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Hi everyone,

Paypal put a 21 days hold on every payment I have been receiving. I ship the item right away to lift the hold faster.

May I ask if paypal decided to limit my account, what would happen to the money on hold?

does the money still being held in my account, or is it automatically returned to the buyer?

thanks so much for your help.
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It would have been nice if you had searched for an existing thread to put this post in, rather than creating a new one.
You've been a member since March and you have not learned that yet?

Search on "21 day hold": http://www.aspkin.com/forums/search.php?searchid=116272
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I did extensive search before posting the question. I just didn't find the answer.

I would be nice if anyone can help me out on this.

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You get limted paypal says F U and refunds the buyers and your screwed out of item and money.

Best thing is not to play paypals game
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Are you working under a personal or premier account? If you upgrade to a business account that problem does not exist I believe.

SWIM had an account that was not business and repeatedly had funds being held until shipped confirmed or 21 days after. SWIM upgraded to a business account and the same payments that were getting held, were coming in without holds. SWIM still had held funds from before they upgraded. But those were cleared later on and SWIM lived happily ever after.

Good story right?
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You dont have to be limited. Once they can confirm delivery you get the funds released.
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Three days after delivery you mean.

They still hold it to make sure no claims come up once its been delivered. Theres an easy loophole if youre doing shady items but who is?
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thanks for the help. I'm gonna stop selling for a while to until they release the fund. That way I could reduce my chance of getting my account limited.

May I ask how does paypal confirm delivery? I print usps label from paypal website with delivery confirmation. Do they check delivery automatically?

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yes that is how paypal checks to see if they received the item. delivery confirmation.
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it doesnt take 3 days for them to release the funds. I have found it takes approx. 24 hrs from delivery confirmation or when positive feedback is left. It kinda sucks b/c you have to slow down selling until all the money is released.

So I heard upgrading to a business account voids this whole 21 day hold thing? Can anyone confirm or verify this?
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Im going to correct SWIMs story. It reduces the amount of holds compared to premier or personal.

Also, Once positive feedback is left funds are released. BUT, if theyre lazy and dont leave it, on the THIRD day after the funds are released. It even says it in Paypals description of the hold. SWIM has also verified this numerous times down to the exact day.
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see I was right something new is going on with paypal. Now they added this to more troubles as it is. I will post some feedback on what I did to might be able to pass it....
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this would make it very difficult to start new account. You would have to build their trust very slowly.

In my experience, they leave you alone if you have a lot of feedback and long time account
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Right but for new people its a ton of hassles. You have to spend your money before you receive your payment days or weeks later. If the buyer isnt up tight or ridiculous, which nowadays, its a good coin toss.
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Another thing Im noticing is if the amount is over $100 in certain categories, it seems to always get holds. If its under I havent had an issue yet.
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meh holds on every transaction Im getting now. 1.00 to 50.00 dollars I tryed now.

positive feedback release it but hmmmm....

All tho what is interesting I havnt gotten limited up until now with all the transactions, in fact I gota chek my accounts now n see wuts going on will update.
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Paypal holds sometimes, but with me its random, some payments like 100 they hold, some 300 payments they dont. I think its category. i have had a 600.00 payment released automatically and have had to write them about a 200 payment lol!

just get tracking info when u ship, enter it in ebay and paypal, wait 3 days or after you get positive feedback, if it isnt released just write them or call them.
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I have gotten the hold released as soon as it shows delivery confirmation, speak to the person in the limitation department, you will have more clout if you have positive feedback selling the same thing and no priors.
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started using a new account this weekend. (well it was all setup over 6 months ago.) setup as a business account every payment I have received so far is being held. I'm listing in the t shirt category of all places. no high end electronics. t shirts.... average price 15 bucks, its down right retarded. I've been able to beat everything they've thrown at me in the last 8 years but I'm really stuck on this one.

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yea i don't think there is away around the hold. its weird tho, sometimes they hold and sometimes they don't. I just slows down the amount of items i list. I don't feel comfortable listing more items when i have over $500 still pending release.
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theres no sometimes to it for me its every time. really annoying. can anyone verify that if I refund these people and try to get them to pay off an emailed invoice that paypal will refund the payment? I read some where on here that they refunded and got a neg balance and the original hold was still showing.
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Update: As stated some transactions get released and most like us get held. I hav about 1000 in pending >.>, all tho im worried about limitation since I been having that for some odd reason. Sent tracking information been 5 days now still nothing.

To me it seems like we have to call paypal n tell them what business we do. First things first tho you would probally have to sell more n get more positive feedback. So no accounts that last a month like some people.

Will update with any more information I have. I am constantly trying to find a loop hole here.
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