| | | Ozzie_Stealth | 10-24-2019 03:14 AM | Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Hello all,
I am nearing the 180 day limit on my account. I am yet to receive any email.
However, I have phoned Paypal in numerous times and got conflicting responses. Some are saying my funds will be released, some are saying they are not unless I provide relevant documents. They said they couldn't "match" my passport.
What's my solution? Wait for 180 days ? Does it always get released?
Or start legal action ? |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-24-2019 04:23 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Stealth.
I spoke to them and they said they would release it. Another staff member said they need my driving license which I told them I dont have because I dont drive. |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-24-2019 04:32 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Funny this is. Earlier this year I had another stealth Spanish account and they released 10k euros with the stealth Id
Maybe the threat of legal action will force them to move back |
| james_112233 | 10-24-2019 04:35 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games 24k without ID ? no chance.
Expect a long battle. They will claim that money for themselves based on all the threads I have been reading.
Under their "acceptable use or damage policy" or something.
I would find a solicitor that knows about paypal right now and have him ready. |
Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Best of luck OP - it is going to be a struggle sadly to write |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-24-2019 04:42 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games I did submit ID, some of their staff members said it was accepted and my money would be released. Some other staff members said it wouldn't.
I got 10k euros - about 12k - released this year with a stealth ID.
In any case, I have spoken to a lawyer and they said the burden of proof is on them to prove your account is ⊗⊗⊗⊗. Simply saying your ID didn't match isn't enough. Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1043647)
24k without ID ? no chance.
Expect a long battle. They will claim that money for themselves based on all the threads I have been reading.
Under their "acceptable use or damage policy" or something.
I would find a solicitor that knows about paypal right now and have him ready. | |
| james_112233 | 10-24-2019 04:52 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzie_Stealth
(Post 1043654)
I did submit ID, some of their staff members said it was accepted and my money would be released. Some other staff members said it wouldn't.
I got 10k euros - about 12k - released this year with a stealth ID.
In any case, I have spoken to a lawyer and they said the burden of proof is on them to prove your account is ⊗⊗⊗⊗. Simply saying your ID didn't match isn't enough. | Fingers crossed all is well for you.
But i'm going based on the threads I have been reading in the recent weeks.
Keep us posted. And good luck. |
| Icykid298 | 10-24-2019 07:08 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzie_Stealth
(Post 1043626)
Hello all,
I am nearing the 180 day limit on my account. I am yet to receive any email.
However, I have phoned Paypal in numerous times and got conflicting responses. Some are saying my funds will be released, some are saying they are not unless I provide relevant documents. They said they couldn't "match" my passport.
What's my solution? Wait for 180 days ? Does it always get released?
Or start legal action ? | 180 days some time you don't receive an email and sometimes you do.
Umm.....I don't know why people are saying you won't get your funds. Unless your UK unless it has something to due with the amount.
But yeah in most cases at least for me when its 180 days if I don't receive the e-mail I have to call and often times speak to several different agents. No body know's what the hell their talking about over there. A lot of times an agent has to enable it for you to withdraw because the system still see's it as not being over 180 days or still locked or whatever. I've never had such a large amount locked in my PP account the most I've ever had is 7k or 8k. I normally don't need documents either and you shouldn't either imo....
You are always going to get conflicting responses with PayPal remember that
Also you always hear more about the cases of funds not being able to withdraw within 180 days and less about the cases THAT ARE ABLE to withdraw within 180 days because nobody is going to come on here to complain about receiving their money.
I hope you get your funds. |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-24-2019 07:45 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games What makes you think it is wrong?
It's an Australian account. Quote:
Originally Posted by tinsoldier
(Post 1043700)
He's wrong but let's hope paypal see it his way and decide in your favour. | |
| Icykid298 | 10-24-2019 07:46 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzie_Stealth
(Post 1043702)
What makes you think it is wrong?
It's an Australian account. | Ohhh....Australia might be different from U.S. then but I hope you get your funds |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-24-2019 07:49 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Funny thing is, I had another account stealth in Australia - used ⊗⊗⊗⊗ docs and it was verified Quote:
Originally Posted by Icykid298
(Post 1043704)
Ohhh....Australia might be different from U.S. then but I hope you get your funds | |
| vixa1337 | 10-24-2019 08:11 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Why put so much money in a stealth account in the first place?
Basically looking for trouble ... |
| phaz0rz | 10-24-2019 08:11 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games I think your chances are 50/50 (maybe better) unless you were selling CBD. If you were selling CBD they will probably keep your money. For sellers not selling anything in the marijuana industry, I've seen it go both ways. The posts saying "no way without real ID" are fearmongering for no reason and without any real justification. Icykid is right when he says we only hear the bad stories here because people who successfully withdraw tend to just go away from the forum. More often than not, the money ends up being released after some foot work. Good luck. |
| vixa1337 | 10-24-2019 08:12 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Only way to take the money out after 6 months is with proof of identity and a bank account to withdraw or a different paypal account to transfer it to. |
| phaz0rz | 10-24-2019 08:13 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by vixa1337
(Post 1043721)
Only way to take the money out after 6 months is with proof of identity and a bank account to withdraw or a different paypal account to transfer it to. | Categorically false comment, lol. :lol: |
| vixa1337 | 10-24-2019 08:16 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1043723)
Categorically false comment, lol. :lol: | This has always been the case for me on over 10 accounts. |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-24-2019 08:25 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games If PayPal could hold anybody's money then they would have an incentive to simply deny everybody's ID.
All they really have is a duty to make an initial check.
I was not selling anything illegal. My service was initially permitted by them and later banned Quote:
Originally Posted by vixa1337
(Post 1043726)
This has always been the case for me on over 10 accounts. | |
| vixa1337 | 10-24-2019 08:31 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games It's very simple, provide them with what they want and they will give you the money.
Everything they have done including 6 month limitation is to prevent them from any potential losses.
The legal threats you are making to them are a joke since you created the account with stealth details.
I suggest you wait the full 180 days (that could be reason 1 they have not yet released your money)
And if they rejected the document you provided (passport or whatever) means you did a poor photoshop job.
For this kind of money stuck in an account, i suggest you hire a professional for the requested docs, worked for me everytime. |
| supermic | 10-24-2019 09:20 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games I got the same issue. Stealth.
Submitted the documents required. Waiting (impatiently) for the results. |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-24-2019 09:27 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Keep me posted. My money is supposed to be free Monday or Tuesday.
I'll let you how I know. Quote:
Originally Posted by supermic
(Post 1043744)
I got the same issue. Stealth.
Submitted the documents required. Waiting (impatiently) for the results. | |
| vixa1337 | 10-24-2019 09:36 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1043749)
You can not and you've never been able to send money to other accounts after the 180 days. Withdrawing is the only option. | No, paypal does the sending on your behalf.
So they give you two options :
- Withdraw it
- Let THEM transfer it to a different paypal account that you will provide. |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-24-2019 09:37 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games I actually was able to transfer to another account. Had a Spanish one. Was stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 1043749)
You can not and you've never been able to send money to other accounts after the 180 days. Withdrawing is the only option. | |
| agent006140 | 10-24-2019 09:40 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by vixa1337
(Post 1043750)
No, paypal does the sending on your behalf.
So they give you two options :
- Withdraw it
- Let THEM transfer it to a different paypal account that you will provide. | I have never heard of your option #2,but if it does allow you to transfer to another account,that account would need to be able to tranfer to a bank,or send payment or buy something. |
| yankee | 10-24-2019 09:45 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games I am not going to read all the messages but I would wait until at least 180 days from last payment received and see what happens. As of right now, you are speculating and that is not helpful.
In the USA, not doing anything, not submitting anything and just wait for the 180-190 days to go by is normally the best option. In the USA, if you have a bank account attached, getting the funds is fairly easy doing nothing at all.
There is not many AU members posting these days so it is really hard to make an educated guess what will happen until AFTER the 180-190 days go by. |
| burbur | 10-24-2019 10:15 PM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Wait 180 days, try to withdrawn, if they say they want docs send them your REAL docs and tell them you opened the paypal on a wrong name.
If they reufse to pay you the money out or just ignore you like they do in the most cases make a complaint to crc@paypal.com for EU complains or if it is an australian then to auexecutiveescalations@paypal.com. Australia has also a number for escalations:+61 2 8223 9500
If you do not recive an answer within 30 days you can escalte the complaint to the supervisory authority (for australia it is 45 days).
if your paypal is australian check: www.afca.org.au
if it is EU check http://cssf.lu/en/consumer/complaints/
so far i got money from 3 paypals back by providing my real docs after they declined ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ones. I never had to escalte the complain to the autoritys. Only for the first time i did so since paypal ignored my mails. They answered me to writte to paypal escalation department which I did. after 20days they released my funds.
Just DO NOT send them ⊗⊗⊗⊗docs
Also for genereal information since i am expecting a ****storm:
-Yes it is agains paypals terms of use to open an account on a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name.
-No, Paypal is not legaly allowed to steal your many if you do so as long they can verify your identity. |
| agent006140 | 10-25-2019 10:05 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games I agree,sending them the real documents and explain why you are using a different name is better than sending ⊗⊗⊗⊗ documents. |
| Leader2dark | 10-25-2019 10:07 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games I just got 4.5k out of paypal when they KNEW the ID was bad because that was why the account was limited in the first place.
They never asked another ID. I just had to call after 180 days and they unlocked my account.
Unless you are selling bad goods, or restricted goods, I really don't think there should be any issue. |
| agent006140 | 10-26-2019 07:23 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games 180 days is for cc chargeback,if one is selling counterfeit,it could be forever!
-question-
if you tell Paypal you open this account with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID and now you want your money by presenting your real ID,how does Paypal know if you are the real owner of the account? |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-26-2019 07:50 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games They dont need to. As long as they ask for it....its fine Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1044193)
180 days is for cc chargeback,if one is selling counterfeit,it could be forever!
-question-
if you tell Paypal you open this account with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID and now you want your money by presenting your real ID,how does Paypal know if you are the real owner of the account? | |
| agent006140 | 10-26-2019 08:42 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozzie_Stealth
(Post 1044199)
They dont need to. As long as they ask for it....its fine | if they dont check your real ID,then why bother to ask? |
| burbur | 10-27-2019 09:16 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by Leader2dark
(Post 1043996)
I just got 4.5k out of paypal when they KNEW the ID was bad because that was why the account was limited in the first place.
They never asked another ID. I just had to call after 180 days and they unlocked my account.
Unless you are selling bad goods, or restricted goods, I really don't think there should be any issue. | In EU they are not allowed by law to withdraw your money as long they can not verify your identity. So in EU it would not work. But i am not sure how it is in australia (OP is from australia) |
| Ozzie_Stealth | 10-31-2019 11:20 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games PayPal have not released my money saying that they need to review my account. Any ideas what to do ? |
Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by burbur
(Post 1044427)
In EU they are not allowed by law to withdraw your money as long they can not verify your identity. So in EU it would not work. But i am not sure how it is in australia (OP is from australia) | Could you back up your claim? |
| kovacicn | 01-26-2020 07:21 AM | Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by vixa1337
(Post 1043733)
It's very simple, provide them with what they want and they will give you the money.
Everything they have done including 6 month limitation is to prevent them from any potential losses.
The legal threats you are making to them are a joke since you created the account with stealth details.
I suggest you wait the full 180 days (that could be reason 1 they have not yet released your money)
And if they rejected the document you provided (passport or whatever) means you did a poor photoshop job.
For this kind of money stuck in an account, i suggest you hire a professional for the requested docs, worked for me everytime. | Can i ask you please, where i can find someone for this job?
Thank you! |
Re: Stealth 24k USD - Paypal Playing Games Quote:
Originally Posted by kovacicn
(Post 1064571)
Can i ask you please, where i can find someone for this job?
Thank you! | Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:
Might have to google and try or reach out to moderators for guidance (purple names) | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:01 PM. | |
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