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| mrbitty | 08-01-2018 09:29 AM | Hardly any help Hey, I hope this isn't taken the wrong way but how is it that, aspkin a forum that was meant for assiting one another has turned into a compulsory payment hub? how is it that people hardly offer any help these days unless its for sale? the common response here now is either - I can do this for a fee or sorry this is my custom method. I really dont get it! Are we losing track of what these forum was meant to be? |
Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbitty
(Post 934525)
Hey, I hope this isn't taken the wrong way but how is it that, aspkin a forum that was meant for assiting one another has turned into a compulsory payment hub? how is it that people hardly offer any help these days unless its for sale? the common response here now is either - I can do this for a fee or sorry this is my custom method. I really dont get it! Are we losing track of what these forum was meant to be? | There is tons of help and insight offered - but spoonfeeding has to be kept at a minimum.
Time is money so yes....if some ppl ask for tons of help or services, there is cost involved the way I see it. |
| just_smile | 08-01-2018 09:36 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbitty
(Post 934525)
the common response here now is either - I can do this for a fee or sorry this is my custom method | I've never once seen this? What are you referring to?
If people are pm'ing you offering services after you post questions, you need to report them.
Peoples questions and threads are answered daily by people giving up there time to post replies and help each other. Some things can't be shared on the open forum. It's always been that way. |
| Ebayorbust | 08-01-2018 10:02 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbitty
(Post 934525)
Hey, I hope this isn't taken the wrong way but how is it that, aspkin a forum that was meant for assiting one another has turned into a compulsory payment hub? how is it that people hardly offer any help these days unless its for sale? the common response here now is either - I can do this for a fee or sorry this is my custom method. I really dont get it! Are we losing track of what these forum was meant to be? | With the greatest respect you are one member that comes on here and takes, takes & takes. Your last hundred or so posts are all questions asking for help, the vast majority of which got answered.
I can't recall ever once having seen you take the time to help someone else.
If you feel you aren't getting your money's worth from this forum, suggest you look elsewhere. |
Re: Hardly any help Yea, this one thinks he has all the sense....
He contacted me through PM offering to pay me to teach him how to build VPN's... I told him I'd do it through teamviewer if he found the VPS... and I gave him links he could follow to build the VPN himself...
Then for a week straight he kept messaging me on Skype sending me links to VPS to look at to help him find a VPS that would work...
It got to the point he wasted so much of my time I had to tell him... "Either pay me or kick rocks"...
There's plenty of guides out there to build VPN's. But to secure the server and make the VPN as undetectable as possible... That's a trade secret... |
| mrbitty | 08-01-2018 03:17 PM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by nate
(Post 934559)
Yea, this one thinks he has all the sense....
He contacted me through PM offering to pay me to teach him how to build VPN's... I told him I'd do it through teamviewer if he found the VPS... and I gave him links he could follow to build the VPN himself...
Then for a week straight he kept messaging me on Skype sending me links to VPS to look at to help him find a VPS that would work...
It got to the point he wasted so much of my time I had to tell him... "Either pay me or kick rocks"...
There's plenty of guides out there to build VPN's. But to secure the server and make the VPN as undetectable as possible... That's a trade secret... | You didn't teach me anything mate, you kept on throwing me off, I had to figure it out with the help of a freelancer on upwork, I am not sure why you are going all over my posts to comment, I didn't do you any wrong, not sure what this smear campaign is all about! |
| mrbitty | 08-01-2018 03:20 PM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 934532)
With the greatest respect you are one member that comes on here and takes, takes & takes. Your last hundred or so posts are all questions asking for help, the vast majority of which got answered.
I can't recall ever once having seen you take the time to help someone else.
If you feel you aren't getting your money's worth from this forum, suggest you look elsewhere. |
I am not as experienced as most of you here, so I ASK QUESTIONS! is that a problem now? isn't that the purpose of this forum, to help one another or am I in the wrong forum? |
| SaiJin | 08-01-2018 03:41 PM | Re: Hardly any help This forum is built to provide support for those who have the ebay stealth or amazon ghost. We of course help those who don't have either and we do everything that we can.
I checked your history and a lot of your answers are being replied to and with good replies.
1. I don't know what else you want, but posting a smear campaign of your own about those who have fed you won't earn you much of a friendship point to be honest.
(this thread to be exact)
2. If you are getting PM;s from random people offering services, you need to click on the report button because that's a HUGE no no in this forum. The only thing that is charged is in the market place and we are strict about it.
If you offered payment to someone else , that's on you.
And it seems you are complaining mainly because of your interaction with Nate, so don't bring that garbage to the forum and try to smear us.
SO, what can we do for you? Make a new thread about it and we'll reply as usual. |
Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 934573)
If you offered payment to someone else , that's on you.
And it seems you are complaining mainly because of your interaction with Nate, so don't bring that garbage to the forum and try to smear us. | I'm pretty sure what ever he's complaining about doesn't have anything to do with me... The last interaction we had was at least 3 months ago...
I was just calling B.S. to his complaint since I already know his MO. |
| BigCJ | 08-01-2018 04:21 PM | Re: Hardly any help You are on a free forum where people volunteer their time for the basic information to get you back onto your desired platform.
It is up to you to figure out what works for you with the bits and pieces that you get with the free info.
If you want to use a specific service that someone took the time to build and make sure it works, then you are going to pay for it. Nothing hard about that, right?
We are not paid to be here. We were once in the same boat that you are currently sinking in. :doh: |
Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbitty
(Post 934525)
Hey, I hope this isn't taken the wrong way but how is it that, aspkin a forum that was meant for assiting one another has turned into a compulsory payment hub? how is it that people hardly offer any help these days unless its for sale? the common response here now is either - I can do this for a fee or sorry this is my custom method. I really dont get it! Are we losing track of what these forum was meant to be? | In addition to what everyone else has said, let me remind you that nobody here gets a dime to help you. So I suggest you appreciate whatever help you get, even if it is little (or nothing for that matter).
With over 80k+ members of the forum, i'm sure others appreciate the content and support just fine.
P.S. I've just gone through and read your last 50 posts on this forum, and every single one seems to be ME, ME, ME! ... I'm sure there's more. How about you click on a few threads and answer some questions. Also, you don't need to be "experienced" to answer a lot of basic questions most users have, surely you can't be that incompetent?
Here's all your posts... https://www.aspkin.com/forums/search...4&pp=25&page=1 |
Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 934613)
. Also, you don't need to be "experienced" to answer a lot of basic questions most users have, surely you can't be that incompetent? | No Play - we are incompetent as per OP :( |
| mrbitty | 08-02-2018 03:17 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 934573)
This forum is built to provide support for those who have the ebay stealth or amazon ghost. We of course help those who don't have either and we do everything that we can.
I checked your history and a lot of your answers are being replied to and with good replies.
1. I don't know what else you want, but posting a smear campaign of your own about those who have fed you won't earn you much of a friendship point to be honest.
(this thread to be exact)
2. If you are getting PM;s from random people offering services, you need to click on the report button because that's a HUGE no no in this forum. The only thing that is charged is in the market place and we are strict about it.
If you offered payment to someone else , that's on you.
And it seems you are complaining mainly because of your interaction with Nate, so don't bring that garbage to the forum and try to smear us.
SO, what can we do for you? Make a new thread about it and we'll reply as usual. | I appreciate your response, very classy, I apologise to everyone if it seems like I was calling everyone out or smearing aspkin, I assure you that wasn't my intention PLUS I actually wasn't calling out Nate, I am assuming he has some kind of grudge against me not sure why, it all seems strange. |
| Ebayorbust | 08-02-2018 03:37 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbitty
(Post 934675)
I appreciate your response, very classy, I apologise to everyone if it seems like I was calling everyone out or smearing aspkin, I assure you that wasn't my intention PLUS I actually wasn't calling out Nate, I am assuming he has some kind of grudge against me not sure why, it all seems strange. | By making this thread in the first place you have no doubt reduced the number of folk that are going to help you in future. :clap::clap::clap: |
| mrbitty | 08-02-2018 08:28 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 934676)
By making this thread in the first place you have no doubt reduced the number of folk that are going to help you in future. :clap::clap::clap: | Its a public forum, we are all allowed to air our opinion, I did just that. |
| yankee | 08-02-2018 10:54 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbitty
(Post 934716)
Its a public forum, we are all allowed to air our opinion, I did just that. | You showed how much of an ungrateful parasite you are. You are a tick and an infections one at that. Worse than a tape worm. |
| Ebayorbust | 08-02-2018 11:36 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbitty
(Post 934716)
Its a public forum, we are all allowed to air our opinion, I did just that. | And that small list reduces once again. :d |
| SaiJin | 08-02-2018 12:00 PM | Re: Hardly any help I think he understands now and I don't see anymore reason to beat up anymore.
So let's just move on on a positive note and hope he grows from it. |
| dachilla | 08-02-2018 12:28 PM | Re: Hardly any help Some stuff you just gotta figure out by yourself. How hard can it be? There's enough hints in the forum. If you don't figure it out then either stop with your business or get commercial help. If every trick or method was posted openly here in the forum, it would be much harder to create stealth accounts, don't you think? I'm sure the enemy reads the forum too. And they learn fast. |
| sarah74 | 08-02-2018 02:35 PM | Re: Hardly any help TBH sometimes I wish there was "Paid" help offered here. When its not "Paid" i get the feeling nobody wants to really offer the real help.
Maybe Aspikin can consider putting a "Paid' help section.
I am All up for that |
| mrbitty | 08-04-2018 02:52 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah74
(Post 934793)
TBH sometimes I wish there was "Paid" help offered here. When its not "Paid" i get the feeling nobody wants to really offer the real help.
Maybe Aspikin can consider putting a "Paid' help section.
I am All up for that | This here is what I am talking about. |
| mrbitty | 08-04-2018 02:57 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 934747)
You showed how much of an ungrateful parasite you are. You are a tick and an infections one at that. Worse than a tape worm. | Name calling? So let me understand correctly, are you all saying it would have been better to keep shut while this forum loses its purpose? I raised a valid issue and all you can do is call me names? its shows absolutely no class and its very distasteful from some of you, some like ebayorbust are even threatening to have me boycotted or isolated, all because I raised a valid opinion, the reason I raised this point was because I have seen many forums start off the right way only to end up going down the path of "no pay, no information" some of you here seem desperate to take Aspkin down that path, I took notice of this and all of a sudden, I am the bad guy here? |
| GreenBean | 08-04-2018 03:14 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah74
(Post 934793)
TBH sometimes I wish there was "Paid" help offered here. When its not "Paid" i get the feeling nobody wants to really offer the real help.
Maybe Aspikin can consider putting a "Paid' help section.
I am All up for that | We have moved away from that. Caused far too many issues.
There is a fine line to define how much to say or not say.
Sometimes both sides feel totally frustrated. But that is the very nature of inter-relating.
One point we must consider is frequent changes with ebay/paypal experiences will differ. A person doing stealth must be more aware of this very stealth game we are forced to play.
:peace: |
| just_smile | 08-04-2018 03:33 AM | Re: Hardly any help If you genuinely feel this way, maybe you should become part of the solution, start answering peoples questions and become an active part of the forum.
At the moment you just ask your questions and take, take, take. That's why you have received such negative replies. |
| Ebayorbust | 08-04-2018 05:31 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbitty
(Post 935085)
Name calling? So let me understand correctly, are you all saying it would have been better to keep shut while this forum loses its purpose? I raised a valid issue and all you can do is call me names? its shows absolutely no class and its very distasteful from some of you, some like ebayorbust are even threatening to have me boycotted or isolated, all because I raised a valid opinion, the reason I raised this point was because I have seen many forums start off the right way only to end up going down the path of "no pay, no information" some of you here seem desperate to take Aspkin down that path, I took notice of this and all of a sudden, I am the bad guy here? | I personally won't be helping you again as a result of the comments you've made and attitude on this thread.
You've probably been the most assisted member that I have seen on this forum. Over two hundred posts requesting / demanding help, the vast majority of which were responded to. And now, just because your latest issue doesn't have a long list of people tripping over themselves to help you, you throw up this thread claiming people don't offer help unless they are paid.
I couldn't care less what others do but I very much doubt your comments are going to endear yourself to many. |
| mrbitty | 08-04-2018 08:19 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 935108)
I personally won't be helping you again as a result of the comments you've made and attitude on this thread.
You've probably been the most assisted member that I have seen on this forum. Over two hundred posts requesting / demanding help, the vast majority of which were responded to. And now, just because your latest issue doesn't have a long list of people tripping over themselves to help you, you throw up this thread claiming people don't offer help unless they are paid.
I couldn't care less what others do but I very much doubt your comments are going to endear yourself to many. | The purpose of this forum is to help one another, I try to help IF I can but like I said I don't have much experience like some of you, I wouldn't apologize for asking questions as that is what this forum is here for, to ask questions and help each other. |
| JamesNorth101 | 08-04-2018 08:23 AM | Re: Hardly any help You have been here for over a year. If you still feel that you cannot offer help to other people rereading the stealth guide maybe a good idea
You do just ask a lot of questions and never really give back and that is fine if you don’t want to help other people, but you cannot expect help at the drop of a hat all the time |
| yankee | 08-04-2018 08:25 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbitty
(Post 935124)
The purpose of this forum is to help one another, I try to help IF I can but like I said I don't have much experience like some of you, I wouldn't apologize for asking questions as that is what this forum is here for, to ask questions and help each other. | So again, you come here, ask questions over and over, get answers over and over and then bitch and moan that no help. Yea, you are a parasite. You are the type of person that makes people like myself NOT want to help ungrateful parasites. You take and take and take and take then complain it isnt hardly enough. That is just down right pathetic. |
| Ebayorbust | 08-04-2018 08:32 AM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
The purpose of this forum is to help one another, I try to help IF I can but like I said I don't have much experience like some of you,
| No, you haven't.....
You've made a half-hearted attempt in the last 12 hours because you've been called out for being such a demanding & ungrateful so and so.
Nobody is actually too bothered about the fact you ask so many questions and give nothing in return. It's more down the bloody ungrateful attitude as per your first post on this thread. |
Re: Hardly any help Or worse... PMing people offering to pay for services when your only intention is to see how much free info you can trick them out of...
That stunt takes the cake...:clap: |
| yankee | 08-04-2018 09:25 AM | Re: Hardly any help I want to point out that this is a private forum owned by one individual as a business promotion. Its number one purpose is to make a profit. Its secondary purpose is to create a community of like minded individuals to support each other. It is NOT intended to spoon feed or teach individuals. That is what the marketplace is for. |
Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 935141)
I want to point out that this is a private forum owned by one individual as a business promotion. Its number one purpose is to make a profit. Its secondary purpose is to create a community of like minded individuals to support each other. It is NOT intended to spoon feed or teach individuals. That is what the marketplace is for. | Please don't send them our way...
I can just imagine another thread being opened up saying "I paid for a service on this forum, I asked the seller 200+ questions, and I felt after a year of asking, the answers just weren't enough". :smash: |
| sarah74 | 08-05-2018 12:07 PM | Re: Hardly any help Thanks for the response. Would Aspkin consider a chatroom? just asking.. Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 935086)
We have moved away from that. Caused far too many issues.
There is a fine line to define how much to say or not say.
Sometimes both sides feel totally frustrated. But that is the very nature of inter-relating.
One point we must consider is frequent changes with ebay/paypal experiences will differ. A person doing stealth must be more aware of this very stealth game we are forced to play.
:peace: | |
| yankee | 08-05-2018 12:20 PM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah74
(Post 935299)
Thanks for the response. Would Aspkin consider a chatroom? just asking.. | we have chat...you just have to be a paid subscribed member. Very little stealth talk though. Threads are always better. |
| JamesNorth101 | 08-05-2018 12:27 PM | Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah74
(Post 935299)
Thanks for the response. Would Aspkin consider a chatroom? just asking.. | We have one :)
Pretty busy but most talk RE stealth happens on threads |
Re: Hardly any help Quote:
Originally Posted by sarah74
(Post 935299)
Thanks for the response. Would Aspkin consider a chatroom? just asking.. | Chatroom is busy with some stealth talk but a lot of small talk - one of the main ppl in the chatroom doesn't post much at all |
| sarah74 | 08-06-2018 04:21 AM | Re: Hardly any help Thanks: yankee,jamesnorth and rsot for your response :)
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