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| deutsche_bahn | 11-15-2018 11:46 AM | Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Hello,
through a miracle i found this forum and I'm really glad about it.
I really urgent need help with my bussines here in germany.
I want to sell anonymously on ebay, the thing is it will be around 5-50k € turnaroudn every day, what kind of accounts i do need to buy?
Is it possible to use UK or US accounts from here to sell in germany?
Please help :))) |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-15-2018 11:53 AM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts You would just get the account limited with values of that amount right off the bat |
Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-15-2018 11:57 AM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 957866)
You would just get the account limited with values of that amount right off the bat | So my thought is to split it in 10 accounts, 5k should be no problem for 1 business account, or am I wrong? |
| just_smile | 11-15-2018 11:59 AM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by deutsche_bahn
(Post 957869)
So my thought is to split it in 10 accounts, 5k should be no problem for 1 business account, or am I wrong? | 5k per month maybe....
You need a very established account to do 5-50k a day! |
Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts You'll need a lot of accounts to sell that kind of volume from the outset, better have the docs ready for all of them too |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-15-2018 12:06 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by just_smile
(Post 957871)
5k per month maybe....
You need a very established account to do 5-50k a day! |
So, what do you think is the best way?
I think its better to have one ebay account with 100 ratings then 100 with 1 rating..
Is it possible to use multiple paypal for one ebay, or will ebay/paypal track it? |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-15-2018 12:06 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by sax4
(Post 957872)
You'll need a lot of accounts to sell that kind of volume from the outset, better have the docs ready for all of them too |
How you would do that? |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-15-2018 12:19 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by deutsche_bahn
(Post 957874)
So, what do you think is the best way?
I think its better to have one ebay account with 100 ratings then 100 with 1 rating..
Is it possible to use multiple paypal for one ebay, or will ebay/paypal track it? | Pretty extreme either or
10 with 10 on each would be best |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-15-2018 12:57 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 957877)
Pretty extreme either or
10 with 10 on each would be best |
Maybe i will just make 2,5k in some days per account.
Because my goods are going away anyway.
Can you maybe tell me someone the conditions of this guy? https://www.aspkin.com/forums/accoun...ck-easily.html |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-15-2018 01:10 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Try 10% of that at first
Need to go way way slower |
| SaiJin | 11-15-2018 01:15 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Ok, that's a huge goal.
1. Make sure you completely understand ebay stealth
2. Once you do, operate 30+ accounts. This is what I did.
3. Because of the sheer amount of accounts, resetting a modem for new IP is not efficient, so I recommend IPburger VPN for speed and reliability.
4. Now once all these are taken care of, start slow no matter what. You can't bring in thousands on new account just like that.
But if you can bring in some cash x 30 accounts, that's still a llot of money.
5. So build slow with many many accounts. |
| nickopedia | 11-15-2018 02:34 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Ummm, this is gonna have to be split up a bit with the numbers you are talking about. Yes, there are some PayPal's that can take in 50k in a day, but they are usually large companies with lots of history. Right off the bad you ain't even going to get close to that.
BTW, there is no such thing as being truly "anonymous on eBay". You cash flow is always going to be your weakest link.
Do you have a plan to withdrawal your earnings from PayPal? Bank/Card? |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-15-2018 03:16 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 957880)
Try 10% of that at first
Need to go way way slower |
I will make now 30 account and for 10 days on every account all 2 days 200€
so 30k should be possible into 10 days after that i will double the amount and make 30 Paypals more, how about that? |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-15-2018 03:17 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 957884)
Ok, that's a huge goal.
1. Make sure you completely understand ebay stealth
2. Once you do, operate 30+ accounts. This is what I did.
3. Because of the sheer amount of accounts, resetting a modem for new IP is not efficient, so I recommend IPburger VPN for speed and reliability.
4. Now once all these are taken care of, start slow no matter what. You can't bring in thousands on new account just like that.
But if you can bring in some cash x 30 accounts, that's still a llot of money.
5. So build slow with many many accounts. |
Will do it that way, bought the guide but nothing new that i dont knew :D
... almost |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-15-2018 03:18 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by nickopedia
(Post 957905)
Ummm, this is gonna have to be split up a bit with the numbers you are talking about. Yes, there are some PayPal's that can take in 50k in a day, but they are usually large companies with lots of history. Right off the bad you ain't even going to get close to that.
BTW, there is no such thing as being truly "anonymous on eBay". You cash flow is always going to be your weakest link.
Do you have a plan to withdrawal your earnings from PayPal? Bank/Card? | https://www.aspkin.com/forums/accoun...ck-easily.html
Will look to cash with this guy, but otherwise im not sure maybe casino gambling against myself and lose?
After that withdrawl to my bank account. |
| nickopedia | 11-15-2018 03:23 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Cashout w/o a bank is risky, but you already are aware it's going to involve fees. PP>BTC will lose 15-20%, and the Casino gig not too sure, but the house is going to want a cut too, right?
You can also do some "shopping" off your other stealths, buying from yourself and all that jazz. Again, comes with some risks and fees. |
| ilcarletto | 11-16-2018 02:18 AM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Sir, is not only the money turnaround of your accounts that matters... if the items you are selling are "risky" you will need a lot more accounts even if established.
That is a non negligiable factor. |
Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
I want to sell anonymously on ebay, the thing is it will be around 5-50k € turnaroudn every day, what kind of accounts i do need to buy?
| The amount you're going for isn't the only issue.
Stealth doesn't = anonymity. |
Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth OP :thumb:
You have been given a LOT of good advice for a newcomer - you will need to spread sales and go SLOW over the initial few months. Don't expect to go hardcore without problems...
"Mitglieder hier sprechen Deutsch" |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-16-2018 05:12 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by nickopedia
(Post 957915)
Cashout w/o a bank is risky, but you already are aware it's going to involve fees. PP>BTC will lose 15-20%, and the Casino gig not too sure, but the house is going to want a cut too, right?
You can also do some "shopping" off your other stealths, buying from yourself and all that jazz. Again, comes with some risks and fees. |
If you can provide me somone for 15% i can give you 5%, no problem..
But i dont know where to exchange, dont get reply from the guy.. |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-16-2018 05:14 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by ilcarletto
(Post 957989)
Sir, is not only the money turnaround of your accounts that matters... if the items you are selling are "risky" you will need a lot more accounts even if established.
That is a non negligiable factor. |
what "risky" means i sell train voucher, somtimes one is invalid but 99% are valid and make no problem, customer know that they have to use it ASAP.
I transfered now about 5k in 3 day (1 day break) to the paypal, first withdrawls are on hold but i think they will release it, because everyone is happy with his buy :) |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-16-2018 05:15 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 957990)
The amount you're going for isn't the only issue.
Stealth doesn't = anonymity. |
About the anonymity i dont have to worry :) |
| deutsche_bahn | 11-16-2018 05:19 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 957992)
Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth OP :thumb:
You have been given a LOT of good advice for a newcomer - you will need to spread sales and go SLOW over the initial few months. Don't expect to go hardcore without problems...
"Mitglieder hier sprechen Deutsch" | Thanks!
Yes i know to appreciate it :)
But spreading sales are not good for the business, trust is everything here in Germany...
"Welche Mitglieder denn?!" |
| mathewsassn | 11-16-2018 09:19 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts first,it is no problem that receiving big money once you can find stable paypal accs.They cannt be new or aged but without good history.
My own paypal acc now receive 8-10k dollars daily without any problem. |
| nickopedia | 11-17-2018 07:33 AM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts History is the MOST important factor. That's what PayPal looks at when making most security decisions.
As the above poster states, the accounts that have previously received bigger amounts are very likely not to have any problems receiving/sending going forward. I have received multiple 10k transactions on my PP's without any issues.
A stable PP with long history can take a surprisingly amount of abuse before getting limited. |
| mathewsassn | 11-17-2018 05:50 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by nickopedia
(Post 958264)
History is the MOST important factor. That's what PayPal looks at when making most security decisions.
As the above poster states, the accounts that have previously received bigger amounts are very likely not to have any problems receiving/sending going forward. I have received multiple 10k transactions on my PP's without any issues.
A stable PP with long history can take a surprisingly amount of abuse before getting limited. | Agree.but the question is not easy to buy this kind of paypal when need |
| nickopedia | 11-17-2018 10:59 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by mathewsassn
(Post 958363)
Agree.but the question is not easy to buy this kind of paypal when need | True that. The trick is to create history, and do it over a period of time. On my stealths I do this by spending money on eBay and doing the once in awhile F&F payment for smaller amounts. I have a fair number of accounts, so this can be safely done. The trick is to do this over a period of several months before even trying to swing larger sums through. |
| fabrizio81 | 11-18-2018 01:47 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts 1) you need aged paypal account (paypal account established in 2010-2014 year will be perfect) don't buy account created in 2017-2018 (it's bull**** for large amounts). 2) account must have big history of sales. 3) account must be business (in business settings put max monthly limit) 4) accounts must be verified by bank 5) you must have access to phone number, phone number must be visible on security check. 6) buy dedicated server and always use one dedicated IP for this account. |
| Bangduck | 11-21-2018 09:29 AM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Go slow, that is way too much volume for a new account. I suggest you separating that volume into many accounts. Don’t put all eggs in one basket. |
| homeless | 11-22-2018 11:15 AM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts What kind of products are you selling to get so much money per day? Trafficking women for Russians or Arabs? I think you are day dreaming! You have no business on Ebay yet you are assuming you can generate this much profit per day!
I mean seriously! if I have a product which I know is in high demand and can make me thousands per days I'll just create my own website and no need for ebay. |
| nickopedia | 11-22-2018 11:50 AM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts PayPal surely scrutinize large transactions, just as any legitimate money transmitter would for compliance reasons. Remember, it's not just PayPal's "policy" that dictates this, but U.S. State and Federal laws and Regulations.
PayPal is mostly concerned about the SOURCE of funds to make sure they are legitimate, and even then to comply with KYC (Know-Your-Customer), AML (Anti-Money-Laundering), FinCEN rules, PATRIOT Act, etc., etc...
This would apply to a USA PayPal regardless of where in the world, or who is using it.
The amount of checking and verification they will do on your account/identity will depend on the amount of money you have moving in and out of PP.
So long as what you are selling is legitimate and the funds are clean, and you have not provided any foo-foo documents in regard to taxes, you may be fine. |
Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Can in OP's case, a business PP could be more useful than a regular one? |
| Aguero | 11-22-2018 05:47 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts At the beginning, I don't think so. |
| ifox007 | 11-24-2018 03:58 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts I think you have to shut the F@@K up. That is the best option for you. |
| Aguero | 11-24-2018 05:12 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Why and why are you nervous ? |
| big tymer | 11-24-2018 05:33 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by nickopedia
(Post 958264)
I have received multiple 10k transactions on my PP's without any issues.
A stable PP with long history can take a surprisingly amount of abuse before getting limited. | You are brave. For amounts over $2k i prefer the customer do a TT to my bank. Saves me paypal fees and i feel more secure as it cuts out one step and saves time. I do several $1k plus transactions a month.
I agree a stable PP with good history can take some cases and chargebacks against it even if bunched together in a short time period. |
| big tymer | 11-24-2018 05:39 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by nickopedia
(Post 959508)
PayPal surely scrutinize large transactions, just as any legitimate money transmitter would for compliance reasons. Remember, it's not just PayPal's "policy" that dictates this, but U.S. State and Federal laws and Regulations.
PayPal is mostly concerned about the SOURCE of funds to make sure they are legitimate, and even then to comply with KYC (Know-Your-Customer), AML (Anti-Money-Laundering), FinCEN rules, PATRIOT Act, etc., etc...
This would apply to a USA PayPal regardless of where in the world, or who is using it.
The amount of checking and verification they will do on your account/identity will depend on the amount of money you have moving in and out of PP.
So long as what you are selling is legitimate and the funds are clean, and you have not provided any foo-foo documents in regard to taxes, you may be fine. | I agree. Paypal is always keeping an eye on accounts to make sure you comply with KYC (Know-Your-Customer), AML (Anti-Money-Laundering), FinCEN rules, PATRIOT Act, etc., etc...
Even though they are not a bank, they still need to comply.
But there always seems to be horror stories where everything is legit and an account runs into problems. |
| nickopedia | 11-24-2018 05:42 PM | Re: Need Paypal for HUGE amounts Quote:
Originally Posted by big tymer
(Post 959927)
You are brave. For amounts over $2k i prefer the customer do a TT to my bank. Saves me paypal fees and i feel more secure as it cuts out one step and saves time. I do several $1k plus transactions a month.
I agree a stable PP with good history can take some cases and chargebacks against it even if bunched together in a short time period. | Keep in mind that the account I am talking about is in my real details, and is from 1999. It's also seen large transactions over the years, so it's go a very long history. I use it fairly regularly, and almost never have any disputes or issues.
My point is if the account is like this with a very long history and had previous large transfers on it, you can be pretty confident you can send a $10k payment without trouble, which I think is the per transaction maximum. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:06 PM. | |
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