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Jonas 02-01-2008 07:33 PM

How to help everyone here out
 
How to help everyone here out


One guy single guy, Wally Anderson, is in charge of all the approving of if you can sell without paypal anymore. So we must prove to him PayPal sucks.

Go and fax to 866-309-6493 and do ATTN: Wally Anderson and write long persuasive letters on how paypal is unsafe for BOTH the buyer and the seller. http://faxzero.com/ = free internet faxing.

Here is just an example. You should write your own and try to aim for more persuasiveness. Visual A.I.D.S. like comics from paypalsucks.com are a plus ........


Dear Wally Anderson,

While I understand you are order by eBay to make it hard for people to use anything other than eBay's own system PayPal that eBay wants a monopoly on, it would make life in the world better if you were nicer and approved people without doing things like suspending them if they don't immediately answer the phone or quizzing them forever with personal questions when they do answer. There's alot of stuff about you on many different websites.

Please consider these points:

- If your paypal account gets hijacked, someone can drain your bank account and you can do nothing about it. Whereas if someone steals your credit card, you call your credit card company and don't have to pay for any of those charges
- PayPal demands social security numbers if you get like more than a few hundred total sales. They don't tell anyone this until they're already demanding it. People have reported identity theft happening due to giving PayPal their social security number.
- Foreign countries don't have social security numbers and so paypal doesn't ask for them. Outside of the USA is where most scammers are, too.
- If your paypal account goes negative and paypal can access to your bank account, paypal will drain your bank account. Then when it hit zero paypal will hammer it dozens of times a day and you get $300 of NSF fees.
- if a person buys from paypal and wins a dispute, the buyer only gets money if the seller has it in their account. If the buyer used paypal funds or a bank account then the buyer never gets it back.
- Paypal always asks for your bank account in a devious way like "congradulations you've won the jackpot and get to see how easy it is to add your bank account."
- Adding a bank account is called "verified" when it just lets paypal drain the account and credit card's AVS system offer better verification of a person's identity.
- eBay and PayPal always lie by falsely claiming that paypal is safe.
- Buyers almost always win chargebacks when it's through paypal because paypal doesn't tell sellers credit card's criteria for chargebacks. People with merchant accounts actually get the criteria. They need AVS match on street and zip, then they need it signed by the actual credit card holder (and not a family member either) to defeat chargebacks both for "not received" and for "I didn't order it". AVS alone with delivery confirmation even if it's right to their billing address counts for nothing to credit card companies.

More ways why paypal is bad is on: www.paypalwarning.com

Thank you.

ebayhateluv 02-01-2008 08:02 PM

Jonas:
Am I missing something?? Ebay Owns Paypal, The Ceo said they were salvaged for their earnings, merely because of paypals earnings.
-- Ebay pays this guy
--Why would he want to help us get around paypal?
OR--am i missing the point?
Thanks!

GreenBean 02-01-2008 08:13 PM

How to help everyone here out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayhateluv (Post 23469)
Jonas:
Am I missing something?? Ebay Owns Paypal, The Ceo said they were salvaged for their earnings, merely because of paypals earnings.
-- Ebay pays this guy
--Why would he want to help us get around paypal?
OR--am i missing the point?
Thanks!

I think the same. The concepts may be true but the tone is harsh, a tad strong.

Jonas 02-01-2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayhateluv (Post 23469)
Jonas:
Am I missing something?? Ebay Owns Paypal, The Ceo said they were salvaged for their earnings, merely because of paypals earnings.
-- Ebay pays this guy
--Why would he want to help us get around paypal?
OR--am i missing the point?
Thanks!

If he is convinced to personally hate paypal, he'll be nicer at approving people.

GreenBean 02-01-2008 09:26 PM

That is a dream: he gets his income from the company, you want him to
turn? You want him to give up all his creature comforts? A dream,a dream.


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