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Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Depends on how the money was withdrawn from each account.

As for IP, remember, that they will originate from the same ISP. Do you keep a log of used IPs and made sure you never repeated any?

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Mine hadn't withdrawn but had received payments.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

always give a try i suggest you call PayPal and give it a try just like i did.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

The OP is from UK, and there has been a lot of reports from UK stealthers lately speculating that Paypal UK is cracking down on them with autonomous credit verification based on your account info.

This may not necessarily be the case with link.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

I think it is speculation and nothing more.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

I suggest you re-read ALL of the threads before making posts like that.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

What evidence is there for autonomous credit verification?

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

And I have read ALL of the posts. With interest.

If it were beyond doubt that autonomous credit verification was the cause of the limitations, there'd be a heck of a lot more panic in the UK section of this forum.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

As I said, I have not ever said that there is credit verification yet. None of this points to that.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

a bad day for stealth.

:mad:

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

So..... What did this mean?

Posts like what?

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Genuinely confused...

I said (paraphrasing) autonomous credit verification is speculation

You said (paraphrasing) nothing points to credit verification.

What upset you so much that you had to tell me to read ALL the other posts before I agreed with you...?

This place is getting weird.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Circumstances are changing by the hour with UK accounts.

Info is coming in from many sources.

There is a trend that appears to be happening.

More info, more analysis is needed.

Conjecture needs to be avoided.

:ranger:

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

I totally agree! I hate conjecture and speculation.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Agreed.

Totally ruins any hope of finding resolution.

Creates urban myths that sux.

:mad:

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

EXACTLY SAME story with me, also around the same date, between 26-29th Nov, 4 accounts down.

I even managed to salvage 1 of them as I got to speak to a nice rep, but the most weird thing is they wanted credit card and bank statement for all accounts when I called to have them reviewed- so it is either Entropay that is screwing us up OR I may have linked the accounts by sending 2/3 payments between my many pp accounts previously

Also all 4 were selling similar product which may be the reason but most likely I think it is sending payments or entropay issue

Was also taking in large amounts of cash with all 4 accounts, strange I have many more that were not doing so well in terms of cash and none of them got banned as of yet

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Without wanting to create gossip: It seems that those affected by the 'no email, no appeal' UK PP limitations are are hit mainly at the weekend? Mainly Saturdays.

Is there any contradictory info?

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

I've had my eye on Entropay for a while, however I lost 2 out of all my accounts (12-14 active) and all used Entropay so seems unlikely (to me, thinking analytically) that PP would can some Entropay cards, allow the majority to stay and allow still more to be used to confirm UK PP accounts.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Sending payments between accounts is a major Red Flag.

That may explain the request for Bank details to establish other possible linking activity.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

29/11 I wll remeber this day for looooong time :smash:

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

GB, has 29/11 caused more casualties than 15/11?

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

It was only 2-4 payments in total over 6 month, if they banned everyone for sending payments then there would be no paypal, but I do think it could well have been a linking issue, I would love to hear from someone who got the same ban as us BUT did not link the accounts in any shape or form

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

RobMele, do you mean someone that only lost one account?

Or someone that had no deliberate interaction between two or more accounts?

I lost two accounts at the same time and I'd never carried out an interaction between the two, other than I created them both using dongles, Entropay vcc, VoIP. Different banks, created on different days on different user accounts. Only 2 out of several accounts.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

I didn't send money between these limited accounts but I bought 3-6 times some cheap items from each other..

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

That's a link.

Maybe not disastrous, but a link nonetheless.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

how about any other link?

did you buy same item with these 2 accounts,

did you list same/similar items with same pictures

did these 2 accounts link to ANY OTHER of your accounts that got previously banned?

also I am curious, were you taking in large amounts of sales on that week/month

Thanks mate, its good we are sharing info, just like you I can say I used a 3g dongle, entroypay and the bank accounts were different and I believe all of them were E saver

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

This is a risk I would be unwilling to take under any circumstance.

I would assume this was my problem before any other problem.

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This got 10 of my accounts previously banned, but that is an obvious link - no point in discussion. I bought with 10 accounts from 4 new accounts to raise feedback

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Only going on your description, your own activity was enough to flag the accounts.

Transfers between accounts is always risky. It creates a traceable pattern.

As for entropay, I am loathe to point the finger there. At an outside chance, maybe the origin of the entropay card. Some years back we did have issues.

Just to clarify, you made these yourself?

:ranger:

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Not prepared to confirm this as yet.

Balance is changing as reports come in.

Sighs.

:typing:

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

RobMele, didn't buy anything similar, sold different items, each had 2 sales, medium amounts (£20-69), unique photos, unique descriptions (I give each of my accounts a character and write the descriptions 'in character').

I don't link back to any other account, I wouldn't even view an item I'd list on another account.

If I'm honest, I fear it was my own lazy, sleepy IP link. Either I didn't change dongle IP or I kept my WiFi on by accident alongside the dongle.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

How many people have had their accounts limited on either the 15th or the 29th had a entropay vcc added?

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

thing with this is:

if entropay was the sole cause, then the reports would be so numerous.

No account I made in the last 6 weeks in the UK has had issues.

entropay is the card I use.

:spy:

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Totally agree with GB here.

Entropay itself is not the issue.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Blueuk, I've read a lot of posters saying they used Entropay, but:
1) there aren't many UK alternatives (so most stealthers use it).
2) most users have Entropay accounts that survived as well as those that were lost.
3) PP still allows Entropay to be used to verify accounts.

I'm not saying 'it's NOT Entropay', I'm saying 'be careful of drawing conclusions from limited data'.

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

The question we should ask - is there anyone who got limited and DIDNT use entropay

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I am confident enough that this is true to forget Entropay as a cause for the Saturday Purges.

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Entropay confirms PayPal. Only a bank account can verify :thumb: Slightly different but important to not mix up the terminologies

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

Jamesy, you've made the opposite mistake to me.

It is a mistake, and you're quite right to point it out.

Bank verifies
Card confirms

Re: 5 pp accounts permanently limited
 

I don't think my account that got hit on the 29th(I only had two at that point) had an entropay card linked, it was a bought account with a 2 or 3 year mastercard attached, which entropay don't offer do they?

I think the mistake I made was allowing paypal to withdraw from the attached bank account to pay ebay fees, this was about 3/4 weeks ago.

Maybe paypal are caching flagged accounts due to errors such as the one I made and then limiting them all on certain days, such as the 15th and the 29th.

Who knows, I'm sure we'll find out more in due course.