| | | no1fashionaddict | 12-10-2012 11:12 AM | $9500 in Limited Paypal! $9500 in paypal and they say i cannot appeal the limitation.. To top the icing on the cake i had 2 boxes $6000 spent on christmas inventory that has a status of clearance delay contact DHL and when i contacted them they said that they are doing an ipr inspection that well definitely take longer than a month.
Paypal waited until they received this months listing funds and i shipped everything and had good feedback to hold my money..
HOrrible.? can i do anything about either situation? |
| GreenBean | 12-10-2012 07:59 PM | What was the notice that caused paypal to say this?
Need lots more info to try to help.
It is horrible you had that much money in your paypal . Avoid that for the future.
:juggle: |
| hercheys | 12-11-2012 01:13 AM | Ugh!! Always ship products on-hand (phisical inventory),
(1) My fair guess is this products are coming from abroad (asia),,,"DHL is conducting an inspection" - intellectual property rights ("IPR"),,,Seizing ⊗⊗⊗⊗ goods is what customs (ipr enforcement) job is. Therefore, there ether never getting at your door and you should receive some letter in a month.
(2) PayPal sucks, but say goodbye to those funds on there, you will probably receive so many chargebacks is my fair guess, very not you best move and I wish the best but those are some scenarios that may happened. |
| no1fashionaddict | 12-11-2012 11:39 AM | 9500 in paypal.. :( Thank you for all the replies however I do want to clear up the fact that all my buyers items were delivered express even the international..
usa buyers received item the very next day and most left positive feedback..
Why would i have to kiss the money goodbye if everyone is happy..
also the $6000 of items in dhl was for the items i wanted to hurry and list before christmas.. sucks!
how do these purchased ebay and paypal accounts work? i need to spread this out some way as you guys suggest. btw most of the $9500 is released and sitting with no holds..
boy oh boy this really sucks.. what amount is safe to take in????thanks so much:doh: |
| bruceuk | 12-11-2012 12:05 PM | Contact one of the account sellers in the marketplace section they will explain how it works.
Trick is to spread it out over multiple accounts then if one gets removed from your possesion its not such a killer.
And as GB says dont leave in large amounts unless you can afford to lose it.
Down side to your situation is you have shipped the goods so you will have to wait the 6 months to realise the funds .
But i go by now the rule whatever i have in PP can be taken from me at any time for any reason . |
| lightmaria | 12-11-2012 12:32 PM | 6000 dollars on 2 boxes of inventory is a lot to buy at once in my opinion. Also from my experience the bigger the inventory box the more likely it is to get stopped for inspection, and I think since its near Christmas DHL is checking more and more boxes. |
| ripcitytix | 12-11-2012 04:28 PM | if you already delivered all the sold items you may be able to recover the funds in 180 days. |
| tarapluhar | 12-11-2012 04:31 PM | I always empty my paypal everyday and only leave 50.00 at a time and transfer for the rest to my bank. I have learned to never trust funds in paypal as ive been in the same situation as you.
I would call and talk to your account management team at paypal and ask them what you need to do to get it unrestricted as quickly as possible.. that is usually quicker than dealing with them through email.. hope that helps! |
| Roscoe | 12-11-2012 07:42 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by tarapluhar
(Post 400454)
I always empty my paypal everyday and only leave 50.00 at a time and transfer for the rest to my bank. I have learned to never trust funds in paypal as ive been in the same situation as you.
I would call and talk to your account management team at paypal and ask them what you need to do to get it unrestricted as quickly as possible.. that is usually quicker than dealing with them through email.. hope that helps! | I wish members here would quit making statements like this. You make it sound so EASY, it's NOT. Sometimes I have up to $30,000 collected by PP in 24 hours. It's NOT as easy as you think to make withdrawals. That's how people get stuck with monies in PP to begin with. :mad2: |
| no1fashionaddict | 12-12-2012 04:03 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Roscoe
(Post 400485)
I wish members here would quit making statements like this. You make it sound so EASY, it's NOT. Sometimes I have up to $30,000 collected by PP in 24 hours. It's NOT as easy as you think to make withdrawals. That's how people get stuck with monies in PP to begin with. :mad2: | i did call them many times.. i sent them ein info, id, receipts, tracking infor for everything and everything they asked for.. they said i cannot appeal the limitation.. also i would have withdrawn but the money was still on the dilivery confirmation hold which is now off..how long have you been with paypal to receive $30,000 IN 24 HOURS? |
| GreenBean | 12-12-2012 05:47 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by tarapluhar
(Post 400454)
I always empty my paypal everyday and only leave 50.00 at a time and transfer for the rest to my bank. I have learned to never trust funds in paypal as ive been in the same situation as you.
I would call and talk to your account management team at paypal and ask them what you need to do to get it unrestricted as quickly as possible.. that is usually quicker than dealing with them through email.. hope that helps! | Re-read the opening post, please. Be careful with your help.
OP has already been given the no appeal limitation notice.
It will be a remote chance that the account management team will even acknowledge the OP exists. Standard practise is to regard such sellers as lepers.
This is the usual form after these types of limits.
:peace: |
| jenupy2j | 12-12-2012 08:55 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by no1fashionaddict
(Post 400064)
$9500 in paypal and they say i cannot appeal the limitation.. To top the icing on the cake i had 2 boxes $6000 spent on christmas inventory that has a status of clearance delay contact DHL and when i contacted them they said that they are doing an ipr inspection that well definitely take longer than a month.
Paypal waited until they received this months listing funds and i shipped everything and had good feedback to hold my money..
HOrrible.? can i do anything about either situation? | Tough times my friend. Do not worry, I was in the same situation this time last year. I suggest you purchase the stealth guide & make multiple ebay / PP accounts & spread your sales... |
| AKasper | 12-12-2012 09:32 AM | I had the same thing happen to me a few weeks ago. Nothing I could have done would have changed their minds...ruthless b*stards |
| Roscoe | 12-12-2012 02:12 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jenupy2j
(Post 400612)
Tough times my friend. Do not worry, I was in the same situation this time last year. I suggest you purchase the stealth guide & make multiple ebay / PP accounts & spread your sales... | I did purchase the Stealth Guide several months ago. I now have several Stealth accounts. It's still hard to collect over $10,000 day and not have issues.
Withdrawing large amounts of money from PP is always going to raise Red flags. I have no idea what the amounts "may" be for Paypals guidelines before they question your account.
I had over $60,000 in my account and I tried to withdraw $28,000 (less than half the account) and PP gave me Hell to withdraw it. They actually had the nerve to ask me what I was doing with the money. I told them I was buying a car (true story) and the ******** made me fax the purchase order for the car before they released MY money.
I'd like to see more discussions here for LARGER type accounts that run $100,000 or more per MONTH thru PP. I am forced to use PP and can't use a merchant account. |
| bruceuk | 12-12-2012 02:26 PM | I think any organisation , bank , institution or bunch of ar*eholes would question a withdrawl of 28k as its out of the ordinary.
Maybe a bit more forward planning and a daily withdraw amount would not make it stand out so much.
There a company that thrives on profits and will shut the door at the slightest hint of risk regardless of your turnover so i personally would get into a nice routine of drawing £xxx amount every day .
Once a pattern is formed it does not show up on there radar so much . |
| Callidus | 12-12-2012 03:13 PM | bruceuk - Roscoe isnt dealing with products hes dealing with internet marketing or something similar, e-products so its even harder to prove to PayPal his customer actually received anything. Id love to be him when I get the money but getting it WOW.... thats hard |
| bruceuk | 12-12-2012 03:22 PM | I dont think it matters what the product is .
If your dealing in big numbers your a big risk .
Have you tried paying in a large sum in the bank in the uk lately ?
They treat you like some convict ... oh you cant have that much cash sir ..
And withdrawing is even more difficult .
But i think we are all missing the point here.
Look at the sitution if you had £5 in your pocket and no more due any time soon ..
Things can always be so so much worse than they are.
Yes you have to come up with interesting ways to do things and move cash around but its better than having no cash to move around isnt it ??
Long live stealth thats all i say .. |
| Roscoe | 12-12-2012 04:39 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by hdavey10
(Post 400668)
bruceuk - Roscoe isnt dealing with products hes dealing with internet marketing or something similar, e-products so its even harder to prove to PayPal his customer actually received anything. Id love to be him when I get the money but getting it WOW.... thats hard | That's correct, I don't use Ebay. I sell information products via Digital Downloads. My biggest day was over $33,000 in less than 24 hours. That's when I had a legit LLC account with PP. That account has since been banned by PP becuase they claimed digital downloads suck as a business model. Even though my refund rate was less than 4%.
Even with an aged account, when you get 30k in 24 hours it's almost impossible to withdraw that money. The 20k limit gets hit, paperwork is asked for, limited acccount, etc... :confused:
In those instances my Stealth is good for ONE day. :doh: |
| GreenBean | 12-12-2012 06:57 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Roscoe
(Post 400657)
I did purchase the Stealth Guide several months ago. I now have several Stealth accounts. It's still hard to collect over $10,000 day and not have issues. | Settle a bit eh.
jenupyj2 was replying to the OP's statement, not you.
You have a different set of circumstances. Avoid taking the thread OT.
:peace: |
| shoot2kill | 12-12-2012 08:54 PM | ...suck it up 8k, 4k and 2.5k in limited paypal from november, just play the waiting game!:thumb: |
| Roscoe | 12-13-2012 12:00 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by shoot2kill
(Post 400726)
...suck it up 8k, 4k and 2.5k in limited paypal from november, just play the waiting game!:thumb: | Dang! Hopefully you can answer a few questions for me.
How fast did that money pour into your accounts? The 8k, was that over a few days, weeks or months?
I make sure I link my bank account immediately before I attempt to sell anything. I'm worried that if I go over 20k in less than 72 hours (takes 72 hours for withdrawal to hit your bank) that PP will Limit my account and ask for paperwork (which I can't provide using stealth).
I read in this forum that someone got Limited, had to wait 180 days, but PP would NOT allow them to add a bank account until they received additional paperwork. The poster never followed up here so I have no idea what eventually happened.
Even if I were to "withdraw" funds day ONE paypal can still Reverse. They did it once already. 3 days into my "withdrawal" process PP reversed the transaction and my money did NOT go thru. Fortunately they released the money after 90 days because I had No refunds. I had to beg.
It was over $30,000, I honestly thought I would never get it. After if hit my bank I transfered the money immediately and closed the account. Has anyone here not had their money released by PP after a 180 days? |
| shoot2kill | 12-13-2012 01:16 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Roscoe
(Post 400750)
Dang! Hopefully you can answer a few questions for me.
How fast did that money pour into your accounts? The 8k, was that over a few days, weeks or months?
I make sure I link my bank account immediately before I attempt to sell anything. I'm worried that if I go over 20k in less than 72 hours (takes 72 hours for withdrawal to hit your bank) that PP will Limit my account and ask for paperwork (which I can't provide using stealth).
I read in this forum that someone got Limited, had to wait 180 days, but PP would NOT allow them to add a bank account until they received additional paperwork. The poster never followed up here so I have no idea what eventually happened.
Even if I were to "withdraw" funds day ONE paypal can still Reverse. They did it once already. 3 days into my "withdrawal" process PP reversed the transaction and my money did NOT go thru. Fortunately they released the money after 90 days because I had No refunds. I had to beg.
It was over $30,000, I honestly thought I would never get it. After if hit my bank I transfered the money immediately and closed the account. Has anyone here not had their money released by PP after a 180 days? | 8k was like a week and you do have to wait 180 days to get the money out, you can add a bank account to the account or have them mail a check out to you (name on stealth account and address) |
| Roscoe | 12-13-2012 02:09 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by shoot2kill
(Post 400768)
8k was like a week and you do have to wait 180 days to get the money out, you can add a bank account to the account or have them mail a check out to you (name on stealth account and address) | So you collected $8,000 in one week. Did you get Limited immediately or when you tried to "withdraw" the money?
If you got suspended when you tried to withdraw, were you trying to withdraw "some or all of the funds?"
Yes, I know that under Normal circumstances you can ADD a bank account, but someone here said PP would NOT allow them to add a bank account after they got limited. PP wanted additional info before they would allow him to add a bank account.
I had a legal LLC, PP limited my account with $60,000+ in it and they forced me to provide about 20+ documents.
Incorporation papers, recent profit and loss statements, invoices, etc... even though I was legal and had all the papers it was a nightmare trying to verify the info.
Mailing a check to a f@ke name and address obviously won't cut it.
I'm launching a new info product next week and I expect to take in about $15,000 in 5 days with a brand new Stealth account. That's why I'm trying to nail this down as best I can.
I'll keep everyone updated on how well this goes. :pop2: |
| arwoodco | 12-13-2012 09:19 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by lightmaria
(Post 400379)
6000 dollars on 2 boxes of inventory is a lot to buy at once in my opinion. Also from my experience the bigger the inventory box the more likely it is to get stopped for inspection, and I think since its near Christmas DHL is checking more and more boxes. | Back in 2004 or so, this would have not been an issue.
Now, everything is an issue.
I bought $10,000 worth of guitars from China and had no issue with them arriving.
I never had anything seized when I did such things. I did several such larger orders for guitars, car audio, etc.
Yet, I did it freight by sea shipment. I know DHL does freight, but not sure about this situation.
The border patrol does crack down at Christmas every year, though.
Back in the old days, this guy probably would not even be posting this problem. I would say, though, not the best timing to buy a ton of new inventory, due to the fact the gov't always cracks down at Christmas. Even China voluntarily does it at their borders around Christmas as well.
SAFEST WAY TO DO IT:
Probably via credit card through their payment system (not paypal).
Then, if something went wrong, you would be able to do a chargeback and return.
Usually, many will not outright go for it. So the best idea is to first buy a sample from them and when they are comfortable and you are comfortable, you can buy more.
Paypal is just not good for anything over $800.
So, I would not use Paypal for larger orders.
Also, ALWAYS take out your money. Do not keep a ton in your account. |
| jonyquest | 03-07-2013 05:57 AM | I had this situation in October 2012.
Get paid 7300 USD from Hawai [i am in Europe]. And get suspended for 180 days.
IT WAS TOTALY SHOCK. I was calling PayPal 4 days in a row - free calling i have. And no-one could help me. "We dont do bussines with you anymore".
So ok, i found Twitter "AskPaypal and David Marcus - he is new CEO" and wrote/tweet "WTF? 7300 in held for nothing?"... Got quick response try to solve this problem. About one month they got me chance to withdraw [not 180 days]. But NO MORE USING PAYPAL. So - lets read eBay Stealth... :] |
| pichetpipit | 03-11-2013 03:43 PM | The best way is to avoid too much money receive in a very short time. That's how PayPal flag the account as high risk. |
| Sandy D | 03-11-2013 04:16 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Roscoe
(Post 400750)
Has anyone here not had their money released by PP after a 180 days? |
Yes. It has happened.
And some people do not get the money because the remove the bank info and paypal cannot refund as it is only sent to the current listed bank the day it is limited. |
| Sandy D | 03-11-2013 04:19 PM | Now I know why my idea of selling on huge amounts of accounts looks even better all of the time.
No way will I allow pp to get their hands on MY MONEY in these numbers.
If I had 10,000 a day coming through one account I would be smart enough to be running it through one of my merchant accounts and not through paypal.
I have this kind of money coming in weekly and its through multiple pp accounts and not in one single pp.
Scary to think someone would allow pp to get their hands on 9500.00
Sorry OP, I hope you get this worked out. |
| Roscoe | 03-11-2013 04:29 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 430431)
Now I know why my idea of selling on huge amounts of accounts looks even better all of the time.
No way will I allow pp to get their hands on MY MONEY in these numbers.
If I had 10,000 a day coming through one account I would be smart enough to be running it through one of my merchant accounts and not through paypal.
| Not always as easy as it seems Sandy. The site I sell my Digital Products on only allows PayPal, no other merchant allowed.
I sell Digital Products, the cost to create is strictly my Time. No physical inventory.
Sometimes you have to chance it. So far the worst that happened is PP held my funds for a 180 days, so not the end of the world.
At least they are releasing funds, it could be much worse.
If I stopped using that site it would cost me 6 figures per year, so at the moment I'm willing to risk a limited account. |
| Roscoe | 03-11-2013 04:33 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jonyquest
(Post 429053)
I had this situation in October 2012.
Get paid 7300 USD from Hawai [i am in Europe]. And get suspended for 180 days.
IT WAS TOTALY SHOCK. I was calling PayPal 4 days in a row - free calling i have. And no-one could help me. "We dont do bussines with you anymore".
So ok, i found Twitter "AskPaypal and David Marcus - he is new CEO" and wrote/tweet "WTF? 7300 in held for nothing?"... Got quick response try to solve this problem. About one month they got me chance to withdraw [not 180 days]. But NO MORE USING PAYPAL. So - lets read eBay Stealth... :] | I think this new CEO may actually be willing to increase customer service response and helping out.
PP is getting new startups as competition, this will force PP to make some changes.
Hopefully it will help Stealth accounts. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:07 PM. | |
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