt with all there is when it comes to web hosting. Just find something you enjoy talking about and go for it.

topazcorp 02-24-2008 01:15 AM

Is it really hard to get running? I'm really interest in the concept but I can't afford to pay big adwords campaing and that kind of thing... Let say I would put 200-300 to start would I be ok?

BTW thanx Aspkin! I've read some infos on your blog and they really help me out in the affiliate market, I'm now making a few hundreds/month on Clickbank:cool:

aspkin 02-24-2008 03:37 AM

Nice topazcorp,

The good thing about getting started is, you usually only have to do it once to get money rolling in for years to come.

For example: I created a landing page comparing similar products about 6 months ago. A very nice, 4 page site with the meat of the content on the index page. I setup targeted adwords campaigns and ever since I've made 50-200 a day off it - on auto pilot.

It just takes a few days of hard work setting up your site, find competing products, getting your reviews nailed down and setting up your adwords campaign to have years of income off your work.

After you have a successful campaign start work on another one. And another and another until you're making $1000 a day.

That's the fastest way to make money with affiliate marketing.

You can make a lot of money fast or you can lose a lot of money fast if you're not careful.

A slower, cheaper way is SEO. Creating large content sites targeted to one niche. The more pages of content you create the more traffic you'll receive and more commission you'll make.

I plan on creating a web hosting site soon, in which I write reviews and blog about web hosting companies. I'll also have paid reviews, and pay people to write content for me to make it grow faster. The more content it has the more money it'll make.

With 200-300 you can start a small adwords campaign with a $10 daily limit. I would direct link at first to test a product. You can cloak a link to fool adwords for a direct link. And just target a few keywords in phrase matching. If your campaign is targeted to the people with their wallets out ready to buy, then you'll convert.

There are lots of little tricks you can do to lower your PPC cost, and increase conversions. Let me know and I can help you out.

mantisinc 02-24-2008 05:26 AM

When you say direct link Apskin, do you mean just use the hoplink as your adwords URL?

twdell 02-24-2008 08:07 AM

please don't tell me i'm asking a stupid question, but this is all new to me, and basically i don't even know what you are talking about. is there a site that i could go to that would teach me all about this affiliate stuff? like a "starting your own affiliate site for dummies" type of thing? i am pretty sure i could teach myslef how to do it. any info would be great. thank you.

scouse12345 02-24-2008 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twdell (Post 27254)
please don't tell me i'm asking a stupid question, but this is all new to me, and basically i don't even know what you are talking about. is there a site that i could go to that would teach me all about this affiliate stuff? like a "starting your own affiliate site for dummies" type of thing? i am pretty sure i could teach myslef how to do it. any info would be great. thank you.

Google search on Bans.. Buy a Niche Site...

ebayvictim 02-24-2008 11:54 AM

Thanks Aspkin. The comparison/review idea turned on a lightbulb for me! LOL I've been working on a large content site for several weeks now. I've got about 50 pages so far but don't like the look of the site. I'm php illiterate! I've tried several php open source CMS but they're not for beginners or very user friendly. I'm trying to work with Drupal right now but it's a slow process for me. I think I'll shelve that website for a while and try to get something else up and running!

mantisinc 02-24-2008 12:10 PM

Ebayvictim, try websitebaker! It's an absolute DREAM CMS, and I'd reccomend it to anyone. If you don't like it, I'l pay you $400.





Actually no, I won't. But I'l be very suprised if you don't like it :p

ebayvictim 02-24-2008 12:40 PM

Man, I got so excited when I saw your post....then I scrolled down and read the rest! LOL I'll check it out! Tell me, does it requires a zillion modules, etc....? That's where I'm getting stuck!

topazcorp 02-24-2008 01:19 PM

By the way I've found this website: CSS Templates (Page 1 of 23 ) - Free CSS Templates

They are offering free website templates and a few of them looks great! Might help folks here who aren't webdesigner and people who don't want to spend massive ammounts of time creating templates for their site!

ebayvictim 02-24-2008 05:43 PM

Any suggestions on web hosting??? I've only used Yahoo in the past but think maybe I'm paying too much?

topazcorp 02-24-2008 09:08 PM

I'm using godaddy, cost me something like 4$/month!

aspkin 02-24-2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mantisinc (Post 27241)
When you say direct link Apskin, do you mean just use the hoplink as your adwords URL?


If there is no competition you can do that, but usually another person is doing that already. I mean using a cloak link. PM if you want to know more cloaking links, I have some software you can use if you want to try it out.

aspkin 02-24-2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twdell (Post 27254)
please don't tell me i'm asking a stupid question, but this is all new to me, and basically i don't even know what you are talking about. is there a site that i could go to that would teach me all about this affiliate stuff? like a "starting your own affiliate site for dummies" type of thing? i am pretty sure i could teach myslef how to do it. any info would be great. thank you.


Basically you're selling someone else's product for them. If you make a sale you get a commission. That's it.

There are affiliate networks that have venders offering affiliates commission if you sale their products. Some big ones are CJ.com, Clickbank.com, Agoogleads.com, neverblueads.com.

You can sale Blockbuster Online movie subscriptions, eBay products, eBooks, advertise for web hosting companies, Amazon or who ever.

I just started affiliate marketing about a year ago. I started with Clickbank promoting some eBooks that go well with a few of my websites. I simply added some banner ads, and people bought. I'm making $17-$25 per sale.

You see the banner ad up top for Build your own Niche store? I get paid $44 every time someone buys the software; even though you guys don't seem to dig it, its still there waiting to make me commission. :)

By the way, you guys are hard to convert. :)

aspkin 02-24-2008 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayvictim (Post 27293)
Thanks Aspkin. The comparison/review idea turned on a lightbulb for me! LOL I've been working on a large content site for several weeks now. I've got about 50 pages so far but don't like the look of the site. I'm php illiterate! I've tried several php open source CMS but they're not for beginners or very user friendly. I'm trying to work with Drupal right now but it's a slow process for me. I think I'll shelve that website for a while and try to get something else up and running!


I know what you mean. I think I'm going to tear apart wordpress to make me a nice CMS that works well with my web hosting affiliate site. It takes work! But it can really pay off.

ebayvictim 02-24-2008 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 27376)
You see the banner ad up top for Build your own Niche store? I get paid $44 every time someone buys the software; even though you guys don't seem to dig it, its still there waiting to make me commission. :)

By the way, you guys are hard to convert. :)

NO, I don't see banner!!! On top of the forum page???? I have never seen a banner there!

aspkin 02-24-2008 09:36 PM

Lol, you don't like the banner?

koalawash 02-24-2008 10:19 PM

It's the one that says "build your own eBay business - without selling a thing"

ebayvictim 02-24-2008 10:28 PM

Ok, I know I'm not crazy

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...pot/aspkin.jpg

Where is the banner????

koalawash 02-24-2008 10:35 PM

mine is at the bottom..

aspkin 02-24-2008 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayvictim (Post 27397)
Ok, I know I'm not crazy

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n...pot/aspkin.jpg

Where is the banner????

Okay, not at the top but after the First Post in a Thread. :)

ebayvictim 02-24-2008 10:38 PM

Duh....now I see it! LOL Never looked past the last post! :o It's at the bottom! LOL

twdell 02-24-2008 10:40 PM

so you get $44 for the BANS sign ups. isn't the price for BANS about $100. they give you that much in commision? do you think BANS is a good place to start for a beginner like myself?

ebayvictim 02-24-2008 10:41 PM

Aspkin....I am going to sign up tonight or tomorrow. I will definately use your link!!! Now that I can find it! ROFL

twdell 02-24-2008 10:44 PM

i would use your link as well. just would like some input on if the BANS is worth it. thanks.

aspkin 02-24-2008 10:49 PM

After reading a lot of success stories from other people who have used it, it's worth it. If you need help setting it up or anything with it, let me know and I can help. And thanks ebayvictim for using my link/banner.

ebayvictim 02-24-2008 10:59 PM

If I research a site and the top 10 on google aren't selling anything and google keyword tool shows medium competition ..... is that a positive sign??? Where else should I research before committing to a domain name?

aspkin 02-24-2008 11:30 PM

I try and keep a domain I care about short and to the point. Also having a good keyword in your domain name will make it easier to rank in google for that keyword.

For example, a site of mine l2adenalineage.com

I wanted to have good rankings for Lineage 2 and l2 Adena.

It's not the best domain name, but it gets the job done at around 1k visitors a day.

topazcorp 02-24-2008 11:53 PM


aspkin 02-25-2008 12:43 AM

^^^

Oh! I forgot about that one. :)

twdell 02-25-2008 10:12 AM

hey aspkin, i saw you mentioned a service called 3waylinks in another post. will this also work for a BANS site? if so would it be good idea to use with it?

ebayvictim 02-25-2008 07:49 PM

OK....I went to godaddy.....transferred my 3 existing websites....got 3 more domain names and paid for 6 months hosting for $100. Wow, what a bargain....I've been paying $12 a month per account on yahoo.

FYI...... Use promo code walk1 for new purchases less than $20 or walk2 for more than $20. I got $20 off!!!

I purchased bans and will play with it tomorrow! Aspkin....you owe me a beer! :D

scouse12345 02-25-2008 08:23 PM

Aspkin, i think the main reason people having trouble seeing the link at the bottom of a thread, is that if the thread has more than 1 page, you have the page numbers set to high above the link.. i think that makes sense.. if you see what i mean, i never have to scroll to the bottom of the page, as the page numbers are further up.. ffs.. the more i type, the more it don't make sense to ME lol..

aspkin 02-25-2008 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twdell (Post 27497)
hey aspkin, i saw you mentioned a service called 3waylinks in another post. will this also work for a BANS site? if so would it be good idea to use with it?

Yeah I think it would work great for Bans. They send you tons of links with the anchor text of your choice. I use it for a lot of my sites. The only problem is it's pricy.

aspkin 02-25-2008 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayvictim (Post 27631)
OK....I went to godaddy.....transferred my 3 existing websites....got 3 more domain names and paid for 6 months hosting for $100. Wow, what a bargain....I've been paying $12 a month per account on yahoo.

FYI...... Use promo code walk1 for new purchases less than $20 or walk2 for more than $20. I got $20 off!!!

I purchased bans and will play with it tomorrow! Aspkin....you owe me a beer! :D


Oh you did? Did you use my link? I didn't receive credit for it if you did. :(

ebayvictim 02-25-2008 09:38 PM

I did use your link....it had your name in it!!!! Just a few hours ago!

aspkin 02-25-2008 09:43 PM

Hmm, that's crap. Clickbank has been having problems tracking.. and here is another reason not to use Clickbank... sigh..

twdell 02-25-2008 09:52 PM

i don't think $47 a month for the 3waylinks is too bad as long it makes money for me.

aspkin 02-25-2008 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayvictim (Post 27659)
I did use your link....it had your name in it!!!! Just a few hours ago!

Did you happen to delete you cookies anytime after you clicked on the banner and then purchased? That probably did it.


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