New PP Stuck On Limits!!!

[hotadvice]

maybe its different in the states but if its multiple lets say $800 transactions...like 20, so about 16000 dollars....all f&f and you trying to open up multiple chargebacks, you getting declined on the spot

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

Receiving few F&F transactions didn’t trigger the limits however when a customer sent with Goods & Services I believe that payment triggered the limits as I received an automated email on the same time.

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I dont think one particular Good and Services email triggered the limits,you open a new account and received too many F & F payments,it is just a matter of time Paypal will step in.
Are these 16 F & F payments of different amount and coming from all over the world or country?
Dont forget Paypal also have records on these senders.

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

I asked one of the customers to see if they can file a dispute and he said it’s not letting them because they used F&F option and there is no coverage for it.

And it says to contact the recipient to him.

FF does not allow to open disputes on paypal , it is possible to make chargeback through bank but your customers won't be doing it because they would need to claim as unauthorized

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by hotadvice

maybe its different in the states but if its multiple lets say $800 transactions...like 20, so about 16000 dollars....all f&f and you trying to open up multiple chargebacks, you getting declined on the spot

why should it be 20? it is only about one transaction , nothing is gonna be declined on the spot , the bank will file for chargeback on your behalf and if it is filed as unauthorized you will win with a very high probability if there was no online verification of payment. bank/mastercard/visa - they all do not know anything about F/F and not F/F , this type of payment is just internal PP rules

[hotadvice]

hes said most of them were F&F payments and an accidental goods and services, and his question was referring to all the payments so it wont just be one payment...

if you cant file it via paypal, you are most likely not going to be able to file it as a chargeback...first thing the bank will ask you, have you filed it via paypal? as the payments were initiated via their site, even though done tru cc.

They will then ask for proof of transactions, transcripts between you and paypal to show youve tried resolving it via them and they'll find out it was f&f payments at this point and tell you bye

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by agent006140

I dont think one particular Good and Services email triggered the limits,you open a new account and received too many F & F payments,it is just a matter of time Paypal will step in.
Are these 16 F & F payments of different amount and coming from all over the world or country?
Dont forget Paypal also have records on these senders.

I think goods and services did trigger the limits on the account because as soon as customer sent that payment I got a automated email from pp saying we need to review your account, there’s about 4 F&F transactions so sending by F&F that can’t be it, Just uk transactions.

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

FF does not allow to open disputes on paypal , it is possible to make chargeback through bank but your customers won't be doing it because they would need to claim as unauthorized

Where do they find the unauthorised option? it’s not in their PayPal.

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by hotadvice

hes said most of them were F&F payments and an accidental goods and services, and his question was referring to all the payments so it wont just be one payment...

if you cant file it via paypal, you are most likely not going to be able to file it as a chargeback...first thing the bank will ask you, have you filed it via paypal? as the payments were initiated via their site, even though done tru cc.

They will then ask for proof of transactions, transcripts between you and paypal to show youve tried resolving it via them and they'll find out it was f&f payments at this point and tell you bye

did you read what I wrote before? unauthorized

additionally banks do not investigate anything , they will not be asking for any deep transaction details and will not study anything , they have a set of standard questions

did you make the payment? yes or no

if yes , did you receive the goods? yes or no

if yes , chargeback will fail with a high probability

if no they will ask the merchant , not the buyer , to provide proof

if no as answer to the first question chargeback can be considered as successful as paypal can not provide any proof it was the actual person paying but they will certainly close the paypal account

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

Where do they find the unauthorised option? it’s not in their PayPal.

chargeback is not done on paypal , it is done with the bank that issued the card , almost any transaction can be claimed back this way if it goes as unauthorized and if there was no confirmation by SMS/App during the payment

[agent006140]

Have you called Paypal ?
if all your senders file UA with their cc issuer,there will be a chargeback fee of $20 or more,and Paypal could end up paying for it

[Rodney123]

Originally Posted by agent006140

Have you called Paypal ?
if all your senders file UA with their cc issuer,there will be a chargeback fee of $20 or more,and Paypal could end up paying for it

No I haven’t called PayPal yet.

How do they open a unauthorised case? I told one customer try to open a unauthorised case and he said there was no section of opening a case.

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

Hello all hope you’re doing well, I got a question I recently made a new pp stealth account and all the payments were F&F except one and however when I received the unexpected goods & services payment that transaction seems to trigger the limits on the account and now pp asking for valid ID and shipping address which I haven’t got on me.

And now for some reason pp not letting me refund payments back to people’s pp account has anyone found a way to refund payments back to people when pp stuck on limitations?

You and other people need to stop abusing the F&F.....
Seriously.... it's just going to ruin it for most of us.

Besides, you use their services so they should get their fees.

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

No I haven’t called PayPal yet.

How do they open a unauthorised case? I told one customer try to open a unauthorised case and he said there was no section of opening a case.

someone just told you,they have to go to their cc issuer,if they are using Paypal fund,there is no refund,if bank fund,go see the bank?
call paypal

[Rodney123]

I give up im not bothered it’s to much work, im not sure if they used cc or pp balance.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

I give up im not bothered it’s to much work, im not sure if they used cc or pp balance.

on to the next endeavour then

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by Rodney123

I give up im not bothered it’s to much work, im not sure if they used cc or pp balance.

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