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Mayhard 09-23-2019 02:06 PM

Does VPN really give you privacy?
 
The big question...

So does VPN really give you privacy? From what I have found and as far as I have understood, all the data is routed to the VPN instead of your ISP, so is it basically not the same? Is it not that the data just changes the 'vessel' ?

phaz0rz 09-23-2019 02:12 PM

Re: Does VPN really give you privacy?
 
Since VPN traffic is encrypted, I would think you're trading privacy from your ISP for a lack of privacy to the VPN company. The ISP can still see that you're online but they don't have the keys so they can't read your encrypted traffic, aside from maybe which protocols are being used. The VPN company does have the keys so they can presumably see all of your traffic if they want to.

There was a case back in 2003 where the FBI setup their own VPN company, then advertised it as a carding service on carding forums for $50-75/month. They captured all kinds of juicy traffic and indicted several people as a result. I'm pretty sure it was called (or was a part of) "operation firewall".

Mayhard 09-23-2019 03:41 PM

Re: Does VPN really give you privacy?
 
those VPN providers that declare themselves privacy friendly, do they keep the keys too? and what about those 'no logs kept' statements? Are they just vain claims?

WEI 09-23-2019 09:37 PM

Re: Does VPN really give you privacy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayhard (Post 1035861)
those VPN providers that declare themselves privacy friendly, do they keep the keys too? and what about those 'no logs kept' statements? Are they just vain claims?

That's 50/50. For security/record reasons, VPN providers do keep the logs.
You really can never know, tbh. Better to setup your workstation away from your 'personal' stuffs. :thumb:

Mayhard 09-24-2019 05:11 AM

Re: Does VPN really give you privacy?
 
so is it valid to conclude that the privacy gained from VPN is just a vain statement?

phaz0rz 09-24-2019 06:16 AM

Re: Does VPN really give you privacy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayhard (Post 1035861)
those VPN providers that declare themselves privacy friendly, do they keep the keys too? and what about those 'no logs kept' statements? Are they just vain claims?


IMO, those (false) claims are a gimmick. They'd have to keep the keys, otherwise your VPN traffic would reach their servers as a garbled mess and your connection wouldn't work.

treyallover 09-30-2019 10:23 AM

Re: Does VPN really give you privacy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mayhard (Post 1035848)
The big question...

So does VPN really give you privacy? From what I have found and as far as I have understood, all the data is routed to the VPN instead of your ISP, so is it basically not the same? Is it not that the data just changes the 'vessel' ?

Yes, a VPN will provide an additional security layer but it isn't a comprehensive solution for total anonymity.

Identify your problem first and work backward from there.

What do you want to be private, and who do you want to hide from?


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