T-Mobile no longer works?

[Laritha]

I've spoken to a few people who say IP address changing using an Android phone no longer works. After going into "airplane mode" the IP doesn't change. Hmmm, thoughts?

[slim jim]

this is nothing new, ip addresses on a cell phone are very limited

[unkown5454]

This all depends on carrier. Unfortunately, T-Mobile is the absolute worst service to use when trying to get wide IP ranges. I feel bad for T-Mob. They can't do sh!t right and are getting absolutely raped in the telecom business in the USA.

[dhenrydg]

go get Cricket.. $30plan for 2GB

[unkown5454]

The discussion is in regards to IP range and availability. Price has nothing to do with this.

[Futuremogul888]

Originally Posted by slim jim

this is nothing new, ip addresses on a cell phone are very limited

This has always been the case because you are not paying for the item to be a primary internet source even if you do pay for phone as a modem. Get a good mobile broadband device (usb aircard, mifi, etc) and because they are meant as a primary internet source you will have a good range of IPs.

[unkown5454]

^^^ Where do you even conjure up information like that? Many reports this year have already been releasing data in regards to people using their mobile devices for the majority of their internet activity. Google and Facebook have both said more customers access their services via mobile rather than desktop.

[newjerseymax]

I have just about every company and they are all limited in IP and all repeat eventually... Must always keep track.

I recently added sprint to my load of devices and was happy to see lots of new IP first month and now its same ol stuff over and over...

Iphone was great at first.... Now stuck on 12 IPs for 3 months. I thought surely when I got iphone 5 I would have new IP's... Nope....

[Futuremogul888]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

^^^ Where do you even conjure up information like that? Many reports this year have already been releasing data in regards to people using their mobile devices for the majority of their internet activity. Google and Facebook have both said more customers access their services via mobile rather than desktop.

Where do I get such information...from the best source. I own wireless stores for one of the big 4 wireless providers in the US and the information comes from proprietary documents.

The reason the big 4 wireless providers in the US have largely gone away from unlimited data through setting gb limits and throttling is because they don't have the compacity to be the nation's majority internet provider (laptops, desktops, tablets and phones) while also providing wireless voice and wireless sms. As of current, the percentage of customers who either subcribe to aircard and phone as a modem service is a minority. The percentage of customers who do subscribe to those services and use them as their only internet source is even smaller.

Now what you said is there are many (uncited) reports saying people are using their devices for the majority of their internet browsing including google and facebook. Even if this is true, it is an irrelevant argument because it does not prove the intent of the service. The wireless provider is the one that decides the intent and the fact is your phone is not meant to be your primary internet source.

[unkown5454]

Originally Posted by Futuremogul888

and the fact is your phone is not meant to be your primary internet source.

This is hilarious. You claim to be in the industry and make a statement like this. Clearly you don't study your own work too much. The tablet and smartphone industry grows exponentially every year because people just love making phone calls.

Do you even know about the hotspot technology built into every one of these devices yet? Wonder why that happened?

[Laritha]

I think you guys are missing my point. The problem isn't with repeating IPs, the problem is they aren't letting customers change them on command anymore. They update them when they want, not just when you disable mobile data

[Futuremogul888]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

Do you even know about the hotspot technology built into every one of these devices yet? Wonder why that happened?

You are about 15 years late on this technology. The original pocket PC had 'hot spot' technology. Just because they have the feature to allow you to connect your computer to the internet, does not mean they want everyone to use their phones as their primary internet source. Wireless providers will actually cancel phone as a modem plans and aircards for too much usage even if you have an unlimited plan.

What about your limited knowledge of wireless networks makes you think they had handle the added traffic of being a full service internet provider. You are confusing the fact that wireless providers are now data driven vs being mobile broadband driven.

[unkown5454]

You are confusing tethering with hotspot that is now available on every smartphone. All cells had modems and still do of course. So, yes, for decades you could tether if you knew what you were doing.

Now, it is not only an available and advertised service on every smartphone, but it has a specific additional plan among all carrier data plans and you can wirelessly connect 5-10 devices to said modem.

What has happened now is completely different from what you speak of. Decades ago, there was no 3G, LTE, WiMax and no network was even half the size they are today.

If something is clearly ADVERTISED and MONETIZED by every major carrier in the country, you're really going to sit here and tell me they don't want you to use it? Can they handle some clown downloading hundreds of torrents or trying to run a game server off their device? Hell no, not yet. We aren't there yet. But, if their infrastructure could handle it and the customer paid for it, they're going to sell it. That day will come soon enough.

For now, I'll just keep letting you relive your glory days because you sound like you're about 100 years old and so is your mentality.

[GreenBean]

And pray tell me this

Has T-Mobile become a problem for someone considering its stealth usage.

Omit the testostrone loaded responses, ta.

[Futuremogul888]

Although I want to respond to Unknown5454, I'm done out of respect for you, Greenbean.

To answer the original question:

Phones for tethering and hotspot usage are no longer an option for stealth because carriers have limited their ability to change IP's

Aircards (USB Dongles, Mifi's) are still one of the best sources for stealth internet. The T-mobile rocket 4G and the Virgin Mobile U600 are great investments because of their cheap prices and large range of IPs.

[JJGold]

Originally Posted by Futuremogul888

......... The T-mobile rocket 4G and the Virgin Mobile U600 are great investments because of their cheap prices and large range of IPs.

My T-Mobile rocket 4g only gives me a range of 200 IP's. I've read that 3g offers the widest range. May buy an old 3g dongle and check it out. Any preferences for a 3g dongle?

[Futuremogul888]

Originally Posted by JJGold

My T-Mobile rocket 4g only gives me a range of 200 IP's. I've read that 3g offers the widest range. May buy an old 3g dongle and check it out. Any preferences for a 3g dongle?

The Virgin Mobile U600 gives you the option to toggle between 3G and 4G. It is on the Sprint network and the price is right.

[JJGold]

Originally Posted by Futuremogul888

The Virgin Mobile U600 gives you the option to toggle between 3G and 4G. It is on the Sprint network and the price is right.

Excellent, thanks. Just purchased the U600. Virgin has them 50% off for $34.99.

[moneyhustler88]

t mobile works fine for blackberry in uk

[Roscoe]

100% true. My brother in law is an executive at one of the top carriers in the country.

He told me the industry was not ready for all these smartphones. They are building new cell phone towers as fast as they can.

The problem is that EACH cell phone tower takes 18-36 months to build. Find a location (getting harder every day), get clearance from village officials and building departments, and then the actual construction.

If you want a job that pays well then find one of the companies that build these towers, they are working 7 days a week and making millions.

Originally Posted by Futuremogul888

Where do I get such information...from the best source. I own wireless stores for one of the big 4 wireless providers in the US and the information comes from proprietary documents.

The reason the big 4 wireless providers in the US have largely gone away from unlimited data through setting gb limits and throttling is because they don't have the compacity to be the nation's majority internet provider (laptops, desktops, tablets and phones) while also providing wireless voice and wireless sms. As of current, the percentage of customers who either subcribe to aircard and phone as a modem service is a minority. The percentage of customers who do subscribe to those services and use them as their only internet source is even smaller.

Now what you said is there are many (uncited) reports saying people are using their devices for the majority of their internet browsing including google and facebook. Even if this is true, it is an irrelevant argument because it does not prove the intent of the service. The wireless provider is the one that decides the intent and the fact is your phone is not meant to be your primary internet source.

[Furious George]

Originally Posted by Futuremogul888

Where do I get such information...from the best source. I own wireless stores for one of the big 4 wireless providers in the US and the information comes from proprietary documents.

The reason the big 4 wireless providers in the US have largely gone away from unlimited data through setting gb limits and throttling is because they don't have the compacity to be the nation's majority internet provider (laptops, desktops, tablets and phones) while also providing wireless voice and wireless sms. As of current, the percentage of customers who either subcribe to aircard and phone as a modem service is a minority. The percentage of customers who do subscribe to those services and use them as their only internet source is even smaller.

Now what you said is there are many (uncited) reports saying people are using their devices for the majority of their internet browsing including google and facebook. Even if this is true, it is an irrelevant argument because it does not prove the intent of the service. The wireless provider is the one that decides the intent and the fact is your phone is not meant to be your primary internet source.

I could fertilize my lawn with this.


Here's a good video I like:

Why Data Caps Suck: The Animated Examination - YouTube

Why Data Caps Suck: The Animated Examination - YouTube

[unkown5454]

Originally Posted by Furious George

I could fertilize my lawn with this.

Glad to see someone here understands. Got a few members here who have been a bit brainwashed...unfortunately, it's what the big boys do best to maintain their infinitely growing duopoly.