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freedomplz 02-13-2012 09:49 AM

Yes, verifying a sellers identity can be a tough one as everyone on this forum knows. Some sites ask you to sign up through facebook. The incorrect assumption is that each person has just 1 facebook account. This method provides a low level verification of a persons identity.:typing::noidea:

imjustme 02-14-2012 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by freedomplz (Post 311876)
Yes, verifying a sellers identity can be a tough one as everyone on this forum knows. Some sites ask you to sign up through facebook. The incorrect assumption is that each person has just 1 facebook account. This method provides a low level verification of a persons identity.:typing::noidea:

We're definitely not going with Facebook logins. In my opinion, every company should take care of their users' data themselves. Depending on Facebook may create more problems in the long run, especially once people start moving to something else, as it happened with MySpace before.

We're leaning towards SMS verification at the moment, as it's about the same as credit card verification. Credit card numbers don't mean anything with VCCs being available, and phone numbers are about equal. It's easier for people to give out their mobile number than their credit card number, though.

Cashew 02-15-2012 03:17 AM

I have had a few problems with buying an item and then when i go to pay, it says that this seller won't ship to P.O boxes.

I always look for that issue whenever i buy or bid on any items in their description and shipping details. It happens when i win an item in auction mostly.

If Eba y would implement something to tell buyers whenever they go to buy or whenever they bid that this seller won't ship to P.O. boxes. Even tho that particular seller don't mention it in their description.

Or even better,dont let buyers with P.O. boxes even make a bid or purchase.

It is a real pain in the ass when you have to contact the seller and try and fix the issue after already winning the bid or committing to buy and then can't pay through pay pal.:doh:

I have yet had one seller figure out how i can pay through paypal when they have the restriction set for no P.O. boxes.

I did find the ADD this buyer to NO RESTRICTIONS list but that didn't seem to work either.

Finally, i had them give me their email and i sent the payment directly to their account. Then they have to manually mark as payment received in ebay. At least that worked.

But when you run into that seller that just refuses to sell to you because of a mail box number, its just a real pain.

good luck

baloch 02-15-2012 02:11 PM

The problem is that most people just start selling without understanding how things work or how they should solve problems.

I think you should have online seminars for new sellers and buyers that they must attend. It could be automated video or interactive flash presentation. It could show how to resolve issues with payment or shipping or disputes and what is right and what is wrong.

teedon 02-22-2012 04:52 AM

Very interesting.Look forward chinese version coming out asap.

newjerseymax 02-22-2012 07:23 AM

It would be cool to pay for number of listings in advance no matter the value of product.

50 listings (up front and final value) = $100
100 Listings (up front and final value) = $175
something like that.

Also would be great if we could pick how many days to list. like 1-60 and we enter the number. It bugs me that I cant list 2, 4, 6, etc days... So simple but ebay does not have it.

Deal buyer 03-04-2012 08:12 AM

any updates on when this ebay killer is going to be released. i suggest you open the marketplace up to the facebook community, abit like an app, but more intergrated. you would get loads of traffic from there

imjustme 03-04-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deal buyer (Post 317568)
any updates on when this ebay killer is going to be released. i suggest you open the marketplace up to the facebook community, abit like an app, but more intergrated. you would get loads of traffic from there

There's no ETA, as we're still working on implementing some of the features that were suggested here. In the coming few months for sure, but no exact date.

The Facebook integration is a tricky point. A lot of large retailers (JC Penney and others) that have recently opened their Facebook stores have closed them down again because it simply didn't work for them. People just don't have shopping in mind when they visit Facebook, so the actual conversion rate may be quite low.

Another problem point with Facebook signup is that the website (us in that case) would not see much more than the person's first and last name, which can be a big security hole for buyers and sellers. We wouldn't know the address, phone number, nothing. It's why sites like eBay and others likely don't use Facebook signups.

Still, we'll integrate it to some extent with Facebook, but also not Facebook-dependent.

Deal buyer 03-04-2012 02:45 PM

Hmm, yeh. I hues that's where your website would come in won't it.people these days are usually always logged in on Facebook, I gues it would require marketing won't it,
Remember the marketing technique Facebook used, th econstant email you used to get from Facebook from people on your friends list who joined up. I guess that proved to be exemely successful didn't it.
It all comes down to marketing I guess. And to fill the security whole, you would just get them to add their extra details and make your own database when they sign up on your app.
People don't o onto Facebook to shop, I nderstand that, but can you remember when people didn't go online for Facebook? Or eBay!

BubbleTea 04-26-2012 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleCove (Post 284514)
That's not the way an eBay union would work.
When farmers join a union, to get a better price for their milk, it didn't matter what "perks" the dairy offered them, or non union members....they simply kept dumping their milk down the drain until they got their demands met.

If only 20 or 30 percent of eBay sellers joined a union, they could break eBay's back. When the union members band together, to boycott eBay until demands are met, it doesn't matter what kind of perks eBay offered....the decrease from that 30% would be devistating for eBay. I sell all the items I have on eBay. When they offer fee listing days, or decreased rates, it's not as though I go find additional items to list.

"For every seller that boycotted eBay, another seller listed 10x more items." ... That simply isn't true.

Monopoly's like eBay, are best kept in check with competition. But, when competition doesn't work (as we've seen from the scores that have tried against eBay), a union is the way to go.

Imagine if 30% of eBay's sellers joined a union, and each of them paid dues of $25 a year. Do you realize the amount of bad press the union could threaten to buy with that kind of money, if their demands didn't get met? In addition to the lost revenue from auction witholding.

I don't mean to put you down here, but as a matter of fact, if you think that forming a union is the solution, then why don't you implement it??

I have no doubt that if you form a union against eBay, there will be loads of people joining.
Just google eBay suspension etc. and you will find loads of forums and blogs with loads of users crying over their stories of how they got suspended by eb.

I think there is a chance this would work. There is a chance anything would work and in my opinion, I think anything done against eb is better than nothing done at all.

So I support the new online marketplace by imjustme and I support you too if you form a union.

But if you just sit here and tell someone who is doing something that he is wasting his time, and then talk about how great a union would be but do nothing to make a union, then you are not only not being not part of the solution, but part of the problem.

So please, form your union if you would, and convert that negative energy into something positive instead. :boink:

TurtleCove 04-30-2012 01:31 AM

Point very well taken.
Thanks for the input.

rsot 04-30-2012 11:30 AM

eB sellers forming a union...ever been part of a union?

BubbleTea 04-30-2012 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 336468)
eB sellers forming a union...ever been part of a union?

Umm.... Not really...
There's always a first time.
I like trying out new things. :p
:bounce:

rsot 05-01-2012 10:09 AM

eB sellers forming a union would be a nightmate and QUITE destroy the stealth process.

TurtleCove 05-02-2012 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 336802)
eB sellers forming a union would be a nightmate and QUITE destroy the stealth process.

You're assuming it would be run like all the other unions you've seen.

You're giving the OP of this thread a chance at coming up with something unique, so maybe you should give the thought of a union for EB sellers a chance at doing something unique.

Tell you what...if a union was structured correctly, it sure would be a lot easier to use a union to get EB to listen, then rolling a whole new auction selling site. A union wouldn't be half the nightmare compared to what the OP is proposing.

However, you do bring up a good point, regarding stealth. Afterall, a union would require people to withhold selling at certain points, and that would require accountability (some would try and sell anyway), and that indeed thwarts the stealth process.

markstall96 05-29-2012 07:01 PM

When is this site going to be available to the public? I am very very interested and can not wait to see it. I the ideas that I have heard sound fantastic!

imjustme 05-31-2012 01:32 PM

I can't put an ETA on it, but I can say we're working on it 18 hours a day, every day, no joke :)

oompaloompa 05-31-2012 02:38 PM

on your site we all get immunity IHM !!

if ebay was easier on sellers, then everyone would sell on it, at least now the hassle puts some people off, and leaves us more pickings....

oompaloompa 05-31-2012 02:39 PM

on your site we all get immunity IHM !!

if ebay was easier on sellers, then everyone would sell on it, at least now the hassle puts some people off, and leaves us more pickings....

simonsuds 06-06-2012 01:50 PM

I've spent several hours this week researching ebay alternatives and here's the big thing that stands out to me: The sites themselves are hard to look at. Either they look cheap (plunderhere) or they look like they're trying to display everything for sale just on the homepage (ubid...even ebid). If you can copy Ebay's style without actually copying their design, I think it would do wonders. They've mastered a professional look that is detailed, and yet somehow minimalist. These days "minimalism" is huge in web design.

yellow0102 06-23-2012 08:38 PM

i would like an update on this :D

How are things coming along? When do you plan to launch?

markstall96 06-25-2012 09:24 PM

I'm with you yellow0102

imjustme 06-26-2012 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simonsuds (Post 347836)
I've spent several hours this week researching ebay alternatives and here's the big thing that stands out to me: The sites themselves are hard to look at. Either they look cheap (plunderhere) or they look like they're trying to display everything for sale just on the homepage (ubid...even ebid). If you can copy Ebay's style without actually copying their design, I think it would do wonders. They've mastered a professional look that is detailed, and yet somehow minimalist. These days "minimalism" is huge in web design.

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellow0102 (Post 353191)
i would like an update on this :D

How are things coming along? When do you plan to launch?

That's what we're working on now, the design. The software part is done but it looks awful (barebone) without a nice design. We won't copy eBay, but we'll make it different while still easy to use. Something along the lines of eBay meets Etsy meets something entirely new :)

markstall96 06-27-2012 11:18 AM

What is the estimated date that it will launch?

imjustme 07-03-2012 01:15 PM

I can't give an exact date as otherwise I'd be under time pressure and we want to make sure it's something good, not something rushed. Definitely less than 6 months, could be much less. It's getting closer every day :)


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