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iloveghosts 05-24-2018 10:28 AM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nate (Post 921792)
I'm confused... with stealth, the nail that stands out gets hammered. If you hide all your TCP info you would stand out. If you spoofed it to look like a regular user. You would look like you do now.

There is no one single finger print for a PC that I know of. There are only odds of how many other PC's have the same finger print. The more PC's have the same finger print the better off you are.

If you want to kill all this, why dont you run Windows or Linux with a GUI on a VPS and remote into it with teamviewer or something similar.

Because VPS and Teamviewer can be detected by WebSockets and analyzing behavior. Your mouse will be slow at remote stuff, or sometimes you face glitches. The mouse is not smooth at all. This can be easily detected using Machine learning. You just need to send all data, then ML algorithm does the magic.

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 10:31 AM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveghosts (Post 921796)
Because VPS and Teamviewer can be detected by WebSockets and analyzing behavior. Your mouse will be slow at remote stuff, or sometimes you face glitches. The mouse is not smooth at all. This can be easily detected using Machine learning. You just need to send all data, then ML algorithm does the magic.


You do not have JS knowledge based on your talk. They can fingerprint everything, from your behavior to browser. Look at Biocatch, they can detect you even you switch computers. I do not need to hide TCP, I just want to spoof it to look like a normal user.

A user with Linux TCP print looks strange to them expect an android phone.

I know PayPal also use their own Biocatch system. Look at their JS, Mouse events clearly programmed into the script.

nate 05-24-2018 10:33 AM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
And the plot thickens. I feel like Im watching fight club.

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 10:37 AM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nate (Post 921801)
And the plot thickens. I feel like Im watching fight club.

Well, no fight club. Here is some simple example :

Browser Fingerprint: Mac OS X
TCP Fingerprint: Linux
ICMP Fingerprint: Linux

This, of course, gets a red flag from PayPal system. They have millions of users with millions of TCP & ICMP fingerprints, so I believe they can analyze everything better than WITCH or any other company.

Amazon is not using TCP/ICMP as per my research. They use another kind of stuff.

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 10:38 AM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Browser Fingerprint: Android
TCP Fingerprint: Linux
ICMP Fingerprint: Linux

This is a legitimate example.

nate 05-24-2018 10:41 AM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
I feel like we are getting trolled... This user joined today. Admin could run his IP and see how good he is at stealth to see what we're dealing with.

Either he has a big vocabulary as a troll or he works for someone.

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 10:45 AM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nate (Post 921806)
I feel like we are getting trolled... This user joined today. Admin could run his IP and see how good he is at stealth to see what we're dealing with.

Either he has a big vocabulary as a troll or he works for someone.

I do not troll anyone. I ask help from Experts. I used Proxy to sign up at Aspkin. I'm good at OpSec.

I had another account here but now I cant remember username or password.

nate 05-24-2018 10:51 AM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveghosts (Post 921808)
I ask help from Experts.

Sounds like your the expert... Only reason I jumped on this thread is because it actually looked like it would stimulate my mind.... Instead you blew my brains out... And that doesn't happen to me on this forum anymore.

MM78 05-24-2018 11:57 AM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
This whole thread is pointless, we aren't hacking into the NSA or trying to do anything exotic.

By the way, I went to the site http://witch.valdikss.org.ru/ with my VMWare using my Portable Browser, while connected with my Proxy....and here are the results...

https://i.imgsafe.org/6e/6ea8ca9c1e.png

Every once in a while someone comes on here with some over the top bullsh*t when it isn't needed.

nate 05-24-2018 12:25 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 921834)
This whole thread is pointless, we aren't hacking into the NSA or trying to do anything exotic.

By the way, I went to the site http://witch.valdikss.org.ru/ with my VMWare using my Portable Browser, while connected with my Proxy....and here are the results...

https://i.imgsafe.org/6e/6ea8ca9c1e.png

Every once in a while someone comes on here with some over the top bullsh*t when it isn't needed.

That thing only knows if the MTU isn't 1500. If your MTU isnt 1500 it assumes your using OpenVPN even if you not.

Or its a phishing site...

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 12:35 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 921834)
This whole thread is pointless, we aren't hacking into the NSA or trying to do anything exotic.

By the way, I went to the site http://witch.valdikss.org.ru/ with my VMWare using my Portable Browser, while connected with my Proxy....and here are the results...

https://i.imgsafe.org/6e/6ea8ca9c1e.png

Every once in a while someone comes on here with some over the top bullsh*t when it isn't needed.

What about your OS shows in TCP? This tool is not modified, He just made it for DEMO but other companies already use TCP. Ok, I talk bull****, I will go to do my business then. None of you care about it.

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 12:36 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Compare your VM OS with TCP OS then see the difference.

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 12:40 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 921834)
This whole thread is pointless, we aren't hacking into the NSA or trying to do anything exotic.

By the way, I went to the site http://witch.valdikss.org.ru/ with my VMWare using my Portable Browser, while connected with my Proxy....and here are the results...

https://i.imgsafe.org/6e/6ea8ca9c1e.png

Every once in a while someone comes on here with some over the top bullsh*t when it isn't needed.

By the way, NSA hacked long-time ago. I hope you know about shadow brokers and Snowden.


Here an example of a company who use TCP to prevent fraud and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts.

https://www.pymnts.com/assets/Upload...Network-WP.pdf

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 12:44 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Detection of a mismatch between the operating system information reported by the browser compared with operating system information reported by the TCP/IP operating system fingerprint.

This Pymtns paper clearly describe this on Page 11

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 12:47 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
MM78, The fact is your proxy os shows as Linux. This proves you are using Proxy/VPN.

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 12:52 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
There is another site which use IP latency to detect proxies. You can see it from here https://whatleaks.com/

Scroll down to PING.

MM78 05-24-2018 01:04 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Jesus Christ, it's like attempting to walk across a street by levitation instead of just using your feet. Stop trying to make it more complicated than it is.

https://i.imgsafe.org/6f/6fa95d51e0.jpeg

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 01:08 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 921863)
Jesus Christ, it's like attempting to walk across a street by levitation instead of just using your feet. Stop trying to make it more complicated than it is.

https://i.imgsafe.org/6f/6fa95d51e0.jpeg

Ok but scroll down in the same site, and see passive os fingerprint then send me a screenshot.

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 01:13 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 921863)
Jesus Christ, it's like attempting to walk across a street by levitation instead of just using your feet. Stop trying to make it more complicated than it is.

https://i.imgsafe.org/6f/6fa95d51e0.jpeg

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nate 05-24-2018 02:00 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
https://image.ibb.co/h5301T/Screensh...2_40_11_PM.png

Not true... It says exactly what his says or I used text editor too I suppose just to troll you right? And my home IP is on blocked list... I kind of find that hard to believe since it comes from Time Warner but WTF.

iloveghosts 05-24-2018 02:08 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
I have Hackintosh VM, so the text different in mac then. Ok, He is honest then. Jesus will love him. It looks like you are near to IP location that's why it does not catch the PING.

What about your Passive OS fingerprint? None of your guys showed me that one.

MM78 05-24-2018 02:36 PM

Re: VPN & Proxy Detection, Browser Spoof Detection using TCP
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveghosts (Post 921877)
What about your Passive OS fingerprint? None of your guys showed me that one.

Keep your pants on....
https://i.imgsafe.org/71/7102f6d070.jpeg


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