| | | GrannyT | 10-23-2011 12:30 PM | Slapped - you have a wonderful knowledge and control of the English language (for a yank!!):clap::D |
Quote:
Originally Posted by XHIBIT
(Post 276888)
Yes I concur with all of the suggestions as well.
Prior to my very first eBay (VERO) suspension last year I did create my own website selling NFL jerseys.
(Out of respect to Aspkin I wont list the link here), but yes its the PEOPLE that create the problems first, and the security and integrity of the site itself running a close 2nd.
Buyers have found my site without me spending a penny on Google ads, or me having to spam. Even though I'm not pushing the product and product name as much as I should last year was a good year...this year not so good. LOL
But...I'm really absorbing all the various feedbacks givin thus far and hopefully use the points as an advantage if I undertake this project.
Keep 'em comin guys. | Hi, can you pm me details about your nfl site. I have setup an auction site selling football (soccer) shirts. Who knows our 2 products could work hand in hand. I am in the UK and i always have people asking me for NFL jerseys. So putting some of your shirts on the site will maybe bring you a few more sales from the users on the site.
The site is only small as its not been up long. Its got most of the payment options already intergrated into the site.
Thanks
Brad. |
| slapped | 10-23-2011 01:39 PM | @Redshootingstar,,,,You continue to Attack and Demean others,,,What Makes you think that you KNOW Either of them Deals in Counterfeits?
I Doubt you are infering that their site will get seized by the FBI for "Unauthorized Color Usage"
I PERSONALLY have have attended NUMEROUS Chapter 11 Liquidations of Small Sporting Goods Stores that go Chapter 11 where you can get Jerseys for PENNIES on the Dollar NOT Sometimes but EVERYTIME,,
What do you thing a Company like New Era does with Caps, Jerseys, or whatever of a Popular Player in a Particular teams Jersey that they have in Stock that gets traded to another Team?,,,They Liquidate them at again,,,Pennies on the Dollar,,Such Liquidations happen EVERY DAY,,,
Again you are CLEARLY Demonstrating YOUR Intellectual Shortcommings, Illustrating that is it You who Belong in that .001% that you believe the 99.999% of th Majority of the Members here belong to,,,
You KNOW the Old Saying:,,,,"If the Shoe Fits-------WEAR IT!!!" |
| RedShootingStar | 10-23-2011 02:03 PM | Jesus lol.... |
| First Edition | 10-23-2011 08:39 PM | I smell GreenBean.... |
| RedShootingStar | 10-23-2011 10:56 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slapped
(Post 280837)
The Average customer Buys something--Recieves it ---Leaves Positive feedback--- NO ONE who reads your comments on this thread has ANYTHING Positive to say about your comments,,,,
You got a Lot of Balls trying to Proclaim yourself as some type of Expert or Guru,,,,Your Avatar,,Is that a RAT,,VERY appropriate,,,
Here is the TRUTH,,,There are MANY on this forum who FORGOT more about Successful Business Practices than You will EVER Know.
You point out that Education is key in Being Successful, actually you make it seem as if it is the ONLY thing.
Another KEY to being Successful is how you carry yourself (attitude) how well you work with others,,Here you FAIL Miserably,,this is CLEAR from your Postings on this thread.
The "Career" you so Joyously Describe is to me the Life of a Drone,,you will ALWAYS have someone to awnser to. And Please do not allow your Intellectual short commings to defend this position. It is My Opinion and I am Entitled to My Opinion, Living in USA gives me that Right.
As Imjustme Pointed out above there would be NO Entrepreneurs to create New Companies and even INDUSTRIES,,,,,,you know Places and People that YOU would work FOR.
You have EVERY Right to Disagree with the OP,,,Hell I Do,,and I will get to that in a Moment,,,But to Argue that the Cerebral capabilities of 99.9% of this forums Members are inept, or as you infer intellectually unequipped to even Discuss such a Venture, is simply Arrogant Presumption. Then to further your point of View in following Posts CLEARLY Demonstrates your Continued Predelection to Demonstrate the Irrevelencies of your arugment within the confines of this Discussion it also provides Clear insight of your paltry intelligence quotient.
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As for the REAL Discussion here, One of the BIG Expenses in operating a Site such as Ebay is the Legal Expenses. Ebay is CONSTANTLY under attacks from Companies that do NOT want their Merchandise on an Auction site,,to Companies protecting their Intellectual Property, Counterfeits, to Buyers suing for for ALL sorts of stuff and Even seller taking court action for things like Unfair practices, Promoting Buyer Fraud, and Much More, this is the Main Reason Yahoo stopped their Auction site and Google NEVER Launched one. | haha wow..... |
| XHIBIT | 10-24-2011 12:08 AM | Slap....this was one of my primary concerns. The legal aspect of it. Quote:
As for the REAL Discussion here, One of the BIG Expenses in operating a Site such as Ebay is the Legal Expenses. Ebay is CONSTANTLY under attacks from Companies that do NOT want their Merchandise on an Auction site,,to Companies protecting their Intellectual Property, Counterfeits, to Buyers suing for for ALL sorts of stuff and Even seller taking court action for things like Unfair practices, Promoting Buyer Fraud, and Much More, this is the Main Reason Yahoo stopped their Auction site and Google NEVER Launched one.
| I've even considered, making the site STEALTH...LOL
Initially with it being a small underground alternative site, i think its safe to assume we would be off the radar for awhile.
But...as soon as some VERO products found a home there with a consistent sales record, I'm sure then the letters would start trickling in from Law Firms.
But I spoke with a lawyer (a friend of my wife's husband) who advised me, that if the letters did start flooding my mailbox the best course of action to take (being a small business)...is to RUN and NOT WALK to the magistrate's office and get a Cease and Desist court order for Interference of Business.
If a legal firm wanted to fight the order it could take several years to even make it to a docet and most VERO law representation seldom follow up especially if its out of state.
But...its always safer to begin choking the offending items off slowly.
I'm still checking on some other things regarding that. |
| freedomplz | 10-24-2011 12:57 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by XHIBIT
(Post 276228)
I was banging my head against my PC desk today trying to figure out the lunacy of eBay, IOffer, and all the other sites that continue to make it harder for us to make money.
Seriously folks...its like jumping thru flaming hoops, and sliding barefoot down razor blades just to make a buck.
And then it hit me ....
Its enough of us here to launch our OWN sellers market !
Think about it for a minute....
These are just a few advantages we would have.
1) We could control who we allow to sell.
2) We could control what we allow to be sold.
3) VIP Members could pay 1 fee...Yearly, Bi yearly, or Monthly.
4) We could have our own dedicated server.
5) We could have mixed auctions (timer and bid), buy it now and (best offer) auctions.
6) We could also have classified ad auctions.
etc etc...
The possibilities are endless.
And as far as promoting the site, a simple link from your existing stealth eBay, Amazon, IOffer, and any other virtual sellers marketplace would bring you your own customers WHILE HELPING ADVERTISE THE NEW SITE !
It would take a bit of work at first of course...such as a catchy domain name...an eBay clone site script (which I can find and install very easily) and a few modifications tp give us a unique look and feel.
But the bottom line is, if they can do it...who says we cant do it and be even better at it ?
I'm really serious about this...lets hear your take on the idea folks. | When the hosting site makes more money than the seller, it is time to move on. Talk about buyer protection on ebay - Buyers can give negative feedback on a whim while sellers are forced to give positive feedback. Seems to me that means democracy is dead on ebay. Got my first paypal "hold today" - all of $.67. If this is a sign of things to come, I am dead meat. I'm all for a new seller's site. |
| freedomplz | 10-24-2011 01:21 AM | Just registered a cheap dot com name $.99 Didn't know you could still get a .com domain name for $.99. I just did at Domain Names & Web Hosting : 1&1 Internet Inc. That will be $9.01 saved for registering a new auction site. I'm also willing to help with the legwork/setup for this site. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by freedomplz
(Post 281011)
Didn't know you could still get a .com domain name for $.99. I just did at Domain Names & Web Hosting : 1&1 Internet Inc. That will be $9.01 saved for registering a new auction site. I'm also willing to help with the legwork/setup for this site. | My internet security software warned me about this website when I tried to go to it. That's the URL without the anonym.to prefix. |
| XHIBIT | 10-24-2011 09:58 AM | Quote:
Didn't know you could still get a .com domain name for $.99. I just did at Domain Names & Web Hosting : 1&1 Internet Inc. That will be $9.01 saved for registering a new auction site. I'm also willing to help with the legwork/setup for this site.
| Whats the catch though ?
Do you have to have that particular company actually host the domain ?
And also, how much is it to renew the domain each year thereafter ?
These are 2 tricks hosting companies often use, some inflate their prices with offers of super low domain registrations.
Oh and if so....is it on a shared server ?
Not that it really matters because all it takes is to point the domain's DNS to the server you're actually on. |
| XHIBIT | 10-24-2011 10:02 AM | I just went to that link and my security alert popped up also...9.00 for a domain name wont kill me I guess...LOL |
| XHIBIT | 10-24-2011 11:37 AM | OK, I'm goofing around with catchy domain names for the market site and need some ideas, so let 'em rip guys.
Here's a few I came up with:
1) ShopNGo.com
2) StopNShop.com
and my personal favorite...(which is already taken by the way ARRRRRGHHH)
WiseBuys.com
(I even had envisioned the logo...a shadowy mafioso guy in an alley with a tommy gun in his hand, wearing a an opened trench coat with dollar sign tags inside the coat).
Oh well...I'm pretty sure you guys can come up with something better, I'm all eyes and ears. |
| First Edition | 10-24-2011 01:39 PM | Typically with a domain name, you want keywords that will draw traffic into your site, two words at the most, and something catchy, short, and easy to remember.
ebay.com, for example... two syllables, easy to remember, 10million people a day shop on the .com website alone. They don't rely on google searches as much as a normal company might.
The hosting is easy. You set up a domain name, I recommend namecheap.com. Don't pay a lot of money for it. Namecheap gives free whoisguard access for the first year. It will cost you 10 dollars per year to register it. After that, you decide who will host it. This doesn't matter either.... i'd go with hostgator, or namecheap as well. You don't need that much bandwidth unless you're getting 50k visitors a month. 10 dollars a month will give you a lot with hostgator.
But then, the tricky part comes...... DESIGN.
It's easy to set up a buy it now style site. You'll need a logo, full design comp, etc, etc, etc.... It's more complicated when bids, accounts, and everything else ebay has for example. It sounds like you need a programmer. Or at least someone who is an expert.
You're also not the first person that tried to compete with ebay, or amazon. Look at ioffer, or swoopoo. The amount of effort something like this will take.... I think you will learn why ebay and amazon do what they do. It's not because they just get off on it, they're a business. |
| slapped | 10-24-2011 01:55 PM | I Volunteer to VET all the Sellers and ENFORCE The sites Rules,,,,,,,,,,NO,,,,,as GreEnbean puts it,,,, Foo Foo!!! |
| First Edition | 10-24-2011 04:43 PM | VET?
Doesn't ebay try and get rid of all the foofoo? but.... it doesn't work that well |
| XHIBIT | 10-24-2011 05:42 PM | Ha haaaaaaaaaa...looks like we got us a security guard. But ya only get 1 bullet though (and you gotta keep that in your shirt pocket). LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
And yes you're absolutely correct about choosing a catchy domain name. 2-3 syllables at best. I've got an even cheaper host with a semi dedicated server (due to them screwin up one of my forums a few years ago). But there is 99.9% uptime and I have tons of space and unlimited bandwidth.
I'll be on for the next 3 days looking and comparing clone scripts as well as custom paid scripts and contacting developers for additional coding ideas.
Example...
Live Auction timers
Deals of the Day
Buy it now special timers
Classifieds
And eBay and Amazon feedback integration
It would be nice to have a PhpBB forum installed that matches the selling site, and as far as graphics go, my one of my best friends' owns and illustrates Conspiracy Cards - Welcome and did some of the original Star Wars concept art pieces. |
| imjustme | 10-24-2011 06:56 PM | Some suggestions. Unlimited bandwidth doesn't exist, especially not if it's "cheap". Any host that offers that will either cap you at some point or charge you for hidden overages. A dedicated 10Mbps line can't push more than 3TB of traffic per month. And even with the cheapest providers, a dedicated 10Mbps line will cost you several hundred per month. Cheap also means more outages.
I personally would recommend going with a provider like RackSpace, where you have the option to expand into your own co-location or server farm. |
| XHIBIT | 10-24-2011 07:42 PM | Ok well I'm just sayin, I have 2 other websites online as well, its very very rare that any of the sites lag or experiences downtime since they moved me off the more crowded shared servers after losing some of my forum files while installing a new PhpBB.4 three years ago.
In order to make things up to me they put me on a semi dedicated server and I still pay a monthly hosting bill equivalent to that of the shared server with no extra charges.
As far as bandwidth...last year I broke open a story about Joseph Mosche and within 2 days had 39,000 hits and it handled the incoming stream of traffic with no problems or lagging so I'm pretty confident with the current host.
Plus if I need something installed they normally do it for free.
Also as mentioned I'm not under the false illusion that we will rival eBay and have a sellers war, complete with machine guns, grenades and drive by shootings. But I am fairly certain I can get out of it only what I put into it for a good while. For now its a small enterprise and if and when it grows and needs more space and/or a dedicated server the owner of the hosting company has offered me a reduced price.
But in any event you're right I have talked to RackSpace back when I co-hosted an f.m radio talk show. The station wanted to find different ways I could co host from home and I managed to find a MUCH MUCH cheaper alternative using a Shoutcast server and having the feed relayed to a sister station yo me in real time, whereas I bounced it back.
But this is a bunch of major decisions that I will spend the entirety of this week researching. Thanks to all the input from everyone I dont feel so handicapped now and am able to mentally prepare for this undertaking. |
| freedomplz | 10-25-2011 12:31 AM | I like the idea of the mafioso guy Quote:
Originally Posted by XHIBIT
(Post 281112)
OK, I'm goofing around with catchy domain names for the market site and need some ideas, so let 'em rip guys.
Here's a few I came up with:
1) ShopNGo.com
2) StopNShop.com
and my personal favorite...(which is already taken by the way ARRRRRGHHH)
WiseBuys.com
(I even had envisioned the logo...a shadowy mafioso guy in an alley with a tommy gun in his hand, wearing a an opened trench coat with dollar sign tags inside the coat).
Oh well...I'm pretty sure you guys can come up with something better, I'm all eyes and ears. | Just wrap him in red, white and blue. Seriously now, a catchy name is very important and it would be be nice if it signifies fairness. The biggest problem with ebay/paypal is that they make decisions without looking at the facts. Any spiteful person/company can make a claim and ebay drops the hatchet without even so much as a mediocre investigation. :rant: |
| freedomplz | 10-25-2011 12:50 AM | Love the humor Quote:
Originally Posted by XHIBIT
(Post 281206)
Ha haaaaaaaaaa...looks like we got us a security guard. But ya only get 1 bullet though (and you gotta keep that in your shirt pocket). LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL
And yes you're absolutely correct about choosing a catchy domain name. 2-3 syllables at best. I've got an even cheaper host with a semi dedicated server (due to them screwin up one of my forums a few years ago). But there is 99.9% uptime and I have tons of space and unlimited bandwidth.
I'll be on for the next 3 days looking and comparing clone scripts as well as custom paid scripts and contacting developers for additional coding ideas.
Example...
Live Auction timers
Deals of the Day
Buy it now special timers
Classifieds
And eBay and Amazon feedback integration
It would be nice to have a PhpBB forum installed that matches the selling site, and as far as graphics go, my one of my best friends' owns and illustrates Conspiracy Cards - Welcome and did some of the original Star Wars concept art pieces. | We could probably launch this for next to free by using facebook. I am not a fan of facebook but their fan pages can be used for anything, including setting up a store. Then we could get tons of likes = traffic that we can eventually integrate with our final official auction site. I am sure someone here on this forum know exactly how it is done. :juggle: |
| freedomplz | 10-25-2011 12:59 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by GrannyT
(Post 280273)
Wow - who are the other 1%? | I guess if a lot of us who don't know what we are doing could get our heads together and make this work. We have to start somewhere. What's that story about Goliath? This is a swim or sink deal. I got my flippers on. I know a good idea when I see one. This idea is superb. :clap: |
| freedomplz | 10-25-2011 01:18 AM | I thought we have already started. Quote:
Originally Posted by GrannyT
(Post 276892)
When do we start?
:clap: | I guess I am just getting carried away because I am afraid that my next shoestring drop ship sale will end with my funds being held by paypal. Then I'll be history.
That said, I hope this new auction site will either start of by saying "all sales are escrow" instead of popping it on you just when you've made the first big sale ever - forcing you to wait 21 days to collect. If that is not illegal then neither is kidnapping for a ransom.
Drop shipping gives small fry a chance to earn an income instead of looking for a handout. The new auction site needs to take that into consideration and setup safe guards to ensure that drop shipment are completed without eliminating the possibility of small fry making an honest living.:rant: |
| freedomplz | 10-25-2011 01:36 AM | http://apsense.cc/098376 points to 1&1 Internet Inc. Quote:
Originally Posted by mine
(Post 281039)
My internet security software warned me about this website when I tried to go to it. That's the URL without the anonym.to prefix. | I just love how the big guys keep the little guys at bay. Domain Names & Web Hosting : 1&1 Internet Inc. is a short URL which tracks how many persons took me up on my suggestion to get a legit .com domain for a buck.
No catch - all the facts are stated clearly on the site. You can do anything you want with the domain name.
Check alexa.com for 1and1.com
I would be nuts to recommend a site on this forum that is dangerous. I do not want to risk being kicked out of such a vibrant forum. especially since I seriously want to kick butt where ebay and paypal is concerned.
BTW If you sign up through my URL I get a whooping ?% commission :D which gets held up by cj.com if I don't earn enough.
I here to help build something new. I am here to help slay the Goliaths:doh: |
| freedomplz | 10-25-2011 01:44 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by XHIBIT
(Post 281094)
Whats the catch though ?
Do you have to have that particular company actually host the domain ?
And also, how much is it to renew the domain each year thereafter ?
These are 2 tricks hosting companies often use, some inflate their prices with offers of super low domain registrations.
Oh and if so....is it on a shared server ?
Not that it really matters because all it takes is to point the domain's DNS to the server you're actually on. | They are legit and are considered a top notch hosting company. This is for you guys if you want to save a buck. Their rate goes up the second year and thereafter to standard rates. That link bears absolutely no importance when compared to what's at hand. Don't let the big bad wolves fool you this time. GoDaddy.com is not the only game in town. I have an affiliate link to them too. Let's all just go kick ...=} 1and1.com - Information from Alexa Internet |
| freedomplz | 10-25-2011 01:46 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by mine
(Post 281039)
My internet security software warned me about this website when I tried to go to it. That's the URL without the anonym.to prefix. | Just go if you want it. I posted details in other posts. |
| freedomplz | 10-25-2011 01:56 AM | Foot soldiers or Henchmen for eBay Suspension & Paypal Limited Forums Quote:
Originally Posted by XHIBIT
(Post 281096)
I just went to that link and my security alert popped up also...9.00 for a domain name wont kill me I guess...LOL | If I intentionally cause someone or their computer harm then I am lower than ebay and paypal and I should not be on this forum. :suspicious: then google/your security software wins. 'Nuff said.
imjustme count me one of your foot soldiers. :amen: |
| gamezoom | 10-25-2011 05:35 AM | Im good at idea aspects of sites and names and willing to fork cash into as well, Im talking like thousand of dollars. Can i I get in? |
| XHIBIT | 10-25-2011 12:23 PM | Freedom...you're Golden, all of your input is appreciated and welcomed bro. Every little bit helps trust me.
Last night I was up till 5 a.m comparing different different auction scripts and later today will post the better ones that came to mind for a vote.
Gamezoom, the more the merrier...after all this is for us by us.
And any help with a domain creation would be HELL'UVA appreciated. I've rattled names around in my head like a BB in a balloon until I was on the verge of poppin a vessel. HA HAAAAAAAAAAA |
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RSS Feed Integration Good enough? |
| GreenBean | 10-25-2011 06:54 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by First Edition
(Post 281192)
VET?
| VET work I do works well:amen: |
| XHIBIT | 10-25-2011 07:58 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by OfficialGenius
(Post 281477)
Hmmm... A few years ago I bought 3 websites from StoresOnline that I've never used. Paid $5,500 at their seminar. StoresonlinePro Builder – Create Your Site with Ease -Step-by-step Tutorials
Learn at your own pace with easy to follow lessons that will teach you how to make the most out of your website. The tutorials are complete with pictures that will match what you see on your computer screen so that you know for sure that you are making the right changes and learning at the same time. And if you need a helping hand as you are going through the tutorials, feel free to contact our friendly Customer Support center by phone, email, fax, or real time chat. -Real time preview capabilities
We’ve made it possible for you to see the changes you’ve made to your site before they “go live” on your site. -Dynamic Logo Creation
The StoresOnline Pro builder will create a basic logo for you to begin. This dynamically built header is generated for you using text and image(s) you provide. -1 GB of website space
The StoresOnline Pro website builder gives you a generous amount of website space to create the type of site you want. -Unlimited bandwidth transfer
Many website companies will only allow a certain amount of bandwidth for your website and then charge you for additional bandwidth. We don’t believe in restricting your ability to add data to your website. We provide you with unlimited bandwidth as a standard part of your StoresOnline Pro website package. -Dynamic image optimization
Most website images need to be compressed and optimized, before they are put on your website. The StoresOnline Pro website builder automatically does this for you, when you add an image to your site. Security – Protection Against Danger and Loss
128 Bit SSL Encryption
Your site will be protected by the most powerful level of security allowed by law.
Daily Auto Backup
You can rest assured that the website you have built will be backed up everyday – keeping your website information safe and sound.
Firewall Protection
This security device was built to keep harmful attacks away from your website.
Visa/Mastercard Security Compliant
Our server is compliant with the current online security standards enforced by Visa and Mastercard.
At a Glance
Web-based interface
Two-disk training DVD
Shopping cart with advanced fraud-deterrent/protection
Internal order/invoice database
Invoice export
Modular building environment
Navigation management
Dynamic image optimization
Dynamic logo creation/layout
Internal site search engine
Customer relationship management module
Registration module
Real-time preview capability
Password-protected pages
Subdomain incorporation
UPS Online tools
Dynamic page and product creation/maintenance
Traffic and sales reporting
Order referral tracking
Per-click budget calculation
Keyword conversion rate reporting
Incomplete-order tracking
Compatibility with affiliate program
Basic and complex ordering/business rules
Unlimited images/products
Quantity discounting
Discount code capability
Email order/purchase notification
Product list management
Product-list-import interface
Featured products display
Multiple currency support
Multiple price set capabilities
Product-on-sale settings
Product description, features, and specifications management
Printable coupon creation
Viral selling tools
Unlimited product variations
EBay management module
SEO Tools
RSS Feed Integration Good enough? | Hmmm, can you provide me a link so I can see a working and functional demo ?
And 2 things I also noticed, they want the site hosted on their servers and it doesnt mention language packs or support. |
| XHIBIT | 10-25-2011 08:18 PM | Ok after doing some checking on StoresonlinePro Builder, this isnt an actual auction script.
Its basically an overpriced cart system.
They dont even have a working demo online, and I had to go to their generic success stories link and after checking 6-7 online stores they were pretty much all the same. |
| XHIBIT | 10-25-2011 09:12 PM | This is one of my primary concerns: Quote:
Originally Posted by freedomplz
(Post 281287)
Just wrap him in red, white and blue. Seriously now, a catchy name is very important and it would be be nice if it signifies fairness. The biggest problem with ebay/paypal is that they make decisions without looking at the facts. Any spiteful person/company can make a claim and ebay drops the hatchet without even so much as a mediocre investigation. :rant: | I want the site to function as fairly to both vendor and buyer as humanly possible.
Using an eBay policy, I would like for the seller/buyer to have a 5 day cooling off/negotiation period in hopes they can work the issue out themselves first.
If not they could escalate it to our claims division and after reviewing correspondence between the two parties, shipping tracking numbers, the nature of the complaint, images of the arrived item (if submitted), and the history(s) of the parties involved...a final decision would be made.
I think it would be fair if a leniency policy was applied to VIP vendors due to the nature of potential problematic sellers as well.
I personally don't have an issue with giving a seasoned seller the benefit of the doubt in these types of cases. I know exactly the frustration this causes because I've been the victim of unfair judgements by eBay even after the VERO member wrote eBay and retracted their claim. So yes once again, yes fairness will be a priority. Quote:
That said, I hope this new auction site will either start of by saying "all sales are escrow" instead of popping it on you just when you've made the first big sale ever - forcing you to wait 21 days to collect. If that is not illegal then neither is kidnapping for a ransom.
| There WILL BE NO ESCROW.
Especially if its using the Buy It Now Platform.
If a buyer renigs on a Buy It Now sale and the vendor reports him, the buyer will be contacted and the terms of service article quoted to him/her.
If after 5 days from the vendor report and the buyer does not make payment, that particular buyer is redlisted and will be watched. In addition the buyer will receive the first strike against his/her account.
During this phase the buyer will lose all selling privelliges for an as of yet undetermined amount of time.
If or when a problem buyer hits his/her 3rd strike, they lose their account, the IP address will be blocked and the username, physical address, phone number, and Paypal address banned.
There will be a zero tolerance policy for buyers that demonstrate repeat problematic actions. Quote:
When the hosting site makes more money than the seller, it is time to move on. Talk about buyer protection on ebay - Buyers can give negative feedback on a whim while sellers are forced to give positive feedback. Seems to me that means democracy is dead on ebay. Got my first paypal "hold today" - all of $.67. If this is a sign of things to come, I am dead meat. I'm all for a new seller's site.
| I'd also like to implement a policy that allows vendor/sellers to appeal negative feedback left by idiot buyers.
I have also been the victim of selling an item (new, packaged and with tags), shipping it, providing the tracking number (which arrived in 3 days), only to have the buyer lie and say the item was preworn and had holes in it.
Not only did she leave negative feedback after lying (which wrecked my 100.00% perfect feedback), she also lied and told eBay the item was not as described (which it was EXACTLY as described).
After checking out her past feedback I discovered that she was indeed a problem buyer and was a serial negative feedback giver.
As stated there will be a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY against these types of people. They can keep that **** on eBay. |
| mememe1972 | 10-25-2011 11:19 PM | we have the momentum why not used it =} |
| mememe1972 | 10-25-2011 11:22 PM | We must get away from them but this is the way we start knew ways of making money =} |
| mememe1972 | 10-25-2011 11:22 PM | =}Only america |
| FrancisK | 10-26-2011 03:59 AM | Here is the problem in my opinion....
Everyone here who was banned from ebay claims it to have been some great injustice. Sure there are some outliers but just about everyone who has been banned was banned for legitimate reasons. Ebay didn't want to get rid of us, we all violated some policy whether it was intentional or not. Instead of coddling us Ebay gave us the axe, we might not have liked it but in reality it was the right thing to do. I know when I buy a handbag on ebay for my sister I don't want to have to dodge a million chinese ones, when I buy software I don't want to weed through millions of pirated versions and when I buy something period I don't want to have to be taking a big chance on getting scammed because ebay doesn't screen their sellers.
I'll tell it to you straight right now, I deserved to be banned. Even though it was just a matter of ignorance I was selling items which violated policy and continued to do so after being warned, they gave me my chances and I didn't learn my lesson until it was too late. If you start a new site you're surely going to have to suspend people who violate policy. Otherwise it won't be very long before you're in court, jail or just have a dead website because nobody trusts it. Eventually you're the same as ebay, just with less customers.
There is a reason why ebay gears everything towards the buyers. Attracting sellers isn't a problem, everyone on earth likes to make money, it's much harder to find people to spend their money.
We'll have Aspkin start a new category on the forums for getting back on your new site along with a stealth book dedicated to it. :D |
| First Edition | 10-26-2011 06:30 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by FrancisK
(Post 281713)
Here is the problem in my opinion....
Everyone here who was banned from ebay claims it to have been some great injustice. Sure there are some outliers but just about everyone who has been banned was banned for legitimate reasons. Ebay didn't want to get rid of us, we all violated some policy whether it was intentional or not | Wrong. You're projecting your own experiences onto strangers. There are a lot of people that have been kicked because they sell high risk, they sell as sole proprietors, they have bad credit... in 2008 they were kicking people off with 99% positive feedback and 3.8 DSR's. When you say things like this, it makes me not care what else you have to say, because you don't consider every circumstance, and you're not looking at the bigger picture. Perhaps you assume everyone is kicked for a good reason because you were?
Some people just want to be able to sell in a stealth fashion... others have been kicked for good reasons, others have been kicked because they moved into a house of a suspended seller, for example.
Although, I have been trying to tell these guys ebay is a business, and there are good reasons why they do the things they do. If you think you can run a site without doing these things, you're wrong, and naive. |
| XHIBIT | 10-26-2011 12:26 PM | Quote:
Everyone here who was banned from ebay claims it to have been some great injustice. Sure there are some outliers but just about everyone who has been banned was banned for legitimate reasons. Ebay didn't want to get rid of us, we all violated some policy whether it was intentional or not. Instead of coddling us Ebay gave us the axe, we might not have liked it but in reality it was the right thing to do. I know when I buy a handbag on ebay for my sister I don't want to have to dodge a million chinese ones, when I buy software I don't want to weed through millions of pirated versions and when I buy something period I don't want to have to be taking a big chance on getting scammed because ebay doesn't screen their sellers.
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This may be the truth in some cases, but not in all.
For example my ban came at the heels of being falsely accused by a VERO member.
After contacting the member via eBay, she requested I send her, personal digital images, receipts and/or invoices (which I did).
Within 24 hours she wrote me back and apologized and her EXACT words were: I'm tremendously sorry for any inconvenience caused. There is nothing here that indicates your item violates our anti counterfeit policy or trademark policy. I have contacted eBay and requested that your suspended account be reinstated.
After 3 days of still being locked out of eBay I called them myself and asked them had they received the VERO members reinstatement request and was told that they had decided against reinstatement and to file an appeal.
I never had an outstanding balances owed to eBay.
I had a 98 % feedback rating with 411 positives.
All my information was correct.
The account itself was over 3 years old.
The PayPal account was rewarded privilleged member rewards.
Although I did have 1 prior suspension for 3 days, the protocol is normally 3 suspensions and you stand a good chance of being outted.
This was not the case for me.
In fact out of all my positive feedbacks accrued, I only encountered 2 problem buyers (one of which I probably should have handled differently which I blame myself for losing patience with).
Assuming EVERYONE is probably guilty of T.O.S violations on eBay and at some point deserving of a suspension/ban is as wrong as spandex at Fat camp.
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