PayPal limited Permanently - after 180 days does PP really send you a check? YES.

[Chris Hanson]

When you all say you email your customers a google checkout invoice do you mean email them through Ebay or to the buyer regular email?

If you email them thru regular email, how do you get the customers email?

[DogFacedBoy]

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson

Were you trying to withdraw money before you got limited?

I sent a payment last night for almost $20 for an actual EB purchase. Heck I think the guy had about 5000 FB and a power seller. Was that what might have triggered it?
What gets me is it looks like they want proof of shipping for everthing that I have received a payment for...like 4 items. I don't do delivery confirmation on shipping an item that was like $7! I haven't had the chance to go back to PP and try to jump through the hoops.

Could I start a new PP account with new ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info and then add one of my "real" bank accounts to it to make it verified? How about my real name, but an out of town address (My sister's). It would be my name, my real bank account, just a different mailing address. It would be verified right off the bat and I would make it premier or business. Could I then use that info (reg'd PP email) to receive payments from EB sales and to also make payments under the EB account that was being serviced by the recently limited PP account?

[DogFacedBoy]

Originally Posted by aspkin

With any Paypal account, once you start receiving funds in and out of the account, Paypal will limit the account for more information. It happens to everyone. Just give them what they ask for, they'll lift the account and go from there.

Bidpay is a good option for eBay.

Man they were asking for proof of shipping on everything that I had sold, add a bank account, verifiy information, fax upload documents...It seemed like it was asking for everything, but maybe only one. I suppose I could mail the other three addresses something with delivery confirmation just to prove that "something" arrived there. If that alone would do it great, about a $6 total investment.

Something tells me it's going to take more than that:(

Hey- can sympathize with you. Happened last month to me on a new pp acct. It happened right after i pd the Ebay fees (twice now)-so maybe thats my particular trigger?
Anyhow, ppal was called, they said as soon as they verify the buyers receipt of mdse, they will unlock, I had auctions running etc. Now, buyers start emailing me why did ebay send them the security alert.
Then I get a buyer claim for 3 items, ppal was faxed info same day.
PPal said as soon as buyers 3 claims are closed, they will lift.
I weighed pros & cons, I refunded this guy for 3 items, totaled $98. showed ppal, claims closed. (Buyer promised me he would repay as soon as mdse arrived)- Its been a month, buyer NEVER repaid.
As far as ppal- after they verified, still would not lift limit, (this is with 8-10 sales of average $25-$40 each)- said my acct type is high risk (antiques and ink pens)??? Go figure? Now they are sitting on about $300 for the 180 days.
BTW- I have heard they have 100 million accts, at any one time, they have 1% of users LIMITED, abg user has $45 in their acct, so thats $45 million dollars of Other peoples money that are always sitting on drawing interest, Nice scam, PayPal--huh? (ANd theres nothing that can be done about it)

[DogFacedBoy]

I saw 4 transactions that they wanted proof of shipping on. One I actually did because it was over $50 and I did not have a duplicate item. The other three were under $10 each and all were replaceable. I might be able to track the buyers info down through ebay, but can't access any of that info via the PP account because it is locked. I will send them all another package with delivery confirmation if that is all it takes.
It seems like PP was asking for everything but a full body cavity search.

[aaa1]

Originally Posted by Modee

I have been offering Bidpay officially on my listings (BUT keep in mind $1500. limit!), and also officially on my listings I do NOT accept PP AT ALL.
enter??

Does this affect your sales volume at all? I was thinking about it, but I'm afraid it's going to deter customers, especially if they are cheaper items. Not so much out of suspicion, but people just want an easier way to pay.

I've also thought of sending them a pp invoice from my regular account (4 yrs old) to avoid hassle with express checkout API to get no charges (until 5/08).

[aaa1]

Chris, if you look at your listing after the item has been sold, it lists the buyer's email.

[DogFacedBoy]

Originally Posted by aaa1

I've also thought of sending them a pp invoice from my regular account (4 yrs old) to avoid hassle with express checkout API to get no charges (until 5/08).

please explain how you do this without risking linking you good PP account.

Also what does API stand for?

[aaa1]

you can get a free shopping cart with mal's ecommerce. They offer you free pp charges if you use it w/pp until 05/08. For things like ioffer, i send an invoice with a checkout button created by the shopping cart and send it in an email. I haven't tried it w/ebay, but if it were a checkout button in email, there's no way to trace where the sale came from so there is no connection to ebay. You can also design them with paypal and insert in email, but you will be charged your fees, but there is no connection to ebay. you fill out item, price, and you email it. I think you might get busted though if you mention you offer paypal but not check it off in listing.

[DogFacedBoy]

Do you have a link to this service...to sign up?

[aaa1]

you mean mal's no. it has no relation to ebay at all. it's just some guy who offers a free shopping cart. even if you checkout with paypal's shopping cart button, there is no linking to ebay. you just create a button with a description, cost and off you go. you just need an email that can take html

[DogFacedBoy]

I just went over and took a look at Bidpay and am thinking of signing up...this whole PP thing has me frustrated.
I know that Bidpay probably has issues as well.
I have a couple of questions though...if I register with BP and my EB account gets shut down...I'm sure at some point it will, will I be able to use that same BP account with a new EB account should I have to create a new one down the road?
Also, should I provide "real" information to BP when I set up the account? It says I need a credit card in addition to bank account...does a gift card work for this? I have 2 bank accounts each with debit cards, but I'd like to use the same bank account (can't get a debit card with that one) for BP as I have been using for years for PP...will just keep things easier to keep track of in this underground

[DogFacedBoy]

Now I just signed into the EB account and I got the same damn message about during a recent examination on the activity of your EB and PP accounts...and wanted to prompt me to go to PP and make it all better. I hit continue and was able to get to my EB with no problems. If I don't get the PP thing cleared up for this account will it alone bring the EB account down with it?
A friend just called me tonight and wants me to put a couple of cars on EB motors for him. Am I better off trying to do it on this account which is now 30 days old with 4 positive FBs or a second account that is 2 weeks old with one FB or just set up a completely new account to do it on?
I'm meeting him in an hour and he'd like to have them on EB tonight.
I realize if I need to set up a new account I'll heave to wait until morning to get a new GC.

[DogFacedBoy]

It is holding right now, but I am afraid you are correct.
However who expects to have to provide proof of shipping on their first 3 or 4items that are all priced under $10? I have had no complaints about non-delivery or any neg FBs
That is ridiculous on any level even if I had never offended and these were my first accounts on EB and PP!

This leads me to a question... how does anyone pull off a non-verified PP account? I was under the impression that you could set up with a GC so you wouldn't have to provide your "real" info to PP or EB. If you can't get around providing your real info to PP at least and we have concluded on some level that PP and EB share information, what do you do?

[imjustme]

I think the reason they limited you is because you didn't add a bank account. They're not asking for your SSN or copies of ID, bank statements, etc. They just want you to add a bank account, which I don't think is that unreasonable. Sooner or later you'll want to withdraw and then you'll need it anyways.

[ebayphobia]

I MADE A MISTAKE HERE. THEY DO NOT LIMIT IT, IT'S WORSE, THEY CLOSED IT. HERE IS WHAT I GOT ::::NO SPECIFIC REASON WHATSOEVER....

PayPal is constantly working to ensure security by regularly screening the accounts in our system. We recently reviewed your account, and we need more information to help us provide you with secure service. Until we can collect this information, your access to sensitive account features will be limited. We would like to restore your access as soon as possible, and we apologize for the inconvenience.

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Why is my account access limited?

Your account access has been limited for the following reason(s):


Sep. 28, 2007: In accordance with PayPal's User Agreement and Acceptable Use Policy, we have closed your account. Your funds may be held for 180 days from the date of your last transaction. After 180 days, you will be able to access your funds by requesting an online bank transfer or, if applicable, a check from PayPal. Please update your address or bank information as we cannot be held responsible for checks issued to an incorrect address. We do ask that you please remove reference(s) to PayPal from your site.

(Your case ID for this reason is PP-343-275-539.)


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[soulassasin]

Ive heard they release most peoples money in 180 days? But im sure the theives have hung on to peoples money for longer.

Do tell

[rond100]

After 180 days you can request a check or do a bank transfer. Assuming the address is good or you put a bank account before they limited your account. If you don't they will happily hold your money until you do.

I highly recommend adding a bank account before accepting any payments to avoid a total lose.

During the 180 day wait. While you account is limited you are more likely to lose disputes and you total $$$ will go down.

[mantisinc]

It depends. If you provide them with all the info they require, they will ususally lift your limit within a week.

If you can't, then 180 day wait it is.

[sycore]

I just got me money from one of those accounts, Don't know if it matters, but it was like an 8 year old account I had from when they first started, the had limited me a few times over the years, but I always made up the info they wanted and had it lifted. The third time they limited and did not ask for anything, just sent me that we have decide to longer do business with you over security concerns BS. So about 180 days later, a little less actually, I get an email saying your funds are now eligible for withdrawal. You could have them send you a check or bank withdraw. didn't want to take a chance with the check because it was in business name and the old bank account I had closed down. So i just added a new bank account and withdrew to it, Funny thing is they sent those 2 small deposits to verify but sent the big balance also. So i finally got the money, but never verified so I can try and use that bank on another account.

[mantisinc]

So, really, there isn't actually ANYTHING to worry about when ebay freeze accounts (other than the 180 days wait...). I was concerned that they would only write a cheque out to the account holder, in most of our cases, a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name.

But if you are allowed to add a bank account for them to withdraw to, that's not so bad.

[jollybee]

I even went ahead and asked them about the 180 day hold and if the info. I read is true. They personally explained this is a rare situation for most account holders. They do this only when they basically smell a rat with the info. that is faxed and fear their customers will start doing chargebacks so they keep your money to cover their a** and not lose funds of their own--good ole' paypal protection. They also told me, those accounts that get held 180 days, if they do end up releasing them, it's not too long before they freeze them up again--they know they're not legit and are determined to bust balls until they can prove it.

Food for thought.