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azuretbn 06-03-2017 03:56 AM

Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Since there is absolutely no way I could get money out of my stealth account, I have to rely on PayPal to Bitcoin exchangers. They offer +10-20% rates based on Preev/Coinbase BTC price.

The problem is, I don't know how I can send the money to them in a way that is not going to trigger PayPal's security system or whatever. The account is VCC verified, I bought it from one of the sellers here, and is pretty aged (about 9 months old now).

I've tried to search around the forum but most of the threads are about sending funds to an account for a one-time purpose, while I am looking for a long-term solution.

I have no bank account I can use. It's also a US PayPal, so withdrawals to VISA cards are not possible. Any help would be appreciated. :thumb:

nickopedia 06-03-2017 04:21 AM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Using a stealth account to fund BTC is going to be tough. Most exchangers will want some form of verification to do it. Maybe you can setup a few middle-man accounts to send the funds to, then from those to buy your BTC, or send to a friend/family member who the acct is linked to a bank, w/d the fund and buy your bitcoin from there.

Of course these options are complicated, and don't guarantee PP will not catch on eventually if they see nothing but personal payments to the same people over and over again.

azuretbn 06-03-2017 04:57 AM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nickopedia (Post 850581)
Using a stealth account to fund BTC is going to be tough. Most exchangers will want some form of verification to do it. Maybe you can setup a few middle-man accounts to send the funds to, then from those to buy your BTC, or send to a friend/family member who the acct is linked to a bank, w/d the fund and buy your bitcoin from there.

Of course these options are complicated, and don't guarantee PP will not catch on eventually if they see nothing but personal payments to the same people over and over again.

I know some people I can trust. I am a member of a forum in which a lot of people sell BTC, and I have good market reputation there. The norm is: whoever has the lower market reputation has to go first. And I have a lot (143 points) so yeah.

Also, yeah, I guess personal payments won't be an option then, so maybe someone else knows a better method :D

JamesNorth101 06-03-2017 06:43 AM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Really the best method is going to be a G&S payment from your PayPal to their PayPal

rsot 06-03-2017 07:52 AM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nickopedia (Post 850581)
Using a stealth account to fund BTC is going to be tough. Most exchangers will want some form of verification to do it. Maybe you can setup a few middle-man accounts to send the funds to, then from those to buy your BTC, or send to a friend/family member who the acct is linked to a bank, w/d the fund and buy your bitcoin from there.

Of course these options are complicated, and don't guarantee PP will not catch on eventually if they see nothing but personal payments to the same people over and over again.

Correct about the repeated action catching-on

azuretbn 06-03-2017 08:02 AM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 850590)
Really the best method is going to be a G&S payment from your PayPal to their PayPal

Well would it be better to put something in the notes?

azuretbn 06-03-2017 08:02 AM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 850604)
Correct about the repeated action catching-on

Even as goods & services?

phaz0rz 06-03-2017 08:16 AM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by azuretbn (Post 850613)
Even as goods & services?

Using Paypal invoicing would make the transaction look even less suspicious, because then you could have the seller itemize actual merchandise on the invoice. Discuss things with the seller beforehand so you know what you are purchasing. Then have the seller send you an invoice with something random like "52" LED TV", with the proper dollar value for the amount of BTC you are buying.

If the seller will work with you to complete the sale this way, this is for sure the safest way to go about it.

:welcome;

azuretbn 06-03-2017 08:28 AM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 850615)
Using Paypal invoicing would make the transaction look even less suspicious, because then you could have the seller itemize actual merchandise on the invoice. Discuss things with the seller beforehand so you know what you are purchasing. Then have the seller send you an invoice with something random like "52" LED TV", with the proper dollar value for the amount of BTC you are buying.

If the seller will work with you to complete the sale this way, this is for sure the safest way to go about it.

:welcome;

The seller's PayPal account is from the UK, so I don't think goods will be a good excuse, so I think software development/digital services would be a better alternative. Thanks a lot!

Brandon 06-03-2017 04:55 PM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by azuretbn (Post 850585)
I know some people I can trust. I am a member of a forum in which a lot of people sell BTC, and I have good market reputation there. The norm is: whoever has the lower market reputation has to go first. And I have a lot (143 points) so yeah.

Also, yeah, I guess personal payments won't be an option then, so maybe someone else knows a better method :D

What Forum are you talking about ? I'm interested in buying BTC too.

Breakthecycle2 06-03-2017 08:21 PM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
There are plenty of people on localbitcoins that will take paypal without any verification.

warrenpuffit 07-30-2017 11:07 PM

Re: Safest way to transfer funds to a BTC exchanger?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by azuretbn (Post 850578)
Since there is absolutely no way I could get money out of my stealth account, I have to rely on PayPal to Bitcoin exchangers. They offer +10-20% rates based on Preev/Coinbase BTC price.

The problem is, I don't know how I can send the money to them in a way that is not going to trigger PayPal's security system or whatever. The account is VCC verified, I bought it from one of the sellers here, and is pretty aged (about 9 months old now)

I've tried to search around the forum but most of the threads are about sending funds to an account for a one-time purpose, while I am looking for a long-term solution.

I have no bank account I can use. It's also a US PayPal, so withdrawals to VISA cards are not possible. Any help would be appreciated. :thumb:


i was confused about this also so im nust trying to help. my post history makes me look like a shill but not. anyway paxful.com is good and i like it better than localbitcoins, more mainstreet feel i guess.

depends on who is logged in but ive paid via paypal from paypal invoice (traded with a btc seller)
paypal friendd and family
i think the jighest rate right now is 0.86 btc on the dollar cor paypal yransfwr
paypal digital gift
- paypal digital gift cards will get you a lower rate by most (0.7 or lower on the dollar) but very convenient as no paypal account interaction needed

another user here once mentioned buying physical paper cash on ebay - 100 bill notes listed as collectors items. The rate there is avout 120 for a 100 note.

*excuse typos - will attempt edit latwr. Samsung S8+ = POS lol big surprise (not)


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