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hazy 07-27-2012 11:01 AM

Verizon jetpack and it's MAC address, spoof or not?
 
I finally invested in the jetpack mobile broadband and was wondering if I should be spoofing the MAC address? What do you guys think?

cheapandeasy 07-27-2012 01:33 PM

I don't know about spoofing the Mac at all. Just curious...doesn't verizon only offer a static Ip address? My guess is that if that is the case you will have to spoof, but idk.

unkown5454 07-27-2012 01:50 PM

This is a mobile MiFi device on 3G/LTE service. Not the FiOS home service...

cheapandeasy 07-27-2012 02:00 PM

That is correct...what does that conclude please?
Is the jet pack usable? If yes, what measures must be taken?

hazy 07-27-2012 05:29 PM

I am assuming its usable since I have read posts about people using it and loving it. I just don't know if it has to be spoofed first...

unkown5454 07-27-2012 09:29 PM

It should be changing IPs every time it connects to a tower, aka turning it on. Don't need to be doing any spoofing. Just keep track of the IPs.

hazy 07-27-2012 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 363482)
It should be changing IPs every time it connects to a tower, aka turning it on. Don't need to be doing any spoofing. Just keep track of the IPs.

Awesome, just the answer I was hoping for. Thanks!

First Edition 07-27-2012 11:44 PM

my answer - I don't know. The ip address works well, but you have to log it, especially if you're in 4g service. But I don't know about resetting the MAC... if you're logging in from a USB connection or wifi? I'm not tech savvy enough to know.

GreenBean 07-28-2012 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazy (Post 363502)
Awesome, just the answer I was hoping for. Thanks!

To cover yourself run
IP Burger - What is my IP Address? Find Your IP Address! B4 you sign into your accounts and check your IP.
This nifty aid was created by our own aspkin.
Also make use of your excel sheet to log IPs.


It's not usual to need to spoof a mac address if the IP is dynamic.... at least in any I have used
:pop2:

hazy 07-28-2012 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 363534)
To cover yourself run
IP Burger - What is my IP Address? Find Your IP Address! B4 you sign into your accounts and check your IP.
This nifty aid was created by our own aspkin.
Also make use of your excel sheet to log IPs.


It's not usual to need to spoof a mac address if the IP is dynamic.... at least in any I have used
:pop2:

Thanks greenbean! Yea I plan on logging ip's in excel and labeling them for the account they were used with so duplicates don't go to waste. Is there a way to make the spreadsheet auto search for duplicates or do I have to run it manually every time I add an ip?

GreenBean 07-28-2012 10:46 AM

@hazy.

Was info somewhere..

Bit hazy right now.
(Soz :pound:)

hazy 07-28-2012 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 363566)
@hazy.

Was info somewhere..

Bit hazy right now.
(Soz :pound:)

Are you asking if I found info about finding duplicates in excel? If so,
I haven't found anything yet.

cheapandeasy 07-30-2012 02:43 PM

Damn, I had the guy at best buy contact Verizon, and I also contacted Verizon myself. Both times they told me the the jet pack provided a static IP. Is it possible that this is exclusively in my area? What gives. I would prefer the JetPack route if it will work for me.

slim jim 07-30-2012 03:04 PM

it is dynamic in the us...

First Edition 07-30-2012 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheapandeasy (Post 364050)
Damn, I had the guy at best buy contact Verizon, and I also contacted Verizon myself. Both times they told me the the jet pack provided a static IP. Is it possible that this is exclusively in my area? What gives. I would prefer the JetPack route if it will work for me.

best buy employees - not verizon employees - usually stupid and not motivated

most verizon employees don't even know what an ip is

Call verizon and have them uncheck the line item in NetAce that makes it static. Someone has to go out of their way to make it static.... but uncheck the box. Also, get a usb card and don't use the little wifi box.

slim jim 07-30-2012 03:41 PM

most service providers in the us only provide static ip's to businesses, otherwise you have to use a 3rd party service

JJGold 07-30-2012 03:47 PM

Is the IP pool large or do you get repeat IP's often. I'm testing T-Mobile and I get repeat IP's often while living in one of the largest cities in the US. Looking for an alternative.

cheapandeasy 07-30-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by First Edition (Post 364060)
best buy employees - not verizon employees - usually stupid and not motivated

most verizon employees don't even know what an ip is

Call verizon and have them uncheck the line item in NetAce that makes it static. Someone has to go out of their way to make it static.... but uncheck the box. Also, get a usb card and don't use the little wifi box.

Thank you for this info.

First Edition 07-30-2012 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabbislimjim (Post 364067)
most service providers in the us only provide static ip's to businesses, otherwise you have to use a 3rd party service

No.... you just have to pay extra for a static IP with most broadband/dsl connections. It's available to residential and commercial all the same. Unless your provider doesn't, but that's a unique circumstance I would imagine. It's a pretty standard request. Some people want it for security.

nobody999 07-30-2012 09:07 PM

how much are you paying for your jetpack service?

unkown5454 07-30-2012 09:08 PM

All depends whether you are prepaid or postpaid. Plans are totally different.

First Edition 07-30-2012 09:11 PM

verizonwireless.com

slim jim 07-30-2012 09:57 PM

yes you are right, i did not mean they did not provide them at all but it was not the standard package which is given out

bocaloco32 08-02-2012 05:56 PM

I have had the Verizon Jetpack now for about 2 months. The Verizon sales associate told me it was Static. He was wrong. I tested the unit in-store before I purchased it. Every time you turn the unit off/on it produces a new IP address. The IP pool is HUGE! I keep track of my IP's on a spreadsheet and I have gotten maybe 2 or 3 duplicates out of over 200, so it is pretty awesome plus the 4g is fast!

First Edition 08-02-2012 08:54 PM

This is correct. most verizon sales people are complete idiots. You have to go out of your way to make it static... nothing sold by verizon comes out of the box with a static ip. If you're in 3g, the pool is huge. If you're in 4g, you need be careful because you could cycle through the same 2-3 ip's over and over the same session.

Beware.... pay close attention if you're in 4g.

unkown5454 08-03-2012 01:21 AM

Haha, yes, please do not expect their simpleton associates to have any knowledge on the networks technical backend operations.

It blows my mind that people believe whatever an associate tells them when purchasing anything cellular. Like, somehow, this lame a*s high school/college dropout is going to have a clue about anything other than pressing some buttons on a computer and charging your credit card. They are SALES ASSOCIATES, not highly trained and educated engineers.

slim jim 08-03-2012 10:14 AM

FE are you saying the IP in 4g will change without you turning it on and off?? How could i change it to 3g? the speed doesn't matter to me

First Edition 08-03-2012 01:54 PM

no no no.... I'm saying it may NOT change even when you turn it on and off. The pool on 4g ip's is smaller than 3g. Much smaller....

unkown5454 08-03-2012 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by First Edition (Post 365231)
no no no.... I'm saying it may NOT change even when you turn it on and off. The pool on 4g ip's is smaller than 3g. Much smaller....

Clarify between 4G and LTE. Verizon is LTE, where as Spring is WiMAXX aka their version of 4G at the moment. Sprint's WiMAXX has a huge IP range, but I don't have any experience with Verizon's LTE yet. I couldn't imagine it never changing on the JetPack when on LTE. Since my Sprint cards always work awesome, I just haven't felt like dropping the extra cash on the JetPack yet. Although, if you buy it prepaid at WalMart, you can just return it in 30 days and get cash back for what you paid on the device. Just not the data you bought of course.

First Edition 08-03-2012 04:59 PM

4G is just the 4th generation of speed... LTE is a different technology than wimax, but in fact Sprint is using LTE also. They jumped the gone on advertising wimaxx... You may be in an area that has wimaxx, but it's not relevant really.

I'm talking about verizon, specifically while getting recpetion at 4g speeds, you are very likely to repeat the same ip many times in a session, unlike with 3g (1xrtt or evdo).

4G just means it's beyond EVDO, it's the next generation. Some sprint devices and configurations repeat ip's as well...

However, with ALL verizon 4g devices on 4g connections (not on 3g connections) you are likely to repeat ip's. In other words, lets say you disconnect and reconnect ten times.... under 3g speed, you're very, very, very unlikely to repeat an IP. But, with 4g, you'll probably have something like this

168.76.467.22
168.76.467.22
168.76.467.22
168.76.782.10
168.76.467.22
168.76.467.22
168.76.782.10
168.76.756.23
168.76.782.10
168.76.782.10

unkown5454 08-03-2012 10:38 PM

No, not what I meant. I know the difference in networks. Sorry for the confusion. I just asked to clarify which one you were referencing in your experiences.

Also, turning any MiFi device on and off instantly will certainly repeat IPs. You need to give it 5-10 minutes. Can do less, but I cannot comment on Verizon's devices. So, my point is, of course you would repeat IPs so quickly. That is normal and not a problem. Just need to increase your time intervals between power cycles.

First Edition 08-03-2012 10:51 PM

Even with time, on 4g... it's very important to log the ip. I've gone a whole day without being able to reset the ip, unless I drove 2 miles up the road.

unkown5454 08-03-2012 11:19 PM

T-Mobile is notorious for that which sucks since they offer great plans. But, it was nice to see them finally admit they don't offer real 4G this past week, haha.


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